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I prescribe medications. You do, too. It’s part of what we do.

What I don’t do is prescribe meds for other docs, or expect them to prescribe mine.

Seems reasonable, right? Yet, I’ve seen several recent posts on physician gripe boards talking about doctors dodging out on this in a few ways. Some examples follow:

• Specialists who diagnose a patient with epilepsy, and send a note back to the internists suggesting they start Tegretol.

• Internists who want the patient to take a drug for neuropathy, and give them a note to take to the specialist asking them to start Lyrica.

• Specialists who want the internist to manage another field entirely, such as a dermatologist telling the internist what to prescribe for a patient’s diabetes.

Personally, I wouldn’t expect any internist to continue a medication that I started prescribing. If they referred the patient to me, I assume they want me to handle it. If they’d prefer the patient return to them for continuing care of the condition, that’s fine, but I generally figure it’s now my issue.

Dr. Allan M. Block

On the flip side, it always bugs me when someone who’s not in my field tells a patient what they think I should prescribe. Sometimes I agree with the choice, but to me it undermines my relationship with the patient. If you want me to handle the case, then don’t give the patient expectations of what should be used. Otherwise, if I decide to try something else, Mr. Smith feels like he’s been short-changed and may call the internist to complain.

I wouldn’t dream of handing a patient a card that says, “Needs to be started on (Actos/Coreg/amiodarone/whatever),” so am always surprised when they bring a note saying, “Please start Dilantin, I think he has seizures.”

This isn’t, I admit, a common occurrence. In my little world, I can count on one hand the number of times it happens per year, almost always from a physician whom I haven’t previously worked with. My referral sources (hopefully) trust me to handle neurology, and I feel the same way about them to handle other issues.

But it must be happening to others, or it wouldn’t be showing up on Sermo and other sites. I have to wonder about the background mindset. Is it just laziness on the part of other doctors? A reluctance to prescribe, knowing that then you’ll be the one stuck with the prior authorization and refill requests? A paternalistic approach to medicine, where you feel you’re right, and therefore another doc should unquestioningly follow your instructions (if you know what’s best, why refer at all?).

More disturbingly, are a few docs seeing patients as someone else’s problem? I really hope not. I’d like to think that the affront, when present, is simply from a lack of practice experience and/or social skills, and will fade with time. Things that irritate other physicians only end up hurting the patient, which isn’t what we’re here for.

Dr. Block has a solo neurology practice in Scottsdale, Ariz.

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I prescribe medications. You do, too. It’s part of what we do.

What I don’t do is prescribe meds for other docs, or expect them to prescribe mine.

Seems reasonable, right? Yet, I’ve seen several recent posts on physician gripe boards talking about doctors dodging out on this in a few ways. Some examples follow:

• Specialists who diagnose a patient with epilepsy, and send a note back to the internists suggesting they start Tegretol.

• Internists who want the patient to take a drug for neuropathy, and give them a note to take to the specialist asking them to start Lyrica.

• Specialists who want the internist to manage another field entirely, such as a dermatologist telling the internist what to prescribe for a patient’s diabetes.

Personally, I wouldn’t expect any internist to continue a medication that I started prescribing. If they referred the patient to me, I assume they want me to handle it. If they’d prefer the patient return to them for continuing care of the condition, that’s fine, but I generally figure it’s now my issue.

Dr. Allan M. Block

On the flip side, it always bugs me when someone who’s not in my field tells a patient what they think I should prescribe. Sometimes I agree with the choice, but to me it undermines my relationship with the patient. If you want me to handle the case, then don’t give the patient expectations of what should be used. Otherwise, if I decide to try something else, Mr. Smith feels like he’s been short-changed and may call the internist to complain.

I wouldn’t dream of handing a patient a card that says, “Needs to be started on (Actos/Coreg/amiodarone/whatever),” so am always surprised when they bring a note saying, “Please start Dilantin, I think he has seizures.”

This isn’t, I admit, a common occurrence. In my little world, I can count on one hand the number of times it happens per year, almost always from a physician whom I haven’t previously worked with. My referral sources (hopefully) trust me to handle neurology, and I feel the same way about them to handle other issues.

But it must be happening to others, or it wouldn’t be showing up on Sermo and other sites. I have to wonder about the background mindset. Is it just laziness on the part of other doctors? A reluctance to prescribe, knowing that then you’ll be the one stuck with the prior authorization and refill requests? A paternalistic approach to medicine, where you feel you’re right, and therefore another doc should unquestioningly follow your instructions (if you know what’s best, why refer at all?).

More disturbingly, are a few docs seeing patients as someone else’s problem? I really hope not. I’d like to think that the affront, when present, is simply from a lack of practice experience and/or social skills, and will fade with time. Things that irritate other physicians only end up hurting the patient, which isn’t what we’re here for.

Dr. Block has a solo neurology practice in Scottsdale, Ariz.

I prescribe medications. You do, too. It’s part of what we do.

What I don’t do is prescribe meds for other docs, or expect them to prescribe mine.

Seems reasonable, right? Yet, I’ve seen several recent posts on physician gripe boards talking about doctors dodging out on this in a few ways. Some examples follow:

• Specialists who diagnose a patient with epilepsy, and send a note back to the internists suggesting they start Tegretol.

• Internists who want the patient to take a drug for neuropathy, and give them a note to take to the specialist asking them to start Lyrica.

• Specialists who want the internist to manage another field entirely, such as a dermatologist telling the internist what to prescribe for a patient’s diabetes.

Personally, I wouldn’t expect any internist to continue a medication that I started prescribing. If they referred the patient to me, I assume they want me to handle it. If they’d prefer the patient return to them for continuing care of the condition, that’s fine, but I generally figure it’s now my issue.

Dr. Allan M. Block

On the flip side, it always bugs me when someone who’s not in my field tells a patient what they think I should prescribe. Sometimes I agree with the choice, but to me it undermines my relationship with the patient. If you want me to handle the case, then don’t give the patient expectations of what should be used. Otherwise, if I decide to try something else, Mr. Smith feels like he’s been short-changed and may call the internist to complain.

I wouldn’t dream of handing a patient a card that says, “Needs to be started on (Actos/Coreg/amiodarone/whatever),” so am always surprised when they bring a note saying, “Please start Dilantin, I think he has seizures.”

This isn’t, I admit, a common occurrence. In my little world, I can count on one hand the number of times it happens per year, almost always from a physician whom I haven’t previously worked with. My referral sources (hopefully) trust me to handle neurology, and I feel the same way about them to handle other issues.

But it must be happening to others, or it wouldn’t be showing up on Sermo and other sites. I have to wonder about the background mindset. Is it just laziness on the part of other doctors? A reluctance to prescribe, knowing that then you’ll be the one stuck with the prior authorization and refill requests? A paternalistic approach to medicine, where you feel you’re right, and therefore another doc should unquestioningly follow your instructions (if you know what’s best, why refer at all?).

More disturbingly, are a few docs seeing patients as someone else’s problem? I really hope not. I’d like to think that the affront, when present, is simply from a lack of practice experience and/or social skills, and will fade with time. Things that irritate other physicians only end up hurting the patient, which isn’t what we’re here for.

Dr. Block has a solo neurology practice in Scottsdale, Ariz.

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