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In “10 billing & coding tips to boost your reimbursement” (November 2008), the codes for the flu and pneumococcal vaccines and a preventive medicine visit were incorrect. The correct codes are:

 

  • 99397 (preventive medicine, established patient age ≥65)
  • 90658 (flu vaccine, ≥3 years dosage)
  • 90732 (pneumococcal vaccine, adult dosage).

As a further clarification, the article should have noted that the preventive medicine code would be used only if the patient received a physical examination.

Please do a follow-up to your article on billing and coding—specifically, on 99215. I realize many physicians are trying to work up from 99213 to 99214. But we have a mature practice with many complex patients and need help working up to 99215.

Here’s an example: A patient comes in with an asthmatic exacerbation due to sinusitis, and it’s likely a level 4. But the original purpose of the visit was a lipid panel review and follow-up for abnormal liver enzymes—another level 4. The patient also wants to discuss his colonoscopy report, which shows the presence of polyps.

Yes, I know I can make such patients schedule 3 separate appointments. But they’ll get mad, their boss will fire them, and it’s inefficient besides. I also know I can spend nearly 40 minutes with them and code for “counseling.” But suppose I can treat the asthma and infection in 6 minutes, discuss and alter the lipid Rx in 4 minutes, and review the colonoscopy results in 2. Now I have a 12-minute visit that I’m stuck billing at the rate of a 99214, which is “typically 25 minutes.”

I know I’m supposed to feel guilty, but I’m not going to do all that “free” work just because I can do it quickly and efficiently. So how do I go from 99214 to 99215 for such complex cases? I’m not going to call other physicians, chat for 40 minutes, or order unneeded tests just so I can “code up,” but I want to be paid for more than the asthma exacerbation because I’m doing more than that.

Andrew Johnstone, MD, Indianapolis

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Correction

In “10 billing & coding tips to boost your reimbursement” (November 2008), the codes for the flu and pneumococcal vaccines and a preventive medicine visit were incorrect. The correct codes are:

 

  • 99397 (preventive medicine, established patient age ≥65)
  • 90658 (flu vaccine, ≥3 years dosage)
  • 90732 (pneumococcal vaccine, adult dosage).

As a further clarification, the article should have noted that the preventive medicine code would be used only if the patient received a physical examination.

Please do a follow-up to your article on billing and coding—specifically, on 99215. I realize many physicians are trying to work up from 99213 to 99214. But we have a mature practice with many complex patients and need help working up to 99215.

Here’s an example: A patient comes in with an asthmatic exacerbation due to sinusitis, and it’s likely a level 4. But the original purpose of the visit was a lipid panel review and follow-up for abnormal liver enzymes—another level 4. The patient also wants to discuss his colonoscopy report, which shows the presence of polyps.

Yes, I know I can make such patients schedule 3 separate appointments. But they’ll get mad, their boss will fire them, and it’s inefficient besides. I also know I can spend nearly 40 minutes with them and code for “counseling.” But suppose I can treat the asthma and infection in 6 minutes, discuss and alter the lipid Rx in 4 minutes, and review the colonoscopy results in 2. Now I have a 12-minute visit that I’m stuck billing at the rate of a 99214, which is “typically 25 minutes.”

I know I’m supposed to feel guilty, but I’m not going to do all that “free” work just because I can do it quickly and efficiently. So how do I go from 99214 to 99215 for such complex cases? I’m not going to call other physicians, chat for 40 minutes, or order unneeded tests just so I can “code up,” but I want to be paid for more than the asthma exacerbation because I’m doing more than that.

Andrew Johnstone, MD, Indianapolis

 

Correction

In “10 billing & coding tips to boost your reimbursement” (November 2008), the codes for the flu and pneumococcal vaccines and a preventive medicine visit were incorrect. The correct codes are:

 

  • 99397 (preventive medicine, established patient age ≥65)
  • 90658 (flu vaccine, ≥3 years dosage)
  • 90732 (pneumococcal vaccine, adult dosage).

As a further clarification, the article should have noted that the preventive medicine code would be used only if the patient received a physical examination.

Please do a follow-up to your article on billing and coding—specifically, on 99215. I realize many physicians are trying to work up from 99213 to 99214. But we have a mature practice with many complex patients and need help working up to 99215.

Here’s an example: A patient comes in with an asthmatic exacerbation due to sinusitis, and it’s likely a level 4. But the original purpose of the visit was a lipid panel review and follow-up for abnormal liver enzymes—another level 4. The patient also wants to discuss his colonoscopy report, which shows the presence of polyps.

Yes, I know I can make such patients schedule 3 separate appointments. But they’ll get mad, their boss will fire them, and it’s inefficient besides. I also know I can spend nearly 40 minutes with them and code for “counseling.” But suppose I can treat the asthma and infection in 6 minutes, discuss and alter the lipid Rx in 4 minutes, and review the colonoscopy results in 2. Now I have a 12-minute visit that I’m stuck billing at the rate of a 99214, which is “typically 25 minutes.”

I know I’m supposed to feel guilty, but I’m not going to do all that “free” work just because I can do it quickly and efficiently. So how do I go from 99214 to 99215 for such complex cases? I’m not going to call other physicians, chat for 40 minutes, or order unneeded tests just so I can “code up,” but I want to be paid for more than the asthma exacerbation because I’m doing more than that.

Andrew Johnstone, MD, Indianapolis

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