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In a Parallel Universe, “I’d Be a Concert Pianist” Says Tennessee GI
She also relishes opportunities to think, to analyze, and solve problems for her patients.
One of her chief interests is inflammatory bowel disease (IBD). It’s reassuring to focus on a field of work “where I know exactly what’s causing the issue, and I can select a therapeutic approach (medication and lifestyle changes) that help a patient achieve remission,” said Dr. Pointer, co-owner and managing partner of Digestive and Liver Health Specialists in Hendersonville, Tenn. She’s also the medical director and a principal investigator of Quality Medical Research in Nashville, and currently serves as chair of the AGA Trainee and Early Career Committee.
Starting her own practice has been just as challenging and rewarding as going through medical school. Medical training does not prepare you for starting your own practice, Dr. Pointer said, so she and her business partner have had to learn as they go. “But I think we’ve done very well. We’ve taken the ups and downs in stride.”
In an interview, Dr. Pointer spoke more about her work in IBD and the ways in which she’s given back to the community through music and mentoring.
Q: Why did you choose GI?
I knew from a very young age that I was going to be a physician. I had always been interested in science. When I got into medical school and became exposed to the different areas, I really liked the cognitive skills where you had to think through a problem or an issue. But I also liked the procedural things as well.
During my internal medicine residency training, I felt that I had a knack for it. As I was looking at different options, I decided on gastroenterology because it combined both cognitive thinking through issues, but also taking it to the next step and intervening through procedures.
Q: During fellowship, your focus was inflammatory bowel disease. What drew your interest to this condition?
There are a lot of different areas within gastroenterology that one can subspecialize in, as we see the full gamut of gastrointestinal and hepatic disorders. But treating some conditions, like functional disorders, means taking more of a ‘trial and error’ approach, and you may not always get the patient a hundred percent better. That’s not to say that we can’t improve a patient’s quality of life, but it’s not always a guarantee.
But inflammatory bowel disease is a little bit different. Because I can point to an exact spot in the intestines that’s causing the problem, it’s very fulfilling for me as a physician to take a patient who is having 10-12 bloody bowel movements a day, to normal form stools and no abdominal pain. They’re able to gain weight and go on about their lives and about their day. So that was why I picked inflammatory bowel disease as my subspecialty.
Q: Tell me about the gastroenterology elective you developed for family medicine residents and undergraduate students. What’s the status of the program now?
I’ve always been interested in teaching and giving back to the next generations. I feel like I had great mentor opportunities and people who helped me along the way. In my previous hospital position, I was able to work with the family medicine department and create an elective through which residents and even undergraduate students could come and shadow and work with me in the clinic and see me performing procedures.
That elective ended once I left that position, at least as far as I’m aware. But in the private practice that I co-own now, we have numerous shadowing opportunities. I was able to give a lecture at Middle Tennessee State University for some students. And through that lecture, many students have reached out to me to shadow. I have allowed them to come shadow and do clinic work as a medical assistant and watch me perform procedures. I have multiple students working with me weekly.
Q: Years ago, you founded the non-profit Enchanted Fingers Piano Lessons, which gave free piano lessons to underserved youth. What was that experience like?
Piano was one of my first loves. In some parallel universe, there’s a Dr. Pointer who is a classical, concert pianist. I started taking piano lessons when I was in early middle school, and I took to it very quickly. I was able to excel. I just loved it. I enjoyed practicing and I still play.
The impetus for starting Enchanted Fingers Piano lessons was because I wanted to give back again to the community. I came from an underserved community. Oftentimes children and young adults in those communities don’t get exposed to extracurricular activities and they don’t even know what they could potentially have a passion for. And I definitely had a passion for piano. I partnered with a church organization and they allowed me to use their church to host these piano lessons, and it was a phenomenal and rewarding experience. I would definitely like to start it up again one day in the future. It was an amazing experience.
It’s actually how I met my husband. He was one of the young adult students who signed up to take lessons. We both still enjoy playing the piano together.
Q: When you’re not being a GI, how do you spend your free weekend afternoons?
I’m a creative at heart. I really enjoy sewing and I’m working on a few sewing projects. I just got a serger. It is a machine that helps you finish a seam. It can also be used to sew entire garments. That has been fun, learning how to thread that machine. When I’m not doing that or just relaxing with my family, I do enjoy curling up with a good book. Stephen King is one of my favorite authors.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Talking
Favorite junk food?
Chocolate chip cookies
Cat or dog person?
Cat
Favorite vacation?
Hawaii
How many cups of coffee do you drink per day?
I don’t drink coffee
Favorite ice cream?
Butter pecan
Favorite sport?
I don’t watch sports
Optimist or pessimist?
Optimist
She also relishes opportunities to think, to analyze, and solve problems for her patients.
One of her chief interests is inflammatory bowel disease (IBD). It’s reassuring to focus on a field of work “where I know exactly what’s causing the issue, and I can select a therapeutic approach (medication and lifestyle changes) that help a patient achieve remission,” said Dr. Pointer, co-owner and managing partner of Digestive and Liver Health Specialists in Hendersonville, Tenn. She’s also the medical director and a principal investigator of Quality Medical Research in Nashville, and currently serves as chair of the AGA Trainee and Early Career Committee.
Starting her own practice has been just as challenging and rewarding as going through medical school. Medical training does not prepare you for starting your own practice, Dr. Pointer said, so she and her business partner have had to learn as they go. “But I think we’ve done very well. We’ve taken the ups and downs in stride.”
In an interview, Dr. Pointer spoke more about her work in IBD and the ways in which she’s given back to the community through music and mentoring.
Q: Why did you choose GI?
I knew from a very young age that I was going to be a physician. I had always been interested in science. When I got into medical school and became exposed to the different areas, I really liked the cognitive skills where you had to think through a problem or an issue. But I also liked the procedural things as well.
During my internal medicine residency training, I felt that I had a knack for it. As I was looking at different options, I decided on gastroenterology because it combined both cognitive thinking through issues, but also taking it to the next step and intervening through procedures.
Q: During fellowship, your focus was inflammatory bowel disease. What drew your interest to this condition?
There are a lot of different areas within gastroenterology that one can subspecialize in, as we see the full gamut of gastrointestinal and hepatic disorders. But treating some conditions, like functional disorders, means taking more of a ‘trial and error’ approach, and you may not always get the patient a hundred percent better. That’s not to say that we can’t improve a patient’s quality of life, but it’s not always a guarantee.
But inflammatory bowel disease is a little bit different. Because I can point to an exact spot in the intestines that’s causing the problem, it’s very fulfilling for me as a physician to take a patient who is having 10-12 bloody bowel movements a day, to normal form stools and no abdominal pain. They’re able to gain weight and go on about their lives and about their day. So that was why I picked inflammatory bowel disease as my subspecialty.
Q: Tell me about the gastroenterology elective you developed for family medicine residents and undergraduate students. What’s the status of the program now?
I’ve always been interested in teaching and giving back to the next generations. I feel like I had great mentor opportunities and people who helped me along the way. In my previous hospital position, I was able to work with the family medicine department and create an elective through which residents and even undergraduate students could come and shadow and work with me in the clinic and see me performing procedures.
That elective ended once I left that position, at least as far as I’m aware. But in the private practice that I co-own now, we have numerous shadowing opportunities. I was able to give a lecture at Middle Tennessee State University for some students. And through that lecture, many students have reached out to me to shadow. I have allowed them to come shadow and do clinic work as a medical assistant and watch me perform procedures. I have multiple students working with me weekly.
Q: Years ago, you founded the non-profit Enchanted Fingers Piano Lessons, which gave free piano lessons to underserved youth. What was that experience like?
Piano was one of my first loves. In some parallel universe, there’s a Dr. Pointer who is a classical, concert pianist. I started taking piano lessons when I was in early middle school, and I took to it very quickly. I was able to excel. I just loved it. I enjoyed practicing and I still play.
The impetus for starting Enchanted Fingers Piano lessons was because I wanted to give back again to the community. I came from an underserved community. Oftentimes children and young adults in those communities don’t get exposed to extracurricular activities and they don’t even know what they could potentially have a passion for. And I definitely had a passion for piano. I partnered with a church organization and they allowed me to use their church to host these piano lessons, and it was a phenomenal and rewarding experience. I would definitely like to start it up again one day in the future. It was an amazing experience.
It’s actually how I met my husband. He was one of the young adult students who signed up to take lessons. We both still enjoy playing the piano together.
Q: When you’re not being a GI, how do you spend your free weekend afternoons?
I’m a creative at heart. I really enjoy sewing and I’m working on a few sewing projects. I just got a serger. It is a machine that helps you finish a seam. It can also be used to sew entire garments. That has been fun, learning how to thread that machine. When I’m not doing that or just relaxing with my family, I do enjoy curling up with a good book. Stephen King is one of my favorite authors.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Talking
Favorite junk food?
Chocolate chip cookies
Cat or dog person?
Cat
Favorite vacation?
Hawaii
How many cups of coffee do you drink per day?
I don’t drink coffee
Favorite ice cream?
Butter pecan
Favorite sport?
I don’t watch sports
Optimist or pessimist?
Optimist
She also relishes opportunities to think, to analyze, and solve problems for her patients.
One of her chief interests is inflammatory bowel disease (IBD). It’s reassuring to focus on a field of work “where I know exactly what’s causing the issue, and I can select a therapeutic approach (medication and lifestyle changes) that help a patient achieve remission,” said Dr. Pointer, co-owner and managing partner of Digestive and Liver Health Specialists in Hendersonville, Tenn. She’s also the medical director and a principal investigator of Quality Medical Research in Nashville, and currently serves as chair of the AGA Trainee and Early Career Committee.
Starting her own practice has been just as challenging and rewarding as going through medical school. Medical training does not prepare you for starting your own practice, Dr. Pointer said, so she and her business partner have had to learn as they go. “But I think we’ve done very well. We’ve taken the ups and downs in stride.”
In an interview, Dr. Pointer spoke more about her work in IBD and the ways in which she’s given back to the community through music and mentoring.
Q: Why did you choose GI?
I knew from a very young age that I was going to be a physician. I had always been interested in science. When I got into medical school and became exposed to the different areas, I really liked the cognitive skills where you had to think through a problem or an issue. But I also liked the procedural things as well.
During my internal medicine residency training, I felt that I had a knack for it. As I was looking at different options, I decided on gastroenterology because it combined both cognitive thinking through issues, but also taking it to the next step and intervening through procedures.
Q: During fellowship, your focus was inflammatory bowel disease. What drew your interest to this condition?
There are a lot of different areas within gastroenterology that one can subspecialize in, as we see the full gamut of gastrointestinal and hepatic disorders. But treating some conditions, like functional disorders, means taking more of a ‘trial and error’ approach, and you may not always get the patient a hundred percent better. That’s not to say that we can’t improve a patient’s quality of life, but it’s not always a guarantee.
But inflammatory bowel disease is a little bit different. Because I can point to an exact spot in the intestines that’s causing the problem, it’s very fulfilling for me as a physician to take a patient who is having 10-12 bloody bowel movements a day, to normal form stools and no abdominal pain. They’re able to gain weight and go on about their lives and about their day. So that was why I picked inflammatory bowel disease as my subspecialty.
Q: Tell me about the gastroenterology elective you developed for family medicine residents and undergraduate students. What’s the status of the program now?
I’ve always been interested in teaching and giving back to the next generations. I feel like I had great mentor opportunities and people who helped me along the way. In my previous hospital position, I was able to work with the family medicine department and create an elective through which residents and even undergraduate students could come and shadow and work with me in the clinic and see me performing procedures.
That elective ended once I left that position, at least as far as I’m aware. But in the private practice that I co-own now, we have numerous shadowing opportunities. I was able to give a lecture at Middle Tennessee State University for some students. And through that lecture, many students have reached out to me to shadow. I have allowed them to come shadow and do clinic work as a medical assistant and watch me perform procedures. I have multiple students working with me weekly.
Q: Years ago, you founded the non-profit Enchanted Fingers Piano Lessons, which gave free piano lessons to underserved youth. What was that experience like?
Piano was one of my first loves. In some parallel universe, there’s a Dr. Pointer who is a classical, concert pianist. I started taking piano lessons when I was in early middle school, and I took to it very quickly. I was able to excel. I just loved it. I enjoyed practicing and I still play.
The impetus for starting Enchanted Fingers Piano lessons was because I wanted to give back again to the community. I came from an underserved community. Oftentimes children and young adults in those communities don’t get exposed to extracurricular activities and they don’t even know what they could potentially have a passion for. And I definitely had a passion for piano. I partnered with a church organization and they allowed me to use their church to host these piano lessons, and it was a phenomenal and rewarding experience. I would definitely like to start it up again one day in the future. It was an amazing experience.
It’s actually how I met my husband. He was one of the young adult students who signed up to take lessons. We both still enjoy playing the piano together.
Q: When you’re not being a GI, how do you spend your free weekend afternoons?
I’m a creative at heart. I really enjoy sewing and I’m working on a few sewing projects. I just got a serger. It is a machine that helps you finish a seam. It can also be used to sew entire garments. That has been fun, learning how to thread that machine. When I’m not doing that or just relaxing with my family, I do enjoy curling up with a good book. Stephen King is one of my favorite authors.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Talking
Favorite junk food?
Chocolate chip cookies
Cat or dog person?
Cat
Favorite vacation?
Hawaii
How many cups of coffee do you drink per day?
I don’t drink coffee
Favorite ice cream?
Butter pecan
Favorite sport?
I don’t watch sports
Optimist or pessimist?
Optimist
Giving the Smallest GI Transplant Patients a New Lease On Life
The best part about working with kids is that “I get to laugh every day,” said Ke-You (Yoyo) Zhang, MD, clinical assistant professor for pediatrics–gastroenterology and hepatology at Stanford Medicine in California.
Dealing with sick children is difficult. “But I think the difference between pediatrics and adults is despite how hard things get, children are the single most resilient people you’re ever going to meet,” she said.
Kids don’t always know they’re sick and they don’t act sick, even when they are. “Every day, I literally get on the floor, I get to play, I get to run around. And truly, I have fun every single day. I get excited to go to work. And I think that’s what makes work not feel like work,” said Dr. Zhang.
In an interview, she discussed the satisfaction of following patients throughout their care continuum and her research to reduce the likelihood of transplant rejection.
She also shared an inspirational story of one young patient who spent his life tied to an IV, and how a transplant exposed him to the normal joys of life, like swimming, going to camp and getting on a plane for the first time.
Q: Why did you choose this subspecialty of pediatric GI?
I think it’s the best subspecialty because I think it combines a lot of the things that I enjoy, which is long-term continuity of care. It’s about growing up with your patients and seeing them through all the various stages of their life, often meeting patients when they’re babies. I get pictures of high school graduations and life milestones and even see some of my patients have families of their own. Becoming a part of their family is very meaningful to me. I also like complexity and acuity, and gastroenterology and hepatology provide those things.
And then lastly, it’s great to be able to exercise procedural skills and constantly learn new procedural skills.
Q: How did you become interested in the field of pediatric intestinal and liver transplantation?
I did all my training here at Stanford. We have one of the largest pediatric transplant centers and we also have a very large intestinal rehabilitation population.
Coming through residency and fellowship, I had a lot of exposure to transplant and intestinal failure, intestinal rehabilitation. I really liked the longitudinal relationship I got to form with my patients. Sometimes they’re in the neonatal ICU, where you’re meeting them in their very first days of life. You follow them through their chronic illness, through transplant and after transplant for many years. You become not just their GI, but the center of their care.
Q: What challenges are unique to this type of transplant work?
Pediatric intestinal failure and intestinal transplant represents an incredibly small subset of children. Oftentimes, they do not get the resources and recognition on a national policy level or even at the hospital level that other gastrointestinal diseases receive. What’s difficult is they are such a small subset but their complexity and their needs are probably in the highest percentile. So that’s a really challenging combination to start with. And there’s only a few centers that specialize in doing intestinal rehabilitation and intestinal transplantation for children in the country.
Developing expertise has been slow. But I think in the last decade or so, our understanding and success with intestinal rehabilitation and intestinal transplantation has really improved, especially at large centers like Stanford. We’ve had a lot of success stories and have not had any graft loss since 2014.
Q: Are these transplants hard to acquire?
Yes, especially when you’re transplanting not just the intestines but the liver as well. You’re waiting for two organs, not just one organ. And on top of that, you’re waiting for an appropriately sized donor; usually a child who’s around the same size or same age who’s passed away. Those organs would have to be a good match. Children can wait multiple years for a transplant.
Q: Is there a success story you’d like to share?
One patient I met in the neonatal ICU had congenital short bowel syndrome. He was born with hardly any intestines. He developed complications of being on long-term intravenous nutrition, which included recurrent central line infections and liver disease. He was never able to eat because he really didn’t have a digestive system that could adequately absorb anything. He had a central line in one of his large veins, so he couldn’t go swimming.
He had to have special adaptive wear to even shower or bathe and couldn’t travel. It’s these types of patients that benefit so much from transplant. Putting any kid through transplant is a massive undertaking and it certainly has risks. But he underwent a successful transplant at the age of 8—not just an intestinal transplant, but a multi-visceral transplant of the liver, intestine, and pancreas. He’s 9 years old now, and no longer needs intravenous nutrition. He ate by mouth for the very first time after transplant. He’s trying all sorts of new foods and he was able to go to a special transplant camp for children. Getting on a plane to Los Angeles, which is where our transplant camp is, was a huge deal.
He was able to swim in the lake. He’s never been able to do that. And he wants to start doing sports this fall. This was really a life-changing story for him.
Q: What advancements lie ahead for this field of work? Have you work on any notable research?
I think our understanding of transplant immunology has really progressed, especially recently. That’s what part of my research is about—using novel therapies to modulate the immune system of pediatric transplant recipients. The No. 1 complication that occurs after intestinal transplant is rejection because obviously you’re implanting somebody else’s organs into a patient.
I am involved in a clinical trial that’s looking at the use of extracellular vesicles that are isolated from hematopoietic stem cells. These vesicles contain various growth factors, anti-inflammatory proteins and tissue repair factors that we are infusing into intestinal transplant patients with the aim to repair the intestinal tissue patients are rejecting.
Q: When you’re not being a GI, how do you spend your free weekend afternoons?
My husband and I have an almost 2-year-old little girl. She keeps us busy and I spend my afternoons chasing after a crazy toddler.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Huge texter
Favorite junk food?
French fries
Cat or dog person?
Dog
Favorite ice cream?
Strawberry
If you weren’t a gastroenterologist, what would you be?Florist
Best place you’ve traveled to?
Thailand
Number of cups of coffee you drink per day?
Too many
Favorite city in the US besides the one you live in?
New York City
Favorite sport?
Tennis
Optimist or pessimist?
Optimist
The best part about working with kids is that “I get to laugh every day,” said Ke-You (Yoyo) Zhang, MD, clinical assistant professor for pediatrics–gastroenterology and hepatology at Stanford Medicine in California.
Dealing with sick children is difficult. “But I think the difference between pediatrics and adults is despite how hard things get, children are the single most resilient people you’re ever going to meet,” she said.
Kids don’t always know they’re sick and they don’t act sick, even when they are. “Every day, I literally get on the floor, I get to play, I get to run around. And truly, I have fun every single day. I get excited to go to work. And I think that’s what makes work not feel like work,” said Dr. Zhang.
In an interview, she discussed the satisfaction of following patients throughout their care continuum and her research to reduce the likelihood of transplant rejection.
She also shared an inspirational story of one young patient who spent his life tied to an IV, and how a transplant exposed him to the normal joys of life, like swimming, going to camp and getting on a plane for the first time.
Q: Why did you choose this subspecialty of pediatric GI?
I think it’s the best subspecialty because I think it combines a lot of the things that I enjoy, which is long-term continuity of care. It’s about growing up with your patients and seeing them through all the various stages of their life, often meeting patients when they’re babies. I get pictures of high school graduations and life milestones and even see some of my patients have families of their own. Becoming a part of their family is very meaningful to me. I also like complexity and acuity, and gastroenterology and hepatology provide those things.
And then lastly, it’s great to be able to exercise procedural skills and constantly learn new procedural skills.
Q: How did you become interested in the field of pediatric intestinal and liver transplantation?
I did all my training here at Stanford. We have one of the largest pediatric transplant centers and we also have a very large intestinal rehabilitation population.
Coming through residency and fellowship, I had a lot of exposure to transplant and intestinal failure, intestinal rehabilitation. I really liked the longitudinal relationship I got to form with my patients. Sometimes they’re in the neonatal ICU, where you’re meeting them in their very first days of life. You follow them through their chronic illness, through transplant and after transplant for many years. You become not just their GI, but the center of their care.
Q: What challenges are unique to this type of transplant work?
Pediatric intestinal failure and intestinal transplant represents an incredibly small subset of children. Oftentimes, they do not get the resources and recognition on a national policy level or even at the hospital level that other gastrointestinal diseases receive. What’s difficult is they are such a small subset but their complexity and their needs are probably in the highest percentile. So that’s a really challenging combination to start with. And there’s only a few centers that specialize in doing intestinal rehabilitation and intestinal transplantation for children in the country.
Developing expertise has been slow. But I think in the last decade or so, our understanding and success with intestinal rehabilitation and intestinal transplantation has really improved, especially at large centers like Stanford. We’ve had a lot of success stories and have not had any graft loss since 2014.
Q: Are these transplants hard to acquire?
Yes, especially when you’re transplanting not just the intestines but the liver as well. You’re waiting for two organs, not just one organ. And on top of that, you’re waiting for an appropriately sized donor; usually a child who’s around the same size or same age who’s passed away. Those organs would have to be a good match. Children can wait multiple years for a transplant.
Q: Is there a success story you’d like to share?
One patient I met in the neonatal ICU had congenital short bowel syndrome. He was born with hardly any intestines. He developed complications of being on long-term intravenous nutrition, which included recurrent central line infections and liver disease. He was never able to eat because he really didn’t have a digestive system that could adequately absorb anything. He had a central line in one of his large veins, so he couldn’t go swimming.
He had to have special adaptive wear to even shower or bathe and couldn’t travel. It’s these types of patients that benefit so much from transplant. Putting any kid through transplant is a massive undertaking and it certainly has risks. But he underwent a successful transplant at the age of 8—not just an intestinal transplant, but a multi-visceral transplant of the liver, intestine, and pancreas. He’s 9 years old now, and no longer needs intravenous nutrition. He ate by mouth for the very first time after transplant. He’s trying all sorts of new foods and he was able to go to a special transplant camp for children. Getting on a plane to Los Angeles, which is where our transplant camp is, was a huge deal.
He was able to swim in the lake. He’s never been able to do that. And he wants to start doing sports this fall. This was really a life-changing story for him.
Q: What advancements lie ahead for this field of work? Have you work on any notable research?
I think our understanding of transplant immunology has really progressed, especially recently. That’s what part of my research is about—using novel therapies to modulate the immune system of pediatric transplant recipients. The No. 1 complication that occurs after intestinal transplant is rejection because obviously you’re implanting somebody else’s organs into a patient.
I am involved in a clinical trial that’s looking at the use of extracellular vesicles that are isolated from hematopoietic stem cells. These vesicles contain various growth factors, anti-inflammatory proteins and tissue repair factors that we are infusing into intestinal transplant patients with the aim to repair the intestinal tissue patients are rejecting.
Q: When you’re not being a GI, how do you spend your free weekend afternoons?
My husband and I have an almost 2-year-old little girl. She keeps us busy and I spend my afternoons chasing after a crazy toddler.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Huge texter
Favorite junk food?
French fries
Cat or dog person?
Dog
Favorite ice cream?
Strawberry
If you weren’t a gastroenterologist, what would you be?Florist
Best place you’ve traveled to?
Thailand
Number of cups of coffee you drink per day?
Too many
Favorite city in the US besides the one you live in?
New York City
Favorite sport?
Tennis
Optimist or pessimist?
Optimist
The best part about working with kids is that “I get to laugh every day,” said Ke-You (Yoyo) Zhang, MD, clinical assistant professor for pediatrics–gastroenterology and hepatology at Stanford Medicine in California.
Dealing with sick children is difficult. “But I think the difference between pediatrics and adults is despite how hard things get, children are the single most resilient people you’re ever going to meet,” she said.
Kids don’t always know they’re sick and they don’t act sick, even when they are. “Every day, I literally get on the floor, I get to play, I get to run around. And truly, I have fun every single day. I get excited to go to work. And I think that’s what makes work not feel like work,” said Dr. Zhang.
In an interview, she discussed the satisfaction of following patients throughout their care continuum and her research to reduce the likelihood of transplant rejection.
She also shared an inspirational story of one young patient who spent his life tied to an IV, and how a transplant exposed him to the normal joys of life, like swimming, going to camp and getting on a plane for the first time.
Q: Why did you choose this subspecialty of pediatric GI?
I think it’s the best subspecialty because I think it combines a lot of the things that I enjoy, which is long-term continuity of care. It’s about growing up with your patients and seeing them through all the various stages of their life, often meeting patients when they’re babies. I get pictures of high school graduations and life milestones and even see some of my patients have families of their own. Becoming a part of their family is very meaningful to me. I also like complexity and acuity, and gastroenterology and hepatology provide those things.
And then lastly, it’s great to be able to exercise procedural skills and constantly learn new procedural skills.
Q: How did you become interested in the field of pediatric intestinal and liver transplantation?
I did all my training here at Stanford. We have one of the largest pediatric transplant centers and we also have a very large intestinal rehabilitation population.
Coming through residency and fellowship, I had a lot of exposure to transplant and intestinal failure, intestinal rehabilitation. I really liked the longitudinal relationship I got to form with my patients. Sometimes they’re in the neonatal ICU, where you’re meeting them in their very first days of life. You follow them through their chronic illness, through transplant and after transplant for many years. You become not just their GI, but the center of their care.
Q: What challenges are unique to this type of transplant work?
Pediatric intestinal failure and intestinal transplant represents an incredibly small subset of children. Oftentimes, they do not get the resources and recognition on a national policy level or even at the hospital level that other gastrointestinal diseases receive. What’s difficult is they are such a small subset but their complexity and their needs are probably in the highest percentile. So that’s a really challenging combination to start with. And there’s only a few centers that specialize in doing intestinal rehabilitation and intestinal transplantation for children in the country.
Developing expertise has been slow. But I think in the last decade or so, our understanding and success with intestinal rehabilitation and intestinal transplantation has really improved, especially at large centers like Stanford. We’ve had a lot of success stories and have not had any graft loss since 2014.
Q: Are these transplants hard to acquire?
Yes, especially when you’re transplanting not just the intestines but the liver as well. You’re waiting for two organs, not just one organ. And on top of that, you’re waiting for an appropriately sized donor; usually a child who’s around the same size or same age who’s passed away. Those organs would have to be a good match. Children can wait multiple years for a transplant.
Q: Is there a success story you’d like to share?
One patient I met in the neonatal ICU had congenital short bowel syndrome. He was born with hardly any intestines. He developed complications of being on long-term intravenous nutrition, which included recurrent central line infections and liver disease. He was never able to eat because he really didn’t have a digestive system that could adequately absorb anything. He had a central line in one of his large veins, so he couldn’t go swimming.
He had to have special adaptive wear to even shower or bathe and couldn’t travel. It’s these types of patients that benefit so much from transplant. Putting any kid through transplant is a massive undertaking and it certainly has risks. But he underwent a successful transplant at the age of 8—not just an intestinal transplant, but a multi-visceral transplant of the liver, intestine, and pancreas. He’s 9 years old now, and no longer needs intravenous nutrition. He ate by mouth for the very first time after transplant. He’s trying all sorts of new foods and he was able to go to a special transplant camp for children. Getting on a plane to Los Angeles, which is where our transplant camp is, was a huge deal.
He was able to swim in the lake. He’s never been able to do that. And he wants to start doing sports this fall. This was really a life-changing story for him.
Q: What advancements lie ahead for this field of work? Have you work on any notable research?
I think our understanding of transplant immunology has really progressed, especially recently. That’s what part of my research is about—using novel therapies to modulate the immune system of pediatric transplant recipients. The No. 1 complication that occurs after intestinal transplant is rejection because obviously you’re implanting somebody else’s organs into a patient.
I am involved in a clinical trial that’s looking at the use of extracellular vesicles that are isolated from hematopoietic stem cells. These vesicles contain various growth factors, anti-inflammatory proteins and tissue repair factors that we are infusing into intestinal transplant patients with the aim to repair the intestinal tissue patients are rejecting.
Q: When you’re not being a GI, how do you spend your free weekend afternoons?
My husband and I have an almost 2-year-old little girl. She keeps us busy and I spend my afternoons chasing after a crazy toddler.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Huge texter
Favorite junk food?
French fries
Cat or dog person?
Dog
Favorite ice cream?
Strawberry
If you weren’t a gastroenterologist, what would you be?Florist
Best place you’ve traveled to?
Thailand
Number of cups of coffee you drink per day?
Too many
Favorite city in the US besides the one you live in?
New York City
Favorite sport?
Tennis
Optimist or pessimist?
Optimist
Patient Navigators in Rheumatology Set to Expand in Importance, Scope With New Medicare Codes
When a large rheumatology clinic in Richmond, Virginia, heard that Medicare would be reimbursing patient navigators, they decided to launch their own virtual navigator program.
“We read about it and felt like it was the perfect representation of what we were already trying to do,” said Blake Wehman, founder and CEO of Remission Medical, which offers virtual diagnosis and longitudinal care in rheumatology.
Mr. Wehman has plans to start submitting for these principal illness navigation (PIN) codes in 2025.
The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) in 2024 began paying navigators who assist Medicare patients with high-risk conditions, which could include rheumatologic diseases. “The codes are not limited to a specific set of diagnoses; rather, the definition of a serious, high-risk condition is dependent on clinical judgment,” the agency clarified.
CMS established this provision in the CY 2024 Physician Fee Schedule final rule.
Reimbursing patient navigators is long overdue, noted Edith Williams, PhD, MS, director of the Center for Community Health and Prevention and founding director of the Office of Health Equity Research at the University of Rochester in New York. “It’s something our patients need. It’s something that the science is telling us can impact outcomes as an adjunct to clinical care,” she said.
Dr. Williams said the new CMS codes “got our departments talking about what this policy is and how it would translate into patient care.”
The codes apply when navigators are assigned to support patients with high-risk conditions who need assistance connecting with clinical and other resources, including any unmet social determinants of health needs, or in diagnosis or treatment of their medical problems.
“Having a navigator by their side to help get through all the clinical and administrative challenges gives people an advocate and a partner who is with them and their families every step of the way to help make the journey easier,” said a CMS spokesperson.
Not all navigator programs may qualify for the new codes. Some are supported by grants and don’t bill patient insurance. However, they all share a common goal: to guide patients through the healthcare continuum and assist with appointments and medication adherence.
Identifying ‘Root Causes’ of Barriers
Navigators represent a wide variety of backgrounds, ranging from healthcare professionals to students or even patients themselves. They generally don’t provide medical advice. “However, we are responsible for making sure our patients and their families are educated and aware, then assist with guidance on their path,” said Katie Costillo, BSW, CPPN, patient navigator and program manager with the Lupus Foundation of America, Heartland Region.
“Training and experience in engaging and building rapport is essential to assisting patients overcome obstacles that limit their access to healthcare,” she said. Narrowing down with patients the root causes of their barriers and then identifying appropriate and available community resources is key.
Studies have demonstrated the effectiveness of adding a navigator to a rheumatology patient’s care plan. In one study, a group of Boston researchers determined that navigators played a useful role in reducing adherence barriers to oral disease-modifying antirheumatic drugs. The navigators uncovered several concerns among 107 rheumatology patients, including fear of adverse events and medication effectiveness.
They also helped to facilitate patient-physician communication, developed strategies to improve medication adherence, and provided medication and diagnosis education. Patients reported satisfaction with the navigator experience.
A study Dr. Williams coauthored that examined behavioral interventions to support African American women with systemic lupus erythematosus found that patient navigator participants had superior coping scores, compared with those engaged in peer-to-peer methodology and patient support groups.
“We had a lot of success with the mentorship program, too,” Dr. Williams said. Navigator services, however, offer more one-on-one attention, “and it’s more tailored to what the person needs rather than the set curriculum that the mentors delivered to their mentees.”
Supporting Patients With Lupus
Ideally, navigators should be able to relate to patients and know what they’re going through, Dr. Williams said. This is someone whom the patient can trust and depend on. “That’s where the benefit of having someone who is also a patient lies because they’re ultimately relatable to other patients. But different institutions have taken different approaches to this.”
Some programs focus on specific rheumatologic conditions. The Lupus Foundation of America, for example, established patient navigator programs to assist patients with lupus in four markets across the country.
The Heartland patient navigator program is available for all patients with lupus within its region, which includes Kansas, Missouri, and central and southern Illinois. As a navigator, Ms. Costillo has been assisting patients since 2022. In 2023, she began meeting with patients at the Washington University Lupus Clinic (WULC) in St. Louis, Missouri.
Navigators work directly with patients before and after their appointment to ensure follow-up and reduce missed appointments. “They help lupus patients connect with community services and overcoming barriers to access and care. The goal of this position is to improve overall disease management, which results in better health outcomes,” Ms. Costillo said.
Since its inception, the patient navigator program at WULC has shown a decrease in patient no-call no-shows and an increase in requests to reschedule as opposed to not showing up for their scheduled appointment, based on history.
Patients have reported fewer barriers to transportation and improvement in access to resources, support, and disease education. “Our patients have also stated [that] meeting with the navigator during their appointments has helped them to feel heard, understood, and supported,” Ms. Costillo said.
Navigator Work Is Not Without Challenges
A total of 90% of patients with lupus are women, and women of color are two to three times more likely to develop lupus in their lifetime.
“Based on socioeconomic statistics, lupus patients are in a demographic that is commonly underserved, underfunded, and often overlooked. Finding appropriate local community resources for a patient who must choose between feeding her family or paying for transportation to multiple physician appointments is a common problem,” Ms. Costillo said.
Much of the assistance that became available during the COVID pandemic is starting to disappear. “With the rising costs of daily living, we are having to find creative and alternative ways to break down barriers and find support to fill those gaps,” she continued.
Getting insurance coverage of patients is another challenge. Many patients with lupus will be prescribed a treatment that insurance refuses to cover even after the physician disputes it.
Additionally, many patients with lupus are unable to work to support their family. A majority who apply for Social Security Disability Insurance are denied on their first and second attempts, “requiring multiple hearings and pages of documentation from their physicians,” Ms. Costillo said.
Students Serve as Navigators
One inner-city program is seeking to increase access to healthcare services to patients with lupus and lupus nephritis in underserved communities. In 2021, SUNY Downstate Health Sciences University in New York City, in partnership with the Brooklyn Free Clinic and Brooklyn Health Disparities Center, launched a program to teach navigator skills to second-year medical students.
The students assist patients at the Arthritis Clinic at University Hospital at Downstate. “Many of our patients have either low medical literacy or difficulty with English. Many of them are immigrants,” said Ellen M. Ginzler, MD, MPH, SUNY Downstate’s professor emerita and former vice-chair for research and rheumatology division chief.
Dr. Ginzler sought out navigator candidates who showed a strong interest in working with underserved patients with complicated, severe disease who struggled with keeping appointments or adhering to medication regimens. The program also gave preference to students fluent in other languages such as Spanish.
All these efforts have generated improvements in care.
Assessing the program’s effectiveness in a cross-sectional study, Dr. Ginzler and colleagues reported that 94% of navigators were able to schedule appointments and 87% assisted with prescriptions. Navigators also had high success rates in answering medical questions, getting in touch with a patient’s doctor, and reminding patients of medical appointments.
Medical student Jeremy Wilson, a coauthor of the study, served as a navigator for a woman with lupus and scleroderma for many years, along with other comorbidities.
Mr. Wilson went above and beyond for this patient, helping to secure social services supports that included accompanying her to clinic visits and serving as her advocate. “She found an enormous difference in how she was treated when she went to these clinics because the doctors in those clinics took her much more seriously,” Dr. Ginzler said. Mr. Wilson ran interference to secure clinic appointments and worked with the patient’s rheumatology fellow in the clinic to get approval for medications.
Mr. Wilson and the patient formed a great bond. “It not only helped the patient, but it helped Jeremy tremendously in terms of how he felt about his medical career,” Dr. Ginzler said.
The program has since expanded to include patients with other rheumatic diseases, such as rheumatoid arthritis and psoriatic arthritis, and also offers navigator services in dermatology.
A total of 21 students to date have completed the second year of the program. “We’ve just selected eight more,” Dr. Ginzler said. Some of the students continue to do the program in their third or even fourth year as they’re applying for residencies.
A student-run, unpublished survey of nine students in the SUNY program found that all nine reported high confidence in identifying social factors that impact patient health and well-being, compared with four who reported high confidence prior to starting the program. “Additionally, students reported increased confidence in providing comprehensive care in rheumatology and dermatology, and interdisciplinary collaboration,” study author Alejandra K. Moncayo, MPH, and colleagues wrote.
When Navigators Go Virtual
Remission Medical offers its navigator service through its own standalone virtual clinic.
Pain associated with rheumatologic conditions increases the urgency to see a doctor. The goal of the virtual RemissionNavigator program is to meet rheumatology patients where they live, to bridge care gaps and reduce wait times, said Mr. Wehman.
RemissionNavigator accomplishes this through video visits and unlimited texting to its network of board-certified rheumatologists or rheumatology-focused advanced practice providers. Experts can answer questions about why labs are ordered, why a patient may have received a certain diagnosis, or provide detailed explanations of a rheumatic condition.
“There are instances where improvement for the patient means waiting a couple days for us versus 45 days for their brick-and-mortar choice,” Mr. Wehman said.
The program currently has 36 subscribers to Remission’s services, which include navigation. “We have 15 providers in a blend of employed and contracted relationships with Remission,” Mr. Wehman said.
Even in its infancy, the navigator program has produced some success stories. “We had a patient tell us that thanks to us, he was seen faster, found relief immediately through our diagnosis and prescription of methotrexate, felt better at work, lost weight, and was happier in general,” Mr. Wehman said.
Another patient was making monthly, 90-minute trips to Richmond for infusion services. Through the virtual program’s assistance, she is now receiving care from home and can get her monthly infusions at a local clinic.
Ultimately, the goal is to help rheumatology move into an era of value-based care where the transition from fee-for-service to per patient will enable optimized care models and better accessibility, Mr. Wehman said. “It will not happen overnight, but every day we work toward this future.”
VA Targets Rheumatology Care
The Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) has also explored the use of navigator services in rheumatology, including virtual services.
VA uses an integrated, interdisciplinary model that manages each veteran’s individual healthcare needs through a coordinated effort among providers, nurses, social workers, pharmacists, and other health professionals, according to VA press secretary Terrence Hayes.
Care coordination may include supporting scheduling appointments, managing chronic conditions, and coordinating care across different medical departments. “This coordination is particularly important in managing complex rheumatologic conditions, where multiple providers may be involved,” Mr. Hayes said.
Additionally, VA has launched a national telerheumatology initiative to improve access to rheumatology providers in rural areas. The initiative will assist veterans in understanding the telehealth system, navigating appointments, and ensuring they have the necessary technology for virtual consultations.
“It will also facilitate communication between rheumatologists, primary care providers, and other specialists, ensuring that all team members are aligned in their approach to the veteran’s care,” Mr. Hayes said.
Who Will Take Advantage of New Codes?
Currently, Remission Medical operates on a cash-pay model, but the company intends to transition to insurance-based coverage in 2025.
Remission Medical also partners directly with preexisting healthcare systems and clinics such as Sentara Health and OrthoVirginia, where a PIN program, powered by Remission Medical’s virtual rheumatology network, may be explored as well.
The company offers its partners synchronous virtual visits and e-consults. It’s likely that these larger organizations will explore coverage for navigator services for Medicare and private insurance. “We can be there to support them as they decide to implement this,” Mr. Wehman said.
Taking advantage of CMS’s navigator PIN codes is an eventual goal. Remission Medical has not submitted the codes yet, “but we do intend to as we continue to grow our membership count,” Mr. Wehman said. “We hope to provide coverage for most of the US and submit the codes to reimbursement by early to mid-2025.”
In terms of reimbursement, the VA operates under a different payment model than Medicare or private insurance, focusing on providing integrated care within the VA system rather than reimbursing for specific services such as patient navigation.
While the SUNY clinic takes care of Medicare patients, it’s unlikely that the new CMS codes for navigators would apply to medical students. Students get paid a monthly stipend for doing navigator work. “There’s a policy about what students can get paid, and how many hours they can work,” Dr. Ginzler clarified.
The SUNY Downstate and Lupus Foundation navigator programs rely on grants to sustain their services. Aurinia Pharmaceuticals has funded both programs, and the SUNY program received an additional grant from Janssen to expand its offerings.
Because it’s grant funded, the navigator position at the Lupus Foundation does not bill patient insurance, Ms. Costillo explained.
Navigator Work Requires Training
Before they start working with patients, navigators often go through a vetting or training process. At Remission Medical, a clinical leadership team does a synchronous interview, background check, and CV review of its potential navigators.
Even before she became a navigator, Ms. Costillo had a strong baseline education in this work. She has a bachelor’s degree in social work and 15 years of experience in social services working with disabled, vulnerable, and underserved populations. Some of her fellow navigators at the Lupus Foundation of America also have degrees in social work.
Ms. Costillo underwent training with the Patient-Centered Education & Research Institute to become a certified professional patient navigator. Her name is on the national registry. The curriculum covered various aspects of medical care such as patient and care team interactions and communications, health and clinical knowledge, patient care coordination and resources, and using evidence-based approaches.
“For our lupus patients, it is essential that navigators understand the disease and the impact on patients and families, treatments available and those in the pipelines, and also the ins and outs of various insurance options,” Ms. Costillo said.
Mr. Wehman, Dr. Williams, and Ms. Costillo reported no disclosures. Dr. Ginzler has been a consultant for Aurinia Pharmaceuticals.
A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.
When a large rheumatology clinic in Richmond, Virginia, heard that Medicare would be reimbursing patient navigators, they decided to launch their own virtual navigator program.
“We read about it and felt like it was the perfect representation of what we were already trying to do,” said Blake Wehman, founder and CEO of Remission Medical, which offers virtual diagnosis and longitudinal care in rheumatology.
Mr. Wehman has plans to start submitting for these principal illness navigation (PIN) codes in 2025.
The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) in 2024 began paying navigators who assist Medicare patients with high-risk conditions, which could include rheumatologic diseases. “The codes are not limited to a specific set of diagnoses; rather, the definition of a serious, high-risk condition is dependent on clinical judgment,” the agency clarified.
CMS established this provision in the CY 2024 Physician Fee Schedule final rule.
Reimbursing patient navigators is long overdue, noted Edith Williams, PhD, MS, director of the Center for Community Health and Prevention and founding director of the Office of Health Equity Research at the University of Rochester in New York. “It’s something our patients need. It’s something that the science is telling us can impact outcomes as an adjunct to clinical care,” she said.
Dr. Williams said the new CMS codes “got our departments talking about what this policy is and how it would translate into patient care.”
The codes apply when navigators are assigned to support patients with high-risk conditions who need assistance connecting with clinical and other resources, including any unmet social determinants of health needs, or in diagnosis or treatment of their medical problems.
“Having a navigator by their side to help get through all the clinical and administrative challenges gives people an advocate and a partner who is with them and their families every step of the way to help make the journey easier,” said a CMS spokesperson.
Not all navigator programs may qualify for the new codes. Some are supported by grants and don’t bill patient insurance. However, they all share a common goal: to guide patients through the healthcare continuum and assist with appointments and medication adherence.
Identifying ‘Root Causes’ of Barriers
Navigators represent a wide variety of backgrounds, ranging from healthcare professionals to students or even patients themselves. They generally don’t provide medical advice. “However, we are responsible for making sure our patients and their families are educated and aware, then assist with guidance on their path,” said Katie Costillo, BSW, CPPN, patient navigator and program manager with the Lupus Foundation of America, Heartland Region.
“Training and experience in engaging and building rapport is essential to assisting patients overcome obstacles that limit their access to healthcare,” she said. Narrowing down with patients the root causes of their barriers and then identifying appropriate and available community resources is key.
Studies have demonstrated the effectiveness of adding a navigator to a rheumatology patient’s care plan. In one study, a group of Boston researchers determined that navigators played a useful role in reducing adherence barriers to oral disease-modifying antirheumatic drugs. The navigators uncovered several concerns among 107 rheumatology patients, including fear of adverse events and medication effectiveness.
They also helped to facilitate patient-physician communication, developed strategies to improve medication adherence, and provided medication and diagnosis education. Patients reported satisfaction with the navigator experience.
A study Dr. Williams coauthored that examined behavioral interventions to support African American women with systemic lupus erythematosus found that patient navigator participants had superior coping scores, compared with those engaged in peer-to-peer methodology and patient support groups.
“We had a lot of success with the mentorship program, too,” Dr. Williams said. Navigator services, however, offer more one-on-one attention, “and it’s more tailored to what the person needs rather than the set curriculum that the mentors delivered to their mentees.”
Supporting Patients With Lupus
Ideally, navigators should be able to relate to patients and know what they’re going through, Dr. Williams said. This is someone whom the patient can trust and depend on. “That’s where the benefit of having someone who is also a patient lies because they’re ultimately relatable to other patients. But different institutions have taken different approaches to this.”
Some programs focus on specific rheumatologic conditions. The Lupus Foundation of America, for example, established patient navigator programs to assist patients with lupus in four markets across the country.
The Heartland patient navigator program is available for all patients with lupus within its region, which includes Kansas, Missouri, and central and southern Illinois. As a navigator, Ms. Costillo has been assisting patients since 2022. In 2023, she began meeting with patients at the Washington University Lupus Clinic (WULC) in St. Louis, Missouri.
Navigators work directly with patients before and after their appointment to ensure follow-up and reduce missed appointments. “They help lupus patients connect with community services and overcoming barriers to access and care. The goal of this position is to improve overall disease management, which results in better health outcomes,” Ms. Costillo said.
Since its inception, the patient navigator program at WULC has shown a decrease in patient no-call no-shows and an increase in requests to reschedule as opposed to not showing up for their scheduled appointment, based on history.
Patients have reported fewer barriers to transportation and improvement in access to resources, support, and disease education. “Our patients have also stated [that] meeting with the navigator during their appointments has helped them to feel heard, understood, and supported,” Ms. Costillo said.
Navigator Work Is Not Without Challenges
A total of 90% of patients with lupus are women, and women of color are two to three times more likely to develop lupus in their lifetime.
“Based on socioeconomic statistics, lupus patients are in a demographic that is commonly underserved, underfunded, and often overlooked. Finding appropriate local community resources for a patient who must choose between feeding her family or paying for transportation to multiple physician appointments is a common problem,” Ms. Costillo said.
Much of the assistance that became available during the COVID pandemic is starting to disappear. “With the rising costs of daily living, we are having to find creative and alternative ways to break down barriers and find support to fill those gaps,” she continued.
Getting insurance coverage of patients is another challenge. Many patients with lupus will be prescribed a treatment that insurance refuses to cover even after the physician disputes it.
Additionally, many patients with lupus are unable to work to support their family. A majority who apply for Social Security Disability Insurance are denied on their first and second attempts, “requiring multiple hearings and pages of documentation from their physicians,” Ms. Costillo said.
Students Serve as Navigators
One inner-city program is seeking to increase access to healthcare services to patients with lupus and lupus nephritis in underserved communities. In 2021, SUNY Downstate Health Sciences University in New York City, in partnership with the Brooklyn Free Clinic and Brooklyn Health Disparities Center, launched a program to teach navigator skills to second-year medical students.
The students assist patients at the Arthritis Clinic at University Hospital at Downstate. “Many of our patients have either low medical literacy or difficulty with English. Many of them are immigrants,” said Ellen M. Ginzler, MD, MPH, SUNY Downstate’s professor emerita and former vice-chair for research and rheumatology division chief.
Dr. Ginzler sought out navigator candidates who showed a strong interest in working with underserved patients with complicated, severe disease who struggled with keeping appointments or adhering to medication regimens. The program also gave preference to students fluent in other languages such as Spanish.
All these efforts have generated improvements in care.
Assessing the program’s effectiveness in a cross-sectional study, Dr. Ginzler and colleagues reported that 94% of navigators were able to schedule appointments and 87% assisted with prescriptions. Navigators also had high success rates in answering medical questions, getting in touch with a patient’s doctor, and reminding patients of medical appointments.
Medical student Jeremy Wilson, a coauthor of the study, served as a navigator for a woman with lupus and scleroderma for many years, along with other comorbidities.
Mr. Wilson went above and beyond for this patient, helping to secure social services supports that included accompanying her to clinic visits and serving as her advocate. “She found an enormous difference in how she was treated when she went to these clinics because the doctors in those clinics took her much more seriously,” Dr. Ginzler said. Mr. Wilson ran interference to secure clinic appointments and worked with the patient’s rheumatology fellow in the clinic to get approval for medications.
Mr. Wilson and the patient formed a great bond. “It not only helped the patient, but it helped Jeremy tremendously in terms of how he felt about his medical career,” Dr. Ginzler said.
The program has since expanded to include patients with other rheumatic diseases, such as rheumatoid arthritis and psoriatic arthritis, and also offers navigator services in dermatology.
A total of 21 students to date have completed the second year of the program. “We’ve just selected eight more,” Dr. Ginzler said. Some of the students continue to do the program in their third or even fourth year as they’re applying for residencies.
A student-run, unpublished survey of nine students in the SUNY program found that all nine reported high confidence in identifying social factors that impact patient health and well-being, compared with four who reported high confidence prior to starting the program. “Additionally, students reported increased confidence in providing comprehensive care in rheumatology and dermatology, and interdisciplinary collaboration,” study author Alejandra K. Moncayo, MPH, and colleagues wrote.
When Navigators Go Virtual
Remission Medical offers its navigator service through its own standalone virtual clinic.
Pain associated with rheumatologic conditions increases the urgency to see a doctor. The goal of the virtual RemissionNavigator program is to meet rheumatology patients where they live, to bridge care gaps and reduce wait times, said Mr. Wehman.
RemissionNavigator accomplishes this through video visits and unlimited texting to its network of board-certified rheumatologists or rheumatology-focused advanced practice providers. Experts can answer questions about why labs are ordered, why a patient may have received a certain diagnosis, or provide detailed explanations of a rheumatic condition.
“There are instances where improvement for the patient means waiting a couple days for us versus 45 days for their brick-and-mortar choice,” Mr. Wehman said.
The program currently has 36 subscribers to Remission’s services, which include navigation. “We have 15 providers in a blend of employed and contracted relationships with Remission,” Mr. Wehman said.
Even in its infancy, the navigator program has produced some success stories. “We had a patient tell us that thanks to us, he was seen faster, found relief immediately through our diagnosis and prescription of methotrexate, felt better at work, lost weight, and was happier in general,” Mr. Wehman said.
Another patient was making monthly, 90-minute trips to Richmond for infusion services. Through the virtual program’s assistance, she is now receiving care from home and can get her monthly infusions at a local clinic.
Ultimately, the goal is to help rheumatology move into an era of value-based care where the transition from fee-for-service to per patient will enable optimized care models and better accessibility, Mr. Wehman said. “It will not happen overnight, but every day we work toward this future.”
VA Targets Rheumatology Care
The Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) has also explored the use of navigator services in rheumatology, including virtual services.
VA uses an integrated, interdisciplinary model that manages each veteran’s individual healthcare needs through a coordinated effort among providers, nurses, social workers, pharmacists, and other health professionals, according to VA press secretary Terrence Hayes.
Care coordination may include supporting scheduling appointments, managing chronic conditions, and coordinating care across different medical departments. “This coordination is particularly important in managing complex rheumatologic conditions, where multiple providers may be involved,” Mr. Hayes said.
Additionally, VA has launched a national telerheumatology initiative to improve access to rheumatology providers in rural areas. The initiative will assist veterans in understanding the telehealth system, navigating appointments, and ensuring they have the necessary technology for virtual consultations.
“It will also facilitate communication between rheumatologists, primary care providers, and other specialists, ensuring that all team members are aligned in their approach to the veteran’s care,” Mr. Hayes said.
Who Will Take Advantage of New Codes?
Currently, Remission Medical operates on a cash-pay model, but the company intends to transition to insurance-based coverage in 2025.
Remission Medical also partners directly with preexisting healthcare systems and clinics such as Sentara Health and OrthoVirginia, where a PIN program, powered by Remission Medical’s virtual rheumatology network, may be explored as well.
The company offers its partners synchronous virtual visits and e-consults. It’s likely that these larger organizations will explore coverage for navigator services for Medicare and private insurance. “We can be there to support them as they decide to implement this,” Mr. Wehman said.
Taking advantage of CMS’s navigator PIN codes is an eventual goal. Remission Medical has not submitted the codes yet, “but we do intend to as we continue to grow our membership count,” Mr. Wehman said. “We hope to provide coverage for most of the US and submit the codes to reimbursement by early to mid-2025.”
In terms of reimbursement, the VA operates under a different payment model than Medicare or private insurance, focusing on providing integrated care within the VA system rather than reimbursing for specific services such as patient navigation.
While the SUNY clinic takes care of Medicare patients, it’s unlikely that the new CMS codes for navigators would apply to medical students. Students get paid a monthly stipend for doing navigator work. “There’s a policy about what students can get paid, and how many hours they can work,” Dr. Ginzler clarified.
The SUNY Downstate and Lupus Foundation navigator programs rely on grants to sustain their services. Aurinia Pharmaceuticals has funded both programs, and the SUNY program received an additional grant from Janssen to expand its offerings.
Because it’s grant funded, the navigator position at the Lupus Foundation does not bill patient insurance, Ms. Costillo explained.
Navigator Work Requires Training
Before they start working with patients, navigators often go through a vetting or training process. At Remission Medical, a clinical leadership team does a synchronous interview, background check, and CV review of its potential navigators.
Even before she became a navigator, Ms. Costillo had a strong baseline education in this work. She has a bachelor’s degree in social work and 15 years of experience in social services working with disabled, vulnerable, and underserved populations. Some of her fellow navigators at the Lupus Foundation of America also have degrees in social work.
Ms. Costillo underwent training with the Patient-Centered Education & Research Institute to become a certified professional patient navigator. Her name is on the national registry. The curriculum covered various aspects of medical care such as patient and care team interactions and communications, health and clinical knowledge, patient care coordination and resources, and using evidence-based approaches.
“For our lupus patients, it is essential that navigators understand the disease and the impact on patients and families, treatments available and those in the pipelines, and also the ins and outs of various insurance options,” Ms. Costillo said.
Mr. Wehman, Dr. Williams, and Ms. Costillo reported no disclosures. Dr. Ginzler has been a consultant for Aurinia Pharmaceuticals.
A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.
When a large rheumatology clinic in Richmond, Virginia, heard that Medicare would be reimbursing patient navigators, they decided to launch their own virtual navigator program.
“We read about it and felt like it was the perfect representation of what we were already trying to do,” said Blake Wehman, founder and CEO of Remission Medical, which offers virtual diagnosis and longitudinal care in rheumatology.
Mr. Wehman has plans to start submitting for these principal illness navigation (PIN) codes in 2025.
The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) in 2024 began paying navigators who assist Medicare patients with high-risk conditions, which could include rheumatologic diseases. “The codes are not limited to a specific set of diagnoses; rather, the definition of a serious, high-risk condition is dependent on clinical judgment,” the agency clarified.
CMS established this provision in the CY 2024 Physician Fee Schedule final rule.
Reimbursing patient navigators is long overdue, noted Edith Williams, PhD, MS, director of the Center for Community Health and Prevention and founding director of the Office of Health Equity Research at the University of Rochester in New York. “It’s something our patients need. It’s something that the science is telling us can impact outcomes as an adjunct to clinical care,” she said.
Dr. Williams said the new CMS codes “got our departments talking about what this policy is and how it would translate into patient care.”
The codes apply when navigators are assigned to support patients with high-risk conditions who need assistance connecting with clinical and other resources, including any unmet social determinants of health needs, or in diagnosis or treatment of their medical problems.
“Having a navigator by their side to help get through all the clinical and administrative challenges gives people an advocate and a partner who is with them and their families every step of the way to help make the journey easier,” said a CMS spokesperson.
Not all navigator programs may qualify for the new codes. Some are supported by grants and don’t bill patient insurance. However, they all share a common goal: to guide patients through the healthcare continuum and assist with appointments and medication adherence.
Identifying ‘Root Causes’ of Barriers
Navigators represent a wide variety of backgrounds, ranging from healthcare professionals to students or even patients themselves. They generally don’t provide medical advice. “However, we are responsible for making sure our patients and their families are educated and aware, then assist with guidance on their path,” said Katie Costillo, BSW, CPPN, patient navigator and program manager with the Lupus Foundation of America, Heartland Region.
“Training and experience in engaging and building rapport is essential to assisting patients overcome obstacles that limit their access to healthcare,” she said. Narrowing down with patients the root causes of their barriers and then identifying appropriate and available community resources is key.
Studies have demonstrated the effectiveness of adding a navigator to a rheumatology patient’s care plan. In one study, a group of Boston researchers determined that navigators played a useful role in reducing adherence barriers to oral disease-modifying antirheumatic drugs. The navigators uncovered several concerns among 107 rheumatology patients, including fear of adverse events and medication effectiveness.
They also helped to facilitate patient-physician communication, developed strategies to improve medication adherence, and provided medication and diagnosis education. Patients reported satisfaction with the navigator experience.
A study Dr. Williams coauthored that examined behavioral interventions to support African American women with systemic lupus erythematosus found that patient navigator participants had superior coping scores, compared with those engaged in peer-to-peer methodology and patient support groups.
“We had a lot of success with the mentorship program, too,” Dr. Williams said. Navigator services, however, offer more one-on-one attention, “and it’s more tailored to what the person needs rather than the set curriculum that the mentors delivered to their mentees.”
Supporting Patients With Lupus
Ideally, navigators should be able to relate to patients and know what they’re going through, Dr. Williams said. This is someone whom the patient can trust and depend on. “That’s where the benefit of having someone who is also a patient lies because they’re ultimately relatable to other patients. But different institutions have taken different approaches to this.”
Some programs focus on specific rheumatologic conditions. The Lupus Foundation of America, for example, established patient navigator programs to assist patients with lupus in four markets across the country.
The Heartland patient navigator program is available for all patients with lupus within its region, which includes Kansas, Missouri, and central and southern Illinois. As a navigator, Ms. Costillo has been assisting patients since 2022. In 2023, she began meeting with patients at the Washington University Lupus Clinic (WULC) in St. Louis, Missouri.
Navigators work directly with patients before and after their appointment to ensure follow-up and reduce missed appointments. “They help lupus patients connect with community services and overcoming barriers to access and care. The goal of this position is to improve overall disease management, which results in better health outcomes,” Ms. Costillo said.
Since its inception, the patient navigator program at WULC has shown a decrease in patient no-call no-shows and an increase in requests to reschedule as opposed to not showing up for their scheduled appointment, based on history.
Patients have reported fewer barriers to transportation and improvement in access to resources, support, and disease education. “Our patients have also stated [that] meeting with the navigator during their appointments has helped them to feel heard, understood, and supported,” Ms. Costillo said.
Navigator Work Is Not Without Challenges
A total of 90% of patients with lupus are women, and women of color are two to three times more likely to develop lupus in their lifetime.
“Based on socioeconomic statistics, lupus patients are in a demographic that is commonly underserved, underfunded, and often overlooked. Finding appropriate local community resources for a patient who must choose between feeding her family or paying for transportation to multiple physician appointments is a common problem,” Ms. Costillo said.
Much of the assistance that became available during the COVID pandemic is starting to disappear. “With the rising costs of daily living, we are having to find creative and alternative ways to break down barriers and find support to fill those gaps,” she continued.
Getting insurance coverage of patients is another challenge. Many patients with lupus will be prescribed a treatment that insurance refuses to cover even after the physician disputes it.
Additionally, many patients with lupus are unable to work to support their family. A majority who apply for Social Security Disability Insurance are denied on their first and second attempts, “requiring multiple hearings and pages of documentation from their physicians,” Ms. Costillo said.
Students Serve as Navigators
One inner-city program is seeking to increase access to healthcare services to patients with lupus and lupus nephritis in underserved communities. In 2021, SUNY Downstate Health Sciences University in New York City, in partnership with the Brooklyn Free Clinic and Brooklyn Health Disparities Center, launched a program to teach navigator skills to second-year medical students.
The students assist patients at the Arthritis Clinic at University Hospital at Downstate. “Many of our patients have either low medical literacy or difficulty with English. Many of them are immigrants,” said Ellen M. Ginzler, MD, MPH, SUNY Downstate’s professor emerita and former vice-chair for research and rheumatology division chief.
Dr. Ginzler sought out navigator candidates who showed a strong interest in working with underserved patients with complicated, severe disease who struggled with keeping appointments or adhering to medication regimens. The program also gave preference to students fluent in other languages such as Spanish.
All these efforts have generated improvements in care.
Assessing the program’s effectiveness in a cross-sectional study, Dr. Ginzler and colleagues reported that 94% of navigators were able to schedule appointments and 87% assisted with prescriptions. Navigators also had high success rates in answering medical questions, getting in touch with a patient’s doctor, and reminding patients of medical appointments.
Medical student Jeremy Wilson, a coauthor of the study, served as a navigator for a woman with lupus and scleroderma for many years, along with other comorbidities.
Mr. Wilson went above and beyond for this patient, helping to secure social services supports that included accompanying her to clinic visits and serving as her advocate. “She found an enormous difference in how she was treated when she went to these clinics because the doctors in those clinics took her much more seriously,” Dr. Ginzler said. Mr. Wilson ran interference to secure clinic appointments and worked with the patient’s rheumatology fellow in the clinic to get approval for medications.
Mr. Wilson and the patient formed a great bond. “It not only helped the patient, but it helped Jeremy tremendously in terms of how he felt about his medical career,” Dr. Ginzler said.
The program has since expanded to include patients with other rheumatic diseases, such as rheumatoid arthritis and psoriatic arthritis, and also offers navigator services in dermatology.
A total of 21 students to date have completed the second year of the program. “We’ve just selected eight more,” Dr. Ginzler said. Some of the students continue to do the program in their third or even fourth year as they’re applying for residencies.
A student-run, unpublished survey of nine students in the SUNY program found that all nine reported high confidence in identifying social factors that impact patient health and well-being, compared with four who reported high confidence prior to starting the program. “Additionally, students reported increased confidence in providing comprehensive care in rheumatology and dermatology, and interdisciplinary collaboration,” study author Alejandra K. Moncayo, MPH, and colleagues wrote.
When Navigators Go Virtual
Remission Medical offers its navigator service through its own standalone virtual clinic.
Pain associated with rheumatologic conditions increases the urgency to see a doctor. The goal of the virtual RemissionNavigator program is to meet rheumatology patients where they live, to bridge care gaps and reduce wait times, said Mr. Wehman.
RemissionNavigator accomplishes this through video visits and unlimited texting to its network of board-certified rheumatologists or rheumatology-focused advanced practice providers. Experts can answer questions about why labs are ordered, why a patient may have received a certain diagnosis, or provide detailed explanations of a rheumatic condition.
“There are instances where improvement for the patient means waiting a couple days for us versus 45 days for their brick-and-mortar choice,” Mr. Wehman said.
The program currently has 36 subscribers to Remission’s services, which include navigation. “We have 15 providers in a blend of employed and contracted relationships with Remission,” Mr. Wehman said.
Even in its infancy, the navigator program has produced some success stories. “We had a patient tell us that thanks to us, he was seen faster, found relief immediately through our diagnosis and prescription of methotrexate, felt better at work, lost weight, and was happier in general,” Mr. Wehman said.
Another patient was making monthly, 90-minute trips to Richmond for infusion services. Through the virtual program’s assistance, she is now receiving care from home and can get her monthly infusions at a local clinic.
Ultimately, the goal is to help rheumatology move into an era of value-based care where the transition from fee-for-service to per patient will enable optimized care models and better accessibility, Mr. Wehman said. “It will not happen overnight, but every day we work toward this future.”
VA Targets Rheumatology Care
The Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) has also explored the use of navigator services in rheumatology, including virtual services.
VA uses an integrated, interdisciplinary model that manages each veteran’s individual healthcare needs through a coordinated effort among providers, nurses, social workers, pharmacists, and other health professionals, according to VA press secretary Terrence Hayes.
Care coordination may include supporting scheduling appointments, managing chronic conditions, and coordinating care across different medical departments. “This coordination is particularly important in managing complex rheumatologic conditions, where multiple providers may be involved,” Mr. Hayes said.
Additionally, VA has launched a national telerheumatology initiative to improve access to rheumatology providers in rural areas. The initiative will assist veterans in understanding the telehealth system, navigating appointments, and ensuring they have the necessary technology for virtual consultations.
“It will also facilitate communication between rheumatologists, primary care providers, and other specialists, ensuring that all team members are aligned in their approach to the veteran’s care,” Mr. Hayes said.
Who Will Take Advantage of New Codes?
Currently, Remission Medical operates on a cash-pay model, but the company intends to transition to insurance-based coverage in 2025.
Remission Medical also partners directly with preexisting healthcare systems and clinics such as Sentara Health and OrthoVirginia, where a PIN program, powered by Remission Medical’s virtual rheumatology network, may be explored as well.
The company offers its partners synchronous virtual visits and e-consults. It’s likely that these larger organizations will explore coverage for navigator services for Medicare and private insurance. “We can be there to support them as they decide to implement this,” Mr. Wehman said.
Taking advantage of CMS’s navigator PIN codes is an eventual goal. Remission Medical has not submitted the codes yet, “but we do intend to as we continue to grow our membership count,” Mr. Wehman said. “We hope to provide coverage for most of the US and submit the codes to reimbursement by early to mid-2025.”
In terms of reimbursement, the VA operates under a different payment model than Medicare or private insurance, focusing on providing integrated care within the VA system rather than reimbursing for specific services such as patient navigation.
While the SUNY clinic takes care of Medicare patients, it’s unlikely that the new CMS codes for navigators would apply to medical students. Students get paid a monthly stipend for doing navigator work. “There’s a policy about what students can get paid, and how many hours they can work,” Dr. Ginzler clarified.
The SUNY Downstate and Lupus Foundation navigator programs rely on grants to sustain their services. Aurinia Pharmaceuticals has funded both programs, and the SUNY program received an additional grant from Janssen to expand its offerings.
Because it’s grant funded, the navigator position at the Lupus Foundation does not bill patient insurance, Ms. Costillo explained.
Navigator Work Requires Training
Before they start working with patients, navigators often go through a vetting or training process. At Remission Medical, a clinical leadership team does a synchronous interview, background check, and CV review of its potential navigators.
Even before she became a navigator, Ms. Costillo had a strong baseline education in this work. She has a bachelor’s degree in social work and 15 years of experience in social services working with disabled, vulnerable, and underserved populations. Some of her fellow navigators at the Lupus Foundation of America also have degrees in social work.
Ms. Costillo underwent training with the Patient-Centered Education & Research Institute to become a certified professional patient navigator. Her name is on the national registry. The curriculum covered various aspects of medical care such as patient and care team interactions and communications, health and clinical knowledge, patient care coordination and resources, and using evidence-based approaches.
“For our lupus patients, it is essential that navigators understand the disease and the impact on patients and families, treatments available and those in the pipelines, and also the ins and outs of various insurance options,” Ms. Costillo said.
Mr. Wehman, Dr. Williams, and Ms. Costillo reported no disclosures. Dr. Ginzler has been a consultant for Aurinia Pharmaceuticals.
A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.
Obesity Is Not a Moral Failing, GI Physician Says
It takes a long time for some patients with obesity to acknowledge that they need help, said Dr. Laster, a bariatric endoscopist who specializes in gastroenterology, nutrition, and obesity medicine at Gut Theory Total Digestive Care, and Georgetown University Hospital in Washington. “If somebody has high blood pressure or has a cut or has chest pain, you don’t wait for things. You would go seek help immediately. I wish more patients reached out sooner and didn’t struggle.”
Another big challenge is making sure patients have insurance coverage for things like medications, surgery, and bariatric endoscopy, she added.
Her response: education and advocacy. “I’m giving as many talks as I can to fellows, creating courses for residents and fellows and medical students” to change the way physicians talk about obesity and excess weight, she said. Patients need to understand that physicians care about them, that “we’re not judging and we’re changing that perspective.”
Dr. Laster is also working with members of Congress to get bills passed for coverage of obesity medication and procedures. In an interview with GI & Hepatology News, she spoke more about the intersection between nutrition, medicine and bariatric procedures and the importance of offering patients multiple solutions.
Q: Why did you choose GI?
It allowed me a little bit of everything. You have clinic, where you can really interact with patients and get to the root of their problem. You have preventative care with routine colonoscopies and upper endoscopies to prevent for cancer. But then you also have fun stuff — which my mom told me to stop saying out loud — ‘bleeders’ and acute things that you get to fix immediately. So, you get the adrenaline rush too. I like it because you get the best of all worlds and it’s really hard to get bored.
Q: How did you become interested in nutrition and bariatric endoscopy?
My parents had a garden and never let us eat processed foods. In residency, I kept seeing the same medical problems over and over again. Everybody had high blood pressure, high cholesterol, and diabetes. Then in GI clinic, everybody had abdominal pain, bloating, constipation, heartburn, and a million GI appointments for these same things. Everyone’s upper endoscopy or colonoscopy was negative. Something else had to be going on.
And that’s sort of where it came from; figuring out the common denominator. It had to be what people were eating. There’s also the prevalence of patients with obesity going up every single year. Correlating all these other medical problems with people’s diets led me down the rabbit hole of: What else can we be doing?
Most people don’t want to undergo surgery. Only 2% of people eligible for surgery actually do it, even though it works. The reasons are because it’s invasive or there’s shame behind it. Bariatric endoscopy is another option that’s out here, that’s less invasive. I’m an endoscopist and gastroenterologist. I should be able to offer all those things and I should know more about nutrition. We don’t talk about it enough.
Q: Do you think more GI doctors should become better educated about nutrition?
100%. Every patient I see has seen a GI doctor before and says, ‘No one has ever told me that if I have carbonated beverages and cheese every day, I’m going to be bloated and constipated.’ And that shouldn’t be the case.
Q: Why do you think that more GI doctors don’t get the education on nutrition during their medical training?
I think it’s our healthcare system. It’s very much focused on secondary treatment rather than preventative care. There’s no emphasis on preventing things from happening.
We’re really good at reactionary medicine. People who have an ulcer, big polyps and colon cancer, esophageal cancer — we do those things really well. But I think because there’s no ICD-10 codes for preventive care via nutrition education, and no good reimbursement, then there’s no incentive for hospital systems to pay for these things. It’s a system based on RVUs (relative value units) and numbers. That’s been our trajectory. We’ve been so focused on reactionary medicine rather than saying, ‘Okay, let’s stop this from happening.’
We just didn’t talk about nutrition in medical school, in residency, or in fellowship. It was looked at as a soft science. When I was in school, people would also say, ‘No one’s going to change. So it’s a waste of your time essentially to talk to people about making dietary changes.’ I feel like if you give people the opportunity, you have to give them the chance. You can’t just write everybody off. Some people won’t change, but that’s okay. They should at least have the opportunity to do so.
Q: How do you determine whether a patient is a good candidate for bariatric surgery?
It’s based on the guidelines: If they meet the BMI requirements, if they have obesity-associated comorbidities, their risk for surgery is low. But it’s also whether they want to do it or not. A patient has to be in the mindset and be ready for it. They need to want to have surgery or bariatric endoscopy, or to use medications, or start to make a change. Some people aren’t there yet — that preemptive stage of making a change. They want the solution, but they’re not ready to do that legwork yet.
And all of it is work. I tell patients, ‘Whether it’s medication or bariatric endoscopy or bariatric surgery, you still have work to do. None of it is going to just magically happen where you could just continue to do the same thing you’re doing now and you’re going to lose weight and keep it off.’
Q: What advances in obesity prevention are you excited about?
I’m excited that bariatric endoscopy came about in the first place, because in every other field there are less invasive approaches that have become available. I’m also excited about the emergence of weight loss medication, like GLP-1s. I think they are a tool that we need.
Q: Do you think the weight loss medications may negate the need for surgery?
I don’t think they necessarily reduce the need for surgery. There’s still a lot we don’t know about why they work in some patients and why they don’t work in others.
Some of our colleagues have come up with phenotypes and blood tests so we can better understand which things will work in different patients. Surgery doesn’t work for some patients. People may need a combination of both after they reach a plateau. I’m excited that people see this as something that we should be researching and putting more effort into — that obesity isn’t a disease of moral failure, that people with excess weight just need to ‘move more’ or ‘eat less’ and it’s their fault. I’m glad people are starting to understand that.
Q: What teacher or mentor had the greatest impact on you?
Probably two. One of them is Andrea E Reid, MD, MPH, a dean of medicine at Harvard. She gives you such motivation to achieve things, no matter how big your idea is or how crazy it may seem. If you have something that you think is important, you go after it. Another person is Christopher C. Thompson, MD, at Brigham and Women’s Hospital, the father of bariatric endoscopy in a sense. He embodies what Dr. Reid talks about: crazy big ideas. And he goes after them and he succeeds. Having him push me and giving me that type of encouragement was invaluable.
Q: Describe how you would spend a free Saturday afternoon.
Every Saturday is yoga or some type of movement. Spending some time outside doing something, whether it’s messing around with plants that I’m not very good at, or going for a walk.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Text
Favorite city in U.S. besides the one you live in?
New York
Favorite breakfast?
Avocado toast
Place you most want to travel to?
Istanbul
Favorite season?
Fall
Favorite ice cream flavor?
Raspberry sorbet
How many cups of coffee do you drink per day?
One
Best place you ever went on vacation?
Greece
If you weren’t a gastroenterologist, what would you be?
Own a clothing store
Favorite type of music?
Old school R&B
Favorite movie genre?
Romantic comedy or drama
Cat person or dog person?
Dog
Favorite sport?
Football
Favorite holiday?
Christmas
Optimist or pessimist?
Optimist
It takes a long time for some patients with obesity to acknowledge that they need help, said Dr. Laster, a bariatric endoscopist who specializes in gastroenterology, nutrition, and obesity medicine at Gut Theory Total Digestive Care, and Georgetown University Hospital in Washington. “If somebody has high blood pressure or has a cut or has chest pain, you don’t wait for things. You would go seek help immediately. I wish more patients reached out sooner and didn’t struggle.”
Another big challenge is making sure patients have insurance coverage for things like medications, surgery, and bariatric endoscopy, she added.
Her response: education and advocacy. “I’m giving as many talks as I can to fellows, creating courses for residents and fellows and medical students” to change the way physicians talk about obesity and excess weight, she said. Patients need to understand that physicians care about them, that “we’re not judging and we’re changing that perspective.”
Dr. Laster is also working with members of Congress to get bills passed for coverage of obesity medication and procedures. In an interview with GI & Hepatology News, she spoke more about the intersection between nutrition, medicine and bariatric procedures and the importance of offering patients multiple solutions.
Q: Why did you choose GI?
It allowed me a little bit of everything. You have clinic, where you can really interact with patients and get to the root of their problem. You have preventative care with routine colonoscopies and upper endoscopies to prevent for cancer. But then you also have fun stuff — which my mom told me to stop saying out loud — ‘bleeders’ and acute things that you get to fix immediately. So, you get the adrenaline rush too. I like it because you get the best of all worlds and it’s really hard to get bored.
Q: How did you become interested in nutrition and bariatric endoscopy?
My parents had a garden and never let us eat processed foods. In residency, I kept seeing the same medical problems over and over again. Everybody had high blood pressure, high cholesterol, and diabetes. Then in GI clinic, everybody had abdominal pain, bloating, constipation, heartburn, and a million GI appointments for these same things. Everyone’s upper endoscopy or colonoscopy was negative. Something else had to be going on.
And that’s sort of where it came from; figuring out the common denominator. It had to be what people were eating. There’s also the prevalence of patients with obesity going up every single year. Correlating all these other medical problems with people’s diets led me down the rabbit hole of: What else can we be doing?
Most people don’t want to undergo surgery. Only 2% of people eligible for surgery actually do it, even though it works. The reasons are because it’s invasive or there’s shame behind it. Bariatric endoscopy is another option that’s out here, that’s less invasive. I’m an endoscopist and gastroenterologist. I should be able to offer all those things and I should know more about nutrition. We don’t talk about it enough.
Q: Do you think more GI doctors should become better educated about nutrition?
100%. Every patient I see has seen a GI doctor before and says, ‘No one has ever told me that if I have carbonated beverages and cheese every day, I’m going to be bloated and constipated.’ And that shouldn’t be the case.
Q: Why do you think that more GI doctors don’t get the education on nutrition during their medical training?
I think it’s our healthcare system. It’s very much focused on secondary treatment rather than preventative care. There’s no emphasis on preventing things from happening.
We’re really good at reactionary medicine. People who have an ulcer, big polyps and colon cancer, esophageal cancer — we do those things really well. But I think because there’s no ICD-10 codes for preventive care via nutrition education, and no good reimbursement, then there’s no incentive for hospital systems to pay for these things. It’s a system based on RVUs (relative value units) and numbers. That’s been our trajectory. We’ve been so focused on reactionary medicine rather than saying, ‘Okay, let’s stop this from happening.’
We just didn’t talk about nutrition in medical school, in residency, or in fellowship. It was looked at as a soft science. When I was in school, people would also say, ‘No one’s going to change. So it’s a waste of your time essentially to talk to people about making dietary changes.’ I feel like if you give people the opportunity, you have to give them the chance. You can’t just write everybody off. Some people won’t change, but that’s okay. They should at least have the opportunity to do so.
Q: How do you determine whether a patient is a good candidate for bariatric surgery?
It’s based on the guidelines: If they meet the BMI requirements, if they have obesity-associated comorbidities, their risk for surgery is low. But it’s also whether they want to do it or not. A patient has to be in the mindset and be ready for it. They need to want to have surgery or bariatric endoscopy, or to use medications, or start to make a change. Some people aren’t there yet — that preemptive stage of making a change. They want the solution, but they’re not ready to do that legwork yet.
And all of it is work. I tell patients, ‘Whether it’s medication or bariatric endoscopy or bariatric surgery, you still have work to do. None of it is going to just magically happen where you could just continue to do the same thing you’re doing now and you’re going to lose weight and keep it off.’
Q: What advances in obesity prevention are you excited about?
I’m excited that bariatric endoscopy came about in the first place, because in every other field there are less invasive approaches that have become available. I’m also excited about the emergence of weight loss medication, like GLP-1s. I think they are a tool that we need.
Q: Do you think the weight loss medications may negate the need for surgery?
I don’t think they necessarily reduce the need for surgery. There’s still a lot we don’t know about why they work in some patients and why they don’t work in others.
Some of our colleagues have come up with phenotypes and blood tests so we can better understand which things will work in different patients. Surgery doesn’t work for some patients. People may need a combination of both after they reach a plateau. I’m excited that people see this as something that we should be researching and putting more effort into — that obesity isn’t a disease of moral failure, that people with excess weight just need to ‘move more’ or ‘eat less’ and it’s their fault. I’m glad people are starting to understand that.
Q: What teacher or mentor had the greatest impact on you?
Probably two. One of them is Andrea E Reid, MD, MPH, a dean of medicine at Harvard. She gives you such motivation to achieve things, no matter how big your idea is or how crazy it may seem. If you have something that you think is important, you go after it. Another person is Christopher C. Thompson, MD, at Brigham and Women’s Hospital, the father of bariatric endoscopy in a sense. He embodies what Dr. Reid talks about: crazy big ideas. And he goes after them and he succeeds. Having him push me and giving me that type of encouragement was invaluable.
Q: Describe how you would spend a free Saturday afternoon.
Every Saturday is yoga or some type of movement. Spending some time outside doing something, whether it’s messing around with plants that I’m not very good at, or going for a walk.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Text
Favorite city in U.S. besides the one you live in?
New York
Favorite breakfast?
Avocado toast
Place you most want to travel to?
Istanbul
Favorite season?
Fall
Favorite ice cream flavor?
Raspberry sorbet
How many cups of coffee do you drink per day?
One
Best place you ever went on vacation?
Greece
If you weren’t a gastroenterologist, what would you be?
Own a clothing store
Favorite type of music?
Old school R&B
Favorite movie genre?
Romantic comedy or drama
Cat person or dog person?
Dog
Favorite sport?
Football
Favorite holiday?
Christmas
Optimist or pessimist?
Optimist
It takes a long time for some patients with obesity to acknowledge that they need help, said Dr. Laster, a bariatric endoscopist who specializes in gastroenterology, nutrition, and obesity medicine at Gut Theory Total Digestive Care, and Georgetown University Hospital in Washington. “If somebody has high blood pressure or has a cut or has chest pain, you don’t wait for things. You would go seek help immediately. I wish more patients reached out sooner and didn’t struggle.”
Another big challenge is making sure patients have insurance coverage for things like medications, surgery, and bariatric endoscopy, she added.
Her response: education and advocacy. “I’m giving as many talks as I can to fellows, creating courses for residents and fellows and medical students” to change the way physicians talk about obesity and excess weight, she said. Patients need to understand that physicians care about them, that “we’re not judging and we’re changing that perspective.”
Dr. Laster is also working with members of Congress to get bills passed for coverage of obesity medication and procedures. In an interview with GI & Hepatology News, she spoke more about the intersection between nutrition, medicine and bariatric procedures and the importance of offering patients multiple solutions.
Q: Why did you choose GI?
It allowed me a little bit of everything. You have clinic, where you can really interact with patients and get to the root of their problem. You have preventative care with routine colonoscopies and upper endoscopies to prevent for cancer. But then you also have fun stuff — which my mom told me to stop saying out loud — ‘bleeders’ and acute things that you get to fix immediately. So, you get the adrenaline rush too. I like it because you get the best of all worlds and it’s really hard to get bored.
Q: How did you become interested in nutrition and bariatric endoscopy?
My parents had a garden and never let us eat processed foods. In residency, I kept seeing the same medical problems over and over again. Everybody had high blood pressure, high cholesterol, and diabetes. Then in GI clinic, everybody had abdominal pain, bloating, constipation, heartburn, and a million GI appointments for these same things. Everyone’s upper endoscopy or colonoscopy was negative. Something else had to be going on.
And that’s sort of where it came from; figuring out the common denominator. It had to be what people were eating. There’s also the prevalence of patients with obesity going up every single year. Correlating all these other medical problems with people’s diets led me down the rabbit hole of: What else can we be doing?
Most people don’t want to undergo surgery. Only 2% of people eligible for surgery actually do it, even though it works. The reasons are because it’s invasive or there’s shame behind it. Bariatric endoscopy is another option that’s out here, that’s less invasive. I’m an endoscopist and gastroenterologist. I should be able to offer all those things and I should know more about nutrition. We don’t talk about it enough.
Q: Do you think more GI doctors should become better educated about nutrition?
100%. Every patient I see has seen a GI doctor before and says, ‘No one has ever told me that if I have carbonated beverages and cheese every day, I’m going to be bloated and constipated.’ And that shouldn’t be the case.
Q: Why do you think that more GI doctors don’t get the education on nutrition during their medical training?
I think it’s our healthcare system. It’s very much focused on secondary treatment rather than preventative care. There’s no emphasis on preventing things from happening.
We’re really good at reactionary medicine. People who have an ulcer, big polyps and colon cancer, esophageal cancer — we do those things really well. But I think because there’s no ICD-10 codes for preventive care via nutrition education, and no good reimbursement, then there’s no incentive for hospital systems to pay for these things. It’s a system based on RVUs (relative value units) and numbers. That’s been our trajectory. We’ve been so focused on reactionary medicine rather than saying, ‘Okay, let’s stop this from happening.’
We just didn’t talk about nutrition in medical school, in residency, or in fellowship. It was looked at as a soft science. When I was in school, people would also say, ‘No one’s going to change. So it’s a waste of your time essentially to talk to people about making dietary changes.’ I feel like if you give people the opportunity, you have to give them the chance. You can’t just write everybody off. Some people won’t change, but that’s okay. They should at least have the opportunity to do so.
Q: How do you determine whether a patient is a good candidate for bariatric surgery?
It’s based on the guidelines: If they meet the BMI requirements, if they have obesity-associated comorbidities, their risk for surgery is low. But it’s also whether they want to do it or not. A patient has to be in the mindset and be ready for it. They need to want to have surgery or bariatric endoscopy, or to use medications, or start to make a change. Some people aren’t there yet — that preemptive stage of making a change. They want the solution, but they’re not ready to do that legwork yet.
And all of it is work. I tell patients, ‘Whether it’s medication or bariatric endoscopy or bariatric surgery, you still have work to do. None of it is going to just magically happen where you could just continue to do the same thing you’re doing now and you’re going to lose weight and keep it off.’
Q: What advances in obesity prevention are you excited about?
I’m excited that bariatric endoscopy came about in the first place, because in every other field there are less invasive approaches that have become available. I’m also excited about the emergence of weight loss medication, like GLP-1s. I think they are a tool that we need.
Q: Do you think the weight loss medications may negate the need for surgery?
I don’t think they necessarily reduce the need for surgery. There’s still a lot we don’t know about why they work in some patients and why they don’t work in others.
Some of our colleagues have come up with phenotypes and blood tests so we can better understand which things will work in different patients. Surgery doesn’t work for some patients. People may need a combination of both after they reach a plateau. I’m excited that people see this as something that we should be researching and putting more effort into — that obesity isn’t a disease of moral failure, that people with excess weight just need to ‘move more’ or ‘eat less’ and it’s their fault. I’m glad people are starting to understand that.
Q: What teacher or mentor had the greatest impact on you?
Probably two. One of them is Andrea E Reid, MD, MPH, a dean of medicine at Harvard. She gives you such motivation to achieve things, no matter how big your idea is or how crazy it may seem. If you have something that you think is important, you go after it. Another person is Christopher C. Thompson, MD, at Brigham and Women’s Hospital, the father of bariatric endoscopy in a sense. He embodies what Dr. Reid talks about: crazy big ideas. And he goes after them and he succeeds. Having him push me and giving me that type of encouragement was invaluable.
Q: Describe how you would spend a free Saturday afternoon.
Every Saturday is yoga or some type of movement. Spending some time outside doing something, whether it’s messing around with plants that I’m not very good at, or going for a walk.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Text
Favorite city in U.S. besides the one you live in?
New York
Favorite breakfast?
Avocado toast
Place you most want to travel to?
Istanbul
Favorite season?
Fall
Favorite ice cream flavor?
Raspberry sorbet
How many cups of coffee do you drink per day?
One
Best place you ever went on vacation?
Greece
If you weren’t a gastroenterologist, what would you be?
Own a clothing store
Favorite type of music?
Old school R&B
Favorite movie genre?
Romantic comedy or drama
Cat person or dog person?
Dog
Favorite sport?
Football
Favorite holiday?
Christmas
Optimist or pessimist?
Optimist
Rheumatologist Volunteers Make a Difference to Those in Need at Home and Overseas
As a resident, rheumatologist Daniel Albert, MD, did his first volunteer mission to Afghanistan. The clinic had one portable chest x-ray machine, and physicians could order a complete blood count but no other laboratory studies.
“We could do sputum stains, but that was about it. You had to use your clinical acumen and make decisions based on examining the patient and taking a history,” said Dr. Albert, a professor of medicine and pediatrics at the Geisel School of Medicine at Dartmouth, Hanover, and The Dartmouth Institute in Lebanon, both in New Hampshire. Such tasks can be difficult in a non–English-speaking country.
“There’s a language barrier no matter where you are,” Dr. Albert said.
In Nashville, Tennessee, James Gore, MD, had an epiphany about opening a free rheumatology clinic during a church service. His priest was discussing St. Sampson the Hospitable’s story and closed with “you don’t have to change the world. All you have to do is your little part,” Dr. Gore said. He knew he didn’t need much: a computer, a stethoscope, and a printer for prescriptions.
When his church expanded its building space, Dr. Gore took the opportunity to achieve his goal.
“I didn’t feel responsible for the clinic to succeed, but I did feel responsible to try my best,” he said. That was 14 years ago. To date, the monthly clinic has served 1124 patients representing 55 counties in Tennessee and several other patients from Kentucky.
Volunteer work is a juggling act. Dr. Gore divides his time between the clinic and his work as associate professor of clinical medicine at Vanderbilt University Medical Center (VUMC), also in Nashville.
Dr. Albert often gave up his vacation time and had to balance commitments with his own medical practice and family to do his overseas missions. In his view, it’s worth the extra time and effort.
“It makes you a better physician because you make reasonable decisions and conclusions based on the resources available. Various places had various limitations, but none of them had the kind of resources that we routinely avail ourselves of in the US,” he said.
Tennessee Clients Get Access to Care, Medications
In some parts of the United States, good rheumatology care is hard to come by. One in four people in Tennessee have no health insurance. There’s a big need for rheumatology care in the state, Dr. Gore said.
On the second Saturday of each month, he volunteers his services at the St. Sampson Medical Clinic at Holy Trinity Greek Orthodox Church, Nashville, Tennessee, from 9 AM to 4 PM, providing care for uninsured adult rheumatology patients.
Patients come by referral from a charity clinic or health department and appointment only. The clinic asks for a $10 payment for their visits. “If they can’t pay, we still see them. But we only take care of patients who don’t have insurance,” Dr. Gore said. Allowing patients to pay gives them an opportunity to show they are vested in their own care. Often, patients will donate extra in gratitude.
Dr. Gore, along with VUMC colleague and rheumatologist Narender Annapureddy, MD, and nurse practitioner Julie Barnes, treats a variety of rheumatic diseases. For Ms. Barnes, volunteering has many rewarding aspects, “as the patients would be unable to have the treatments they need without insurance,” she said.
“We have had patients waiting for many months or sometimes years and have not had a diagnosis, and in a short time, we have been able to diagnose and get them on specific treatment,” Dr. Annapureddy said.
Most people come in for rheumatoid arthritis (RA) and lupus and also positive antinuclear antibody tests. They also see patients with psoriatic arthritis, Sjögren’s disease, gout, scleroderma, Behçet disease, and leukocytoclastic vasculitis. On a typical clinic day, the team can treat up to 30-plus patients. The clinic recently expanded its services to include cardiology care, seeing about 10 patients each month.
Prior to St. Sampson, there were no volunteer clinics in Tennessee specifically dedicated to helping patients with rheumatologic disease. Untreated, these diseases may cause chronic, severe pain, lead to irreversible joint damage, and increase the risk for death.
Many patients have received medications such as adalimumab, etanercept, or tofacitinib for free. The drug companies will provide free medications, provided that they’re prescribed by a board-certified rheumatologist and the patient is uninsured and qualifies for the medication, Dr. Gore said.
Drugs like these can cost about $50,000 a year. “We have pharmacists that donate their time to help these patients get approved for those medicines,” Dr. Gore said. To date, more than 100 patients have received a biologic or targeted synthetic disease-modifying antirheumatic drug through the clinic.
The clinic has received more than $100,000 in donated professional fees, including $48,706 for consultations. Dr. Gore and colleagues relied on other volunteers to bring the clinic to life. He worked with his sister to develop an electronic medical record system that the clinic still uses today. “We did not buy expensive laptops or printers. I had a very generous volunteer, Damon Miltner, our IT guy, who set everything up to make our intranet secure,” he said.
The volunteer nurses, IT, and front desk all work together to make the clinic run efficiently, said Ms. Barnes, who also works as a nurse practitioner with Vanderbilt Rheumatology Cool Springs in Franklin, Tennessee. “We share a lunch together, all in a beautiful and holy church. I do not think of this as work, but as spending time with people who are appreciative and kind,” she said.
“It is amazing to see patients who are able to walk in by themselves after having used a cane for years,” Dr. Annapureddy said. “While doing this on weekends with young kids is challenging, having a supportive spouse who shares the same value makes it much easier to be able to do volunteer work.”
Working Outside Your Comfort Zone
Dr. Albert has traveled to all parts of the world to volunteer his services as a rheumatologist and general practitioner. This includes missions to Uganda, Rwanda, Ecuador, Peru, Nepal, and Borneo. He’s participated with several volunteer organizations, among them the International Student & Scholar Services program at the University of Pennsylvania, CARE, Global Volunteers, Project Amazonas, Asha Nepal, Health in Harmony, and several others.
Rheumatologists who volunteer in underdeveloped countries should be prepared to work outside of their specialty — and their comfort zone. In some instances, Dr. Albert took care of AIDS-related infectious diseases. “It’s not something I am particularly knowledgeable about, and I actually spent a fair amount of time reading about it before I went on the plane in order to get some comfort level.”
Dr. Albert often found himself doing more primary care and general pediatrics than rheumatology care. “I would see rheumatic conditions. But there’s not a lot of RA in developing countries, which is something that people have noted before. And the same goes for other autoimmune conditions. They’re just not that common.”
He did see a lot of septic arthritis and tuberculosis in Uganda. “We had a rheum clinic and saw a mixture of the consequences of septic arthritis and also a few RA and lupus patients.”
Limited resources are another thing to prepare for.
Whenever he traveled to a place that didn’t have a lot of resources, Dr. Albert would collect as many supplies as he could from the nearest hospital, pack them away, and try to get the supplies to the mission location.
Sometimes it worked out, and sometimes it didn’t, he said. “I probably had $10,000 worth of medical supplies when I went to Armenia, and American Airlines lost it. It ended up back in my apartment 3 months later. That was unfortunate because there was lot of good stuff there.”
He thought about FedEx-ing some supplies to a mission in Uganda, but it was astronomically expensive, so that didn’t work.
Luggage weight restrictions are another obstacle that sometimes requires a waiver. Dr. Albert once had to get the Red Cross to work with an airline to get a luggage waiver. “Other airlines were very good and didn’t have those kinds of restrictions. But most of the time I got some supplies to go with me, and sometimes that was a very helpful addition,” especially if the mission site was lacking in resources, he said.
When Charity Work Produces Success Stories
During one of his missions in Uganda with the University of Pennsylvania, Dr. Albert helped the Makerere University Medical School, Kampala, to establish a rheumatology clinic, which was affiliated with Mulago National Specialised Hospital. The clinic operated once a week for half a day, mostly treating patients with RA and lupus.
The mission also established an AIDS clinic. Many of the patients with musculoskeletal complaints also had HIV and were able to get antiretroviral drugs through the clinic, he said.
For Dr. Gore, seeing patients from more than half the counties in Tennessee was one of the clinic’s biggest accomplishments. “That was all through word of mouth,” he said.
In rheumatology, many patients may feel their condition is hopeless, Ms. Barnes noted. “There have been many patients that, through months of proper treatment, have normal lives. A high percentage would be disabled without the needed medical therapies.”
Dr. Gore has seen patients who literally couldn’t walk or had severe, painful psoriasis all over their body. The clinic would put them on medicine that would give them new life. The psoriasis would clear up, or their joints would heal, and they could walk again.
One of Dr. Gore’s patients, a woman in her mid-50s, got on an expensive medication that brought her arthritis into remission. She’s now able to care for her grandchildren.
The fact that the clinic, with the help of volunteer pharmacologists, can provide medications to enable patients to have a less destructive disease and improved quality of life “is a major reward,” Ms. Barnes said.
Balancing Your Priorities
Overseas missions can last for a few weeks to several months, depending on the mission, the organization, and the type of care involved.
Rheumatologists who want to volunteer need to do so in a way that doesn’t generate a lot of angst with supervisors or colleagues. Dr. Albert balanced this by keeping his missions reasonably short. “I would have someone cover my service. And since there’s reciprocity in the places I worked for, if they covered me for a month, I would cover them for a month, so it wasn’t a burden on anybody.”
“By and large, I used my vacation time to do it, and it does cost some money, but it’s a lot less than the cost of a typical vacation,” Dr. Albert said.
Volunteer work can also compete with family time. Dr. Albert ended up taking his family along on several of his missions to Ecuador and Uganda. He would tell the organization: “My family wants to come. Is there anything they can do while I’m working in the program? And they usually found an occupation.”
At St. Sampson, volunteering is also a family affair. “My wife acts as the administrator, so she’s the one that helps schedule patients and deals with a lot of the faxes.” It’s a big commitment for Dr. Gore’s family and for the church, which gives up a significant chunk of the building one Saturday a month.
“However, for us, I think that it’s a real manifestation of giving back and trying to help those in need and doing what we can do,” he said.
Volunteer Work Involves Prep Work
Establishing the St. Sampson clinic took some planning. Dr. Gore and colleagues had to fill out a 501(c)(3) application; establish a charter, bylaws, articles of incorporation, policies, and procedures; and obtain medical malpractice and general liability insurance.
The clinic was able to get financing from the Mid-South Chapter of the Lupus Foundation of America as well as in-kind donations from the church. “We’ve had a lot of different companies who were very generous in donating money and excited to help the clinic continue,” Dr. Gore said.
All volunteers sign a Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act consent form.
Although the clinic operates for about 7 hours a month, it’s still important to have malpractice insurance, Dr. Gore said. He and his colleagues also have tail insurance that covers medical malpractice insurance for up to 7 years if the clinic closes.
“If somebody were to slip and fall and then try to sue the church, we have a separate policy for the clinic for that. We also have a director’s and officer’s insurance policy,” he said.
Anyone who volunteers abroad should get a travel medicine clinic consultation. “Most of the time, it’s of very little consequence. You might have to get [a] yellow fever vaccine” when traveling to certain parts of the world, Dr. Albert said.
“If you’re going into an area that is all volatile politically or in some way a threat to your personal security, I think you have to think very carefully about that,” he said, suggesting that doctors consult with the US Department of State about potential dangers.
Talk to other physicians who have gone on missions and your sponsoring institution. “By and large, you want to go with a large organization that’s been doing ongoing work,” Dr. Albert said.
Volunteer work teaches you about the breadth of humanist endeavors across the world, he noted. “The people that you deal with are very grateful for your help. Whether you’re successful or not, they’re still very appreciative of the efforts that you’re making to help.”
Dr. Albert and Dr. Gore had no disclosures. Dr. Annapureddy has done consulting for GlaxoSmithKline. Ms. Barnes had no disclosures.
A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.
As a resident, rheumatologist Daniel Albert, MD, did his first volunteer mission to Afghanistan. The clinic had one portable chest x-ray machine, and physicians could order a complete blood count but no other laboratory studies.
“We could do sputum stains, but that was about it. You had to use your clinical acumen and make decisions based on examining the patient and taking a history,” said Dr. Albert, a professor of medicine and pediatrics at the Geisel School of Medicine at Dartmouth, Hanover, and The Dartmouth Institute in Lebanon, both in New Hampshire. Such tasks can be difficult in a non–English-speaking country.
“There’s a language barrier no matter where you are,” Dr. Albert said.
In Nashville, Tennessee, James Gore, MD, had an epiphany about opening a free rheumatology clinic during a church service. His priest was discussing St. Sampson the Hospitable’s story and closed with “you don’t have to change the world. All you have to do is your little part,” Dr. Gore said. He knew he didn’t need much: a computer, a stethoscope, and a printer for prescriptions.
When his church expanded its building space, Dr. Gore took the opportunity to achieve his goal.
“I didn’t feel responsible for the clinic to succeed, but I did feel responsible to try my best,” he said. That was 14 years ago. To date, the monthly clinic has served 1124 patients representing 55 counties in Tennessee and several other patients from Kentucky.
Volunteer work is a juggling act. Dr. Gore divides his time between the clinic and his work as associate professor of clinical medicine at Vanderbilt University Medical Center (VUMC), also in Nashville.
Dr. Albert often gave up his vacation time and had to balance commitments with his own medical practice and family to do his overseas missions. In his view, it’s worth the extra time and effort.
“It makes you a better physician because you make reasonable decisions and conclusions based on the resources available. Various places had various limitations, but none of them had the kind of resources that we routinely avail ourselves of in the US,” he said.
Tennessee Clients Get Access to Care, Medications
In some parts of the United States, good rheumatology care is hard to come by. One in four people in Tennessee have no health insurance. There’s a big need for rheumatology care in the state, Dr. Gore said.
On the second Saturday of each month, he volunteers his services at the St. Sampson Medical Clinic at Holy Trinity Greek Orthodox Church, Nashville, Tennessee, from 9 AM to 4 PM, providing care for uninsured adult rheumatology patients.
Patients come by referral from a charity clinic or health department and appointment only. The clinic asks for a $10 payment for their visits. “If they can’t pay, we still see them. But we only take care of patients who don’t have insurance,” Dr. Gore said. Allowing patients to pay gives them an opportunity to show they are vested in their own care. Often, patients will donate extra in gratitude.
Dr. Gore, along with VUMC colleague and rheumatologist Narender Annapureddy, MD, and nurse practitioner Julie Barnes, treats a variety of rheumatic diseases. For Ms. Barnes, volunteering has many rewarding aspects, “as the patients would be unable to have the treatments they need without insurance,” she said.
“We have had patients waiting for many months or sometimes years and have not had a diagnosis, and in a short time, we have been able to diagnose and get them on specific treatment,” Dr. Annapureddy said.
Most people come in for rheumatoid arthritis (RA) and lupus and also positive antinuclear antibody tests. They also see patients with psoriatic arthritis, Sjögren’s disease, gout, scleroderma, Behçet disease, and leukocytoclastic vasculitis. On a typical clinic day, the team can treat up to 30-plus patients. The clinic recently expanded its services to include cardiology care, seeing about 10 patients each month.
Prior to St. Sampson, there were no volunteer clinics in Tennessee specifically dedicated to helping patients with rheumatologic disease. Untreated, these diseases may cause chronic, severe pain, lead to irreversible joint damage, and increase the risk for death.
Many patients have received medications such as adalimumab, etanercept, or tofacitinib for free. The drug companies will provide free medications, provided that they’re prescribed by a board-certified rheumatologist and the patient is uninsured and qualifies for the medication, Dr. Gore said.
Drugs like these can cost about $50,000 a year. “We have pharmacists that donate their time to help these patients get approved for those medicines,” Dr. Gore said. To date, more than 100 patients have received a biologic or targeted synthetic disease-modifying antirheumatic drug through the clinic.
The clinic has received more than $100,000 in donated professional fees, including $48,706 for consultations. Dr. Gore and colleagues relied on other volunteers to bring the clinic to life. He worked with his sister to develop an electronic medical record system that the clinic still uses today. “We did not buy expensive laptops or printers. I had a very generous volunteer, Damon Miltner, our IT guy, who set everything up to make our intranet secure,” he said.
The volunteer nurses, IT, and front desk all work together to make the clinic run efficiently, said Ms. Barnes, who also works as a nurse practitioner with Vanderbilt Rheumatology Cool Springs in Franklin, Tennessee. “We share a lunch together, all in a beautiful and holy church. I do not think of this as work, but as spending time with people who are appreciative and kind,” she said.
“It is amazing to see patients who are able to walk in by themselves after having used a cane for years,” Dr. Annapureddy said. “While doing this on weekends with young kids is challenging, having a supportive spouse who shares the same value makes it much easier to be able to do volunteer work.”
Working Outside Your Comfort Zone
Dr. Albert has traveled to all parts of the world to volunteer his services as a rheumatologist and general practitioner. This includes missions to Uganda, Rwanda, Ecuador, Peru, Nepal, and Borneo. He’s participated with several volunteer organizations, among them the International Student & Scholar Services program at the University of Pennsylvania, CARE, Global Volunteers, Project Amazonas, Asha Nepal, Health in Harmony, and several others.
Rheumatologists who volunteer in underdeveloped countries should be prepared to work outside of their specialty — and their comfort zone. In some instances, Dr. Albert took care of AIDS-related infectious diseases. “It’s not something I am particularly knowledgeable about, and I actually spent a fair amount of time reading about it before I went on the plane in order to get some comfort level.”
Dr. Albert often found himself doing more primary care and general pediatrics than rheumatology care. “I would see rheumatic conditions. But there’s not a lot of RA in developing countries, which is something that people have noted before. And the same goes for other autoimmune conditions. They’re just not that common.”
He did see a lot of septic arthritis and tuberculosis in Uganda. “We had a rheum clinic and saw a mixture of the consequences of septic arthritis and also a few RA and lupus patients.”
Limited resources are another thing to prepare for.
Whenever he traveled to a place that didn’t have a lot of resources, Dr. Albert would collect as many supplies as he could from the nearest hospital, pack them away, and try to get the supplies to the mission location.
Sometimes it worked out, and sometimes it didn’t, he said. “I probably had $10,000 worth of medical supplies when I went to Armenia, and American Airlines lost it. It ended up back in my apartment 3 months later. That was unfortunate because there was lot of good stuff there.”
He thought about FedEx-ing some supplies to a mission in Uganda, but it was astronomically expensive, so that didn’t work.
Luggage weight restrictions are another obstacle that sometimes requires a waiver. Dr. Albert once had to get the Red Cross to work with an airline to get a luggage waiver. “Other airlines were very good and didn’t have those kinds of restrictions. But most of the time I got some supplies to go with me, and sometimes that was a very helpful addition,” especially if the mission site was lacking in resources, he said.
When Charity Work Produces Success Stories
During one of his missions in Uganda with the University of Pennsylvania, Dr. Albert helped the Makerere University Medical School, Kampala, to establish a rheumatology clinic, which was affiliated with Mulago National Specialised Hospital. The clinic operated once a week for half a day, mostly treating patients with RA and lupus.
The mission also established an AIDS clinic. Many of the patients with musculoskeletal complaints also had HIV and were able to get antiretroviral drugs through the clinic, he said.
For Dr. Gore, seeing patients from more than half the counties in Tennessee was one of the clinic’s biggest accomplishments. “That was all through word of mouth,” he said.
In rheumatology, many patients may feel their condition is hopeless, Ms. Barnes noted. “There have been many patients that, through months of proper treatment, have normal lives. A high percentage would be disabled without the needed medical therapies.”
Dr. Gore has seen patients who literally couldn’t walk or had severe, painful psoriasis all over their body. The clinic would put them on medicine that would give them new life. The psoriasis would clear up, or their joints would heal, and they could walk again.
One of Dr. Gore’s patients, a woman in her mid-50s, got on an expensive medication that brought her arthritis into remission. She’s now able to care for her grandchildren.
The fact that the clinic, with the help of volunteer pharmacologists, can provide medications to enable patients to have a less destructive disease and improved quality of life “is a major reward,” Ms. Barnes said.
Balancing Your Priorities
Overseas missions can last for a few weeks to several months, depending on the mission, the organization, and the type of care involved.
Rheumatologists who want to volunteer need to do so in a way that doesn’t generate a lot of angst with supervisors or colleagues. Dr. Albert balanced this by keeping his missions reasonably short. “I would have someone cover my service. And since there’s reciprocity in the places I worked for, if they covered me for a month, I would cover them for a month, so it wasn’t a burden on anybody.”
“By and large, I used my vacation time to do it, and it does cost some money, but it’s a lot less than the cost of a typical vacation,” Dr. Albert said.
Volunteer work can also compete with family time. Dr. Albert ended up taking his family along on several of his missions to Ecuador and Uganda. He would tell the organization: “My family wants to come. Is there anything they can do while I’m working in the program? And they usually found an occupation.”
At St. Sampson, volunteering is also a family affair. “My wife acts as the administrator, so she’s the one that helps schedule patients and deals with a lot of the faxes.” It’s a big commitment for Dr. Gore’s family and for the church, which gives up a significant chunk of the building one Saturday a month.
“However, for us, I think that it’s a real manifestation of giving back and trying to help those in need and doing what we can do,” he said.
Volunteer Work Involves Prep Work
Establishing the St. Sampson clinic took some planning. Dr. Gore and colleagues had to fill out a 501(c)(3) application; establish a charter, bylaws, articles of incorporation, policies, and procedures; and obtain medical malpractice and general liability insurance.
The clinic was able to get financing from the Mid-South Chapter of the Lupus Foundation of America as well as in-kind donations from the church. “We’ve had a lot of different companies who were very generous in donating money and excited to help the clinic continue,” Dr. Gore said.
All volunteers sign a Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act consent form.
Although the clinic operates for about 7 hours a month, it’s still important to have malpractice insurance, Dr. Gore said. He and his colleagues also have tail insurance that covers medical malpractice insurance for up to 7 years if the clinic closes.
“If somebody were to slip and fall and then try to sue the church, we have a separate policy for the clinic for that. We also have a director’s and officer’s insurance policy,” he said.
Anyone who volunteers abroad should get a travel medicine clinic consultation. “Most of the time, it’s of very little consequence. You might have to get [a] yellow fever vaccine” when traveling to certain parts of the world, Dr. Albert said.
“If you’re going into an area that is all volatile politically or in some way a threat to your personal security, I think you have to think very carefully about that,” he said, suggesting that doctors consult with the US Department of State about potential dangers.
Talk to other physicians who have gone on missions and your sponsoring institution. “By and large, you want to go with a large organization that’s been doing ongoing work,” Dr. Albert said.
Volunteer work teaches you about the breadth of humanist endeavors across the world, he noted. “The people that you deal with are very grateful for your help. Whether you’re successful or not, they’re still very appreciative of the efforts that you’re making to help.”
Dr. Albert and Dr. Gore had no disclosures. Dr. Annapureddy has done consulting for GlaxoSmithKline. Ms. Barnes had no disclosures.
A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.
As a resident, rheumatologist Daniel Albert, MD, did his first volunteer mission to Afghanistan. The clinic had one portable chest x-ray machine, and physicians could order a complete blood count but no other laboratory studies.
“We could do sputum stains, but that was about it. You had to use your clinical acumen and make decisions based on examining the patient and taking a history,” said Dr. Albert, a professor of medicine and pediatrics at the Geisel School of Medicine at Dartmouth, Hanover, and The Dartmouth Institute in Lebanon, both in New Hampshire. Such tasks can be difficult in a non–English-speaking country.
“There’s a language barrier no matter where you are,” Dr. Albert said.
In Nashville, Tennessee, James Gore, MD, had an epiphany about opening a free rheumatology clinic during a church service. His priest was discussing St. Sampson the Hospitable’s story and closed with “you don’t have to change the world. All you have to do is your little part,” Dr. Gore said. He knew he didn’t need much: a computer, a stethoscope, and a printer for prescriptions.
When his church expanded its building space, Dr. Gore took the opportunity to achieve his goal.
“I didn’t feel responsible for the clinic to succeed, but I did feel responsible to try my best,” he said. That was 14 years ago. To date, the monthly clinic has served 1124 patients representing 55 counties in Tennessee and several other patients from Kentucky.
Volunteer work is a juggling act. Dr. Gore divides his time between the clinic and his work as associate professor of clinical medicine at Vanderbilt University Medical Center (VUMC), also in Nashville.
Dr. Albert often gave up his vacation time and had to balance commitments with his own medical practice and family to do his overseas missions. In his view, it’s worth the extra time and effort.
“It makes you a better physician because you make reasonable decisions and conclusions based on the resources available. Various places had various limitations, but none of them had the kind of resources that we routinely avail ourselves of in the US,” he said.
Tennessee Clients Get Access to Care, Medications
In some parts of the United States, good rheumatology care is hard to come by. One in four people in Tennessee have no health insurance. There’s a big need for rheumatology care in the state, Dr. Gore said.
On the second Saturday of each month, he volunteers his services at the St. Sampson Medical Clinic at Holy Trinity Greek Orthodox Church, Nashville, Tennessee, from 9 AM to 4 PM, providing care for uninsured adult rheumatology patients.
Patients come by referral from a charity clinic or health department and appointment only. The clinic asks for a $10 payment for their visits. “If they can’t pay, we still see them. But we only take care of patients who don’t have insurance,” Dr. Gore said. Allowing patients to pay gives them an opportunity to show they are vested in their own care. Often, patients will donate extra in gratitude.
Dr. Gore, along with VUMC colleague and rheumatologist Narender Annapureddy, MD, and nurse practitioner Julie Barnes, treats a variety of rheumatic diseases. For Ms. Barnes, volunteering has many rewarding aspects, “as the patients would be unable to have the treatments they need without insurance,” she said.
“We have had patients waiting for many months or sometimes years and have not had a diagnosis, and in a short time, we have been able to diagnose and get them on specific treatment,” Dr. Annapureddy said.
Most people come in for rheumatoid arthritis (RA) and lupus and also positive antinuclear antibody tests. They also see patients with psoriatic arthritis, Sjögren’s disease, gout, scleroderma, Behçet disease, and leukocytoclastic vasculitis. On a typical clinic day, the team can treat up to 30-plus patients. The clinic recently expanded its services to include cardiology care, seeing about 10 patients each month.
Prior to St. Sampson, there were no volunteer clinics in Tennessee specifically dedicated to helping patients with rheumatologic disease. Untreated, these diseases may cause chronic, severe pain, lead to irreversible joint damage, and increase the risk for death.
Many patients have received medications such as adalimumab, etanercept, or tofacitinib for free. The drug companies will provide free medications, provided that they’re prescribed by a board-certified rheumatologist and the patient is uninsured and qualifies for the medication, Dr. Gore said.
Drugs like these can cost about $50,000 a year. “We have pharmacists that donate their time to help these patients get approved for those medicines,” Dr. Gore said. To date, more than 100 patients have received a biologic or targeted synthetic disease-modifying antirheumatic drug through the clinic.
The clinic has received more than $100,000 in donated professional fees, including $48,706 for consultations. Dr. Gore and colleagues relied on other volunteers to bring the clinic to life. He worked with his sister to develop an electronic medical record system that the clinic still uses today. “We did not buy expensive laptops or printers. I had a very generous volunteer, Damon Miltner, our IT guy, who set everything up to make our intranet secure,” he said.
The volunteer nurses, IT, and front desk all work together to make the clinic run efficiently, said Ms. Barnes, who also works as a nurse practitioner with Vanderbilt Rheumatology Cool Springs in Franklin, Tennessee. “We share a lunch together, all in a beautiful and holy church. I do not think of this as work, but as spending time with people who are appreciative and kind,” she said.
“It is amazing to see patients who are able to walk in by themselves after having used a cane for years,” Dr. Annapureddy said. “While doing this on weekends with young kids is challenging, having a supportive spouse who shares the same value makes it much easier to be able to do volunteer work.”
Working Outside Your Comfort Zone
Dr. Albert has traveled to all parts of the world to volunteer his services as a rheumatologist and general practitioner. This includes missions to Uganda, Rwanda, Ecuador, Peru, Nepal, and Borneo. He’s participated with several volunteer organizations, among them the International Student & Scholar Services program at the University of Pennsylvania, CARE, Global Volunteers, Project Amazonas, Asha Nepal, Health in Harmony, and several others.
Rheumatologists who volunteer in underdeveloped countries should be prepared to work outside of their specialty — and their comfort zone. In some instances, Dr. Albert took care of AIDS-related infectious diseases. “It’s not something I am particularly knowledgeable about, and I actually spent a fair amount of time reading about it before I went on the plane in order to get some comfort level.”
Dr. Albert often found himself doing more primary care and general pediatrics than rheumatology care. “I would see rheumatic conditions. But there’s not a lot of RA in developing countries, which is something that people have noted before. And the same goes for other autoimmune conditions. They’re just not that common.”
He did see a lot of septic arthritis and tuberculosis in Uganda. “We had a rheum clinic and saw a mixture of the consequences of septic arthritis and also a few RA and lupus patients.”
Limited resources are another thing to prepare for.
Whenever he traveled to a place that didn’t have a lot of resources, Dr. Albert would collect as many supplies as he could from the nearest hospital, pack them away, and try to get the supplies to the mission location.
Sometimes it worked out, and sometimes it didn’t, he said. “I probably had $10,000 worth of medical supplies when I went to Armenia, and American Airlines lost it. It ended up back in my apartment 3 months later. That was unfortunate because there was lot of good stuff there.”
He thought about FedEx-ing some supplies to a mission in Uganda, but it was astronomically expensive, so that didn’t work.
Luggage weight restrictions are another obstacle that sometimes requires a waiver. Dr. Albert once had to get the Red Cross to work with an airline to get a luggage waiver. “Other airlines were very good and didn’t have those kinds of restrictions. But most of the time I got some supplies to go with me, and sometimes that was a very helpful addition,” especially if the mission site was lacking in resources, he said.
When Charity Work Produces Success Stories
During one of his missions in Uganda with the University of Pennsylvania, Dr. Albert helped the Makerere University Medical School, Kampala, to establish a rheumatology clinic, which was affiliated with Mulago National Specialised Hospital. The clinic operated once a week for half a day, mostly treating patients with RA and lupus.
The mission also established an AIDS clinic. Many of the patients with musculoskeletal complaints also had HIV and were able to get antiretroviral drugs through the clinic, he said.
For Dr. Gore, seeing patients from more than half the counties in Tennessee was one of the clinic’s biggest accomplishments. “That was all through word of mouth,” he said.
In rheumatology, many patients may feel their condition is hopeless, Ms. Barnes noted. “There have been many patients that, through months of proper treatment, have normal lives. A high percentage would be disabled without the needed medical therapies.”
Dr. Gore has seen patients who literally couldn’t walk or had severe, painful psoriasis all over their body. The clinic would put them on medicine that would give them new life. The psoriasis would clear up, or their joints would heal, and they could walk again.
One of Dr. Gore’s patients, a woman in her mid-50s, got on an expensive medication that brought her arthritis into remission. She’s now able to care for her grandchildren.
The fact that the clinic, with the help of volunteer pharmacologists, can provide medications to enable patients to have a less destructive disease and improved quality of life “is a major reward,” Ms. Barnes said.
Balancing Your Priorities
Overseas missions can last for a few weeks to several months, depending on the mission, the organization, and the type of care involved.
Rheumatologists who want to volunteer need to do so in a way that doesn’t generate a lot of angst with supervisors or colleagues. Dr. Albert balanced this by keeping his missions reasonably short. “I would have someone cover my service. And since there’s reciprocity in the places I worked for, if they covered me for a month, I would cover them for a month, so it wasn’t a burden on anybody.”
“By and large, I used my vacation time to do it, and it does cost some money, but it’s a lot less than the cost of a typical vacation,” Dr. Albert said.
Volunteer work can also compete with family time. Dr. Albert ended up taking his family along on several of his missions to Ecuador and Uganda. He would tell the organization: “My family wants to come. Is there anything they can do while I’m working in the program? And they usually found an occupation.”
At St. Sampson, volunteering is also a family affair. “My wife acts as the administrator, so she’s the one that helps schedule patients and deals with a lot of the faxes.” It’s a big commitment for Dr. Gore’s family and for the church, which gives up a significant chunk of the building one Saturday a month.
“However, for us, I think that it’s a real manifestation of giving back and trying to help those in need and doing what we can do,” he said.
Volunteer Work Involves Prep Work
Establishing the St. Sampson clinic took some planning. Dr. Gore and colleagues had to fill out a 501(c)(3) application; establish a charter, bylaws, articles of incorporation, policies, and procedures; and obtain medical malpractice and general liability insurance.
The clinic was able to get financing from the Mid-South Chapter of the Lupus Foundation of America as well as in-kind donations from the church. “We’ve had a lot of different companies who were very generous in donating money and excited to help the clinic continue,” Dr. Gore said.
All volunteers sign a Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act consent form.
Although the clinic operates for about 7 hours a month, it’s still important to have malpractice insurance, Dr. Gore said. He and his colleagues also have tail insurance that covers medical malpractice insurance for up to 7 years if the clinic closes.
“If somebody were to slip and fall and then try to sue the church, we have a separate policy for the clinic for that. We also have a director’s and officer’s insurance policy,” he said.
Anyone who volunteers abroad should get a travel medicine clinic consultation. “Most of the time, it’s of very little consequence. You might have to get [a] yellow fever vaccine” when traveling to certain parts of the world, Dr. Albert said.
“If you’re going into an area that is all volatile politically or in some way a threat to your personal security, I think you have to think very carefully about that,” he said, suggesting that doctors consult with the US Department of State about potential dangers.
Talk to other physicians who have gone on missions and your sponsoring institution. “By and large, you want to go with a large organization that’s been doing ongoing work,” Dr. Albert said.
Volunteer work teaches you about the breadth of humanist endeavors across the world, he noted. “The people that you deal with are very grateful for your help. Whether you’re successful or not, they’re still very appreciative of the efforts that you’re making to help.”
Dr. Albert and Dr. Gore had no disclosures. Dr. Annapureddy has done consulting for GlaxoSmithKline. Ms. Barnes had no disclosures.
A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.
Physician-Scientist Taps into Microbiome to Fight Cancer
The lowest point in the nascent career of Neelendu Dey, MD, helped seal his fate as a physician-scientist.
He had just started his first year as a resident at University of California, San Francisco. One of his patients was a 30-year-old woman who was dying of metastatic colorectal cancer. “I was in my mid-20s interacting with an individual just a few years older than I am, going through one of the most terrible health outcomes one could imagine,” Dr. Dey said.
He remembers asking the patient what he could do for her, how he could make her feel more comfortable. “That feeling of helplessness, particularly as we think about young people developing cancer, it really stuck with me through the years,” he said.
In an interview, he talked about his dual role as a physician and scientist, and how those two interests are guiding his research in precancerous conditions of the colon.
Cases like that of the young woman with colon cancer “really help drive the urgency of the work we do, and the research questions we ask, as we try to move the ball forward and help folks at earlier stages,” he said.
Q: Why did you choose GI?
When you think about what sorts of chronic diseases really impact your quality of life, gut health is one of the chief contributors among various aspects of health. And that really appealed to me — the ability to take someone who is essentially handicapped by a series of illnesses and symptoms that derive from the GI tract and enable them to return to the person they want to be, to be productive in the way that they want to be, and have a rewarding life.
As I thought about how I wanted to contribute to the future of medicine, one of the ways in which I’ve always thought that I would do that is through research. When I considered the fields that really appealed to me, both from that clinical standpoint and research standpoint, GI was one that really stood out. There has been a lot of exciting research going on in GI. My lab currently studies the microbiome, and I feel like this is an area in which we can contribute.
Q: What role does digestive health play in overall health?
Obviously, the direct answer is gut health is so critical in something like nutritional intake. Some GI symptoms, if your gut health has gone awry, can really be detrimental in terms of quality of life. But one less obvious role that digestive health plays is its long-term effects. We’re starting to appreciate that gut health, the gut microbiome, and gut immune education are probably long-term players. Some experiences in early life might shape our immunity in ways that have consequences for us much later in life. Whether we get early life antibiotics, for example, may potentially contribute to colorectal cancer down the line. Thinking about the long-term players is more challenging, but it’s also an appealing opportunity as we think about how we can shape medicine moving forward.
Q: What practice challenges have you faced in your career?
First, being a physician-scientist. It’s challenging to be either a physician alone or to be a researcher alone. And trying to do both includes the challenges of both individual worlds. It just takes more time to get all the prerequisite training. And second, there are just challenges with getting the opportunities to contribute in the ways that you want — to get the research funding, to get the papers out, things like that.
Q: Tell me about the work you’ve been doing in your lab to develop microbiome-based strategies for preventing and treating cancer.
The microbiome presents several opportunities when it comes to cancer prevention. One is identifying markers of cancer risk, or of general good health down the line. Some of those biomarkers could — potentially — feed directly into personalized risk assessment and maybe even inform a future screening strategy. The second opportunity the microbiome presents is if we identify a microbe that influences your cancer risk, can we then understand and exploit, or utilize, that mechanism to mitigate cancer risk in the future? Our lab has done work looking at subspecies levels of microbes that track with health or cancer. We’ve done some work to identify what these subspecies groupings are and have identified some links to certain precancerous changes in the colon. We think that there’s an opportunity here for future interventions.
Q: Have you published other papers?
We recently published another paper describing how some microbes can interact with a tumor suppressor gene and are influenced in a sex-biased manner to drive tumorigenesis in a mouse model. We think, based on what we’re seeing in human data, that there may be some relationships and we’re exploring that now as well.
Q: What is your vision for the future in GI, and in your career?
The vision that I have is to create clinical tools that can expand our reach and our effectiveness and cancer prevention. I think that there are opportunities for leveraging microbiome research to accomplish this. And one outcome I could imagine is leveraging some of these insights to expand noninvasive screening at even earlier ages than we do now. I mean, we just dialed back the recommended age for colonoscopy for average risk individuals to 45. But I could envision a future in which noninvasive screening starts earlier, in which the first stool-based tests that we deploy to assess personalized risk are used in the pediatric clinic.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Talking
Favorite city in the United States besides the one you live in?
St. Louis
Cat or dog person?
Both
If you weren’t a GI, what would you be?
Musician
Best place you went on vacation?
Borneo
Favorite sport?
Soccer
Favorite ice cream?
Cashew-based salted caramel
What song do you have to sing along with when you hear it?
Sweet Child of Mine
Favorite movie or TV show?
25th Hour or Shawshank Redemption
Optimist or Pessimist?
Optimist
The lowest point in the nascent career of Neelendu Dey, MD, helped seal his fate as a physician-scientist.
He had just started his first year as a resident at University of California, San Francisco. One of his patients was a 30-year-old woman who was dying of metastatic colorectal cancer. “I was in my mid-20s interacting with an individual just a few years older than I am, going through one of the most terrible health outcomes one could imagine,” Dr. Dey said.
He remembers asking the patient what he could do for her, how he could make her feel more comfortable. “That feeling of helplessness, particularly as we think about young people developing cancer, it really stuck with me through the years,” he said.
In an interview, he talked about his dual role as a physician and scientist, and how those two interests are guiding his research in precancerous conditions of the colon.
Cases like that of the young woman with colon cancer “really help drive the urgency of the work we do, and the research questions we ask, as we try to move the ball forward and help folks at earlier stages,” he said.
Q: Why did you choose GI?
When you think about what sorts of chronic diseases really impact your quality of life, gut health is one of the chief contributors among various aspects of health. And that really appealed to me — the ability to take someone who is essentially handicapped by a series of illnesses and symptoms that derive from the GI tract and enable them to return to the person they want to be, to be productive in the way that they want to be, and have a rewarding life.
As I thought about how I wanted to contribute to the future of medicine, one of the ways in which I’ve always thought that I would do that is through research. When I considered the fields that really appealed to me, both from that clinical standpoint and research standpoint, GI was one that really stood out. There has been a lot of exciting research going on in GI. My lab currently studies the microbiome, and I feel like this is an area in which we can contribute.
Q: What role does digestive health play in overall health?
Obviously, the direct answer is gut health is so critical in something like nutritional intake. Some GI symptoms, if your gut health has gone awry, can really be detrimental in terms of quality of life. But one less obvious role that digestive health plays is its long-term effects. We’re starting to appreciate that gut health, the gut microbiome, and gut immune education are probably long-term players. Some experiences in early life might shape our immunity in ways that have consequences for us much later in life. Whether we get early life antibiotics, for example, may potentially contribute to colorectal cancer down the line. Thinking about the long-term players is more challenging, but it’s also an appealing opportunity as we think about how we can shape medicine moving forward.
Q: What practice challenges have you faced in your career?
First, being a physician-scientist. It’s challenging to be either a physician alone or to be a researcher alone. And trying to do both includes the challenges of both individual worlds. It just takes more time to get all the prerequisite training. And second, there are just challenges with getting the opportunities to contribute in the ways that you want — to get the research funding, to get the papers out, things like that.
Q: Tell me about the work you’ve been doing in your lab to develop microbiome-based strategies for preventing and treating cancer.
The microbiome presents several opportunities when it comes to cancer prevention. One is identifying markers of cancer risk, or of general good health down the line. Some of those biomarkers could — potentially — feed directly into personalized risk assessment and maybe even inform a future screening strategy. The second opportunity the microbiome presents is if we identify a microbe that influences your cancer risk, can we then understand and exploit, or utilize, that mechanism to mitigate cancer risk in the future? Our lab has done work looking at subspecies levels of microbes that track with health or cancer. We’ve done some work to identify what these subspecies groupings are and have identified some links to certain precancerous changes in the colon. We think that there’s an opportunity here for future interventions.
Q: Have you published other papers?
We recently published another paper describing how some microbes can interact with a tumor suppressor gene and are influenced in a sex-biased manner to drive tumorigenesis in a mouse model. We think, based on what we’re seeing in human data, that there may be some relationships and we’re exploring that now as well.
Q: What is your vision for the future in GI, and in your career?
The vision that I have is to create clinical tools that can expand our reach and our effectiveness and cancer prevention. I think that there are opportunities for leveraging microbiome research to accomplish this. And one outcome I could imagine is leveraging some of these insights to expand noninvasive screening at even earlier ages than we do now. I mean, we just dialed back the recommended age for colonoscopy for average risk individuals to 45. But I could envision a future in which noninvasive screening starts earlier, in which the first stool-based tests that we deploy to assess personalized risk are used in the pediatric clinic.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Talking
Favorite city in the United States besides the one you live in?
St. Louis
Cat or dog person?
Both
If you weren’t a GI, what would you be?
Musician
Best place you went on vacation?
Borneo
Favorite sport?
Soccer
Favorite ice cream?
Cashew-based salted caramel
What song do you have to sing along with when you hear it?
Sweet Child of Mine
Favorite movie or TV show?
25th Hour or Shawshank Redemption
Optimist or Pessimist?
Optimist
The lowest point in the nascent career of Neelendu Dey, MD, helped seal his fate as a physician-scientist.
He had just started his first year as a resident at University of California, San Francisco. One of his patients was a 30-year-old woman who was dying of metastatic colorectal cancer. “I was in my mid-20s interacting with an individual just a few years older than I am, going through one of the most terrible health outcomes one could imagine,” Dr. Dey said.
He remembers asking the patient what he could do for her, how he could make her feel more comfortable. “That feeling of helplessness, particularly as we think about young people developing cancer, it really stuck with me through the years,” he said.
In an interview, he talked about his dual role as a physician and scientist, and how those two interests are guiding his research in precancerous conditions of the colon.
Cases like that of the young woman with colon cancer “really help drive the urgency of the work we do, and the research questions we ask, as we try to move the ball forward and help folks at earlier stages,” he said.
Q: Why did you choose GI?
When you think about what sorts of chronic diseases really impact your quality of life, gut health is one of the chief contributors among various aspects of health. And that really appealed to me — the ability to take someone who is essentially handicapped by a series of illnesses and symptoms that derive from the GI tract and enable them to return to the person they want to be, to be productive in the way that they want to be, and have a rewarding life.
As I thought about how I wanted to contribute to the future of medicine, one of the ways in which I’ve always thought that I would do that is through research. When I considered the fields that really appealed to me, both from that clinical standpoint and research standpoint, GI was one that really stood out. There has been a lot of exciting research going on in GI. My lab currently studies the microbiome, and I feel like this is an area in which we can contribute.
Q: What role does digestive health play in overall health?
Obviously, the direct answer is gut health is so critical in something like nutritional intake. Some GI symptoms, if your gut health has gone awry, can really be detrimental in terms of quality of life. But one less obvious role that digestive health plays is its long-term effects. We’re starting to appreciate that gut health, the gut microbiome, and gut immune education are probably long-term players. Some experiences in early life might shape our immunity in ways that have consequences for us much later in life. Whether we get early life antibiotics, for example, may potentially contribute to colorectal cancer down the line. Thinking about the long-term players is more challenging, but it’s also an appealing opportunity as we think about how we can shape medicine moving forward.
Q: What practice challenges have you faced in your career?
First, being a physician-scientist. It’s challenging to be either a physician alone or to be a researcher alone. And trying to do both includes the challenges of both individual worlds. It just takes more time to get all the prerequisite training. And second, there are just challenges with getting the opportunities to contribute in the ways that you want — to get the research funding, to get the papers out, things like that.
Q: Tell me about the work you’ve been doing in your lab to develop microbiome-based strategies for preventing and treating cancer.
The microbiome presents several opportunities when it comes to cancer prevention. One is identifying markers of cancer risk, or of general good health down the line. Some of those biomarkers could — potentially — feed directly into personalized risk assessment and maybe even inform a future screening strategy. The second opportunity the microbiome presents is if we identify a microbe that influences your cancer risk, can we then understand and exploit, or utilize, that mechanism to mitigate cancer risk in the future? Our lab has done work looking at subspecies levels of microbes that track with health or cancer. We’ve done some work to identify what these subspecies groupings are and have identified some links to certain precancerous changes in the colon. We think that there’s an opportunity here for future interventions.
Q: Have you published other papers?
We recently published another paper describing how some microbes can interact with a tumor suppressor gene and are influenced in a sex-biased manner to drive tumorigenesis in a mouse model. We think, based on what we’re seeing in human data, that there may be some relationships and we’re exploring that now as well.
Q: What is your vision for the future in GI, and in your career?
The vision that I have is to create clinical tools that can expand our reach and our effectiveness and cancer prevention. I think that there are opportunities for leveraging microbiome research to accomplish this. And one outcome I could imagine is leveraging some of these insights to expand noninvasive screening at even earlier ages than we do now. I mean, we just dialed back the recommended age for colonoscopy for average risk individuals to 45. But I could envision a future in which noninvasive screening starts earlier, in which the first stool-based tests that we deploy to assess personalized risk are used in the pediatric clinic.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Talking
Favorite city in the United States besides the one you live in?
St. Louis
Cat or dog person?
Both
If you weren’t a GI, what would you be?
Musician
Best place you went on vacation?
Borneo
Favorite sport?
Soccer
Favorite ice cream?
Cashew-based salted caramel
What song do you have to sing along with when you hear it?
Sweet Child of Mine
Favorite movie or TV show?
25th Hour or Shawshank Redemption
Optimist or Pessimist?
Optimist
Steroids’ 75th Anniversary: Clinicians Strive to Use Less
Now, 75 years after the first presentations were made on the “sensational” effects of cortisone in the treatment of rheumatoid arthritis (RA), glucocorticoids (GCs) are still highly relevant and widely used in the management of RA and other immune-mediated inflammatory diseases.
“It makes me smile because this is such an old drug, and we need it still so much. It still hasn’t been replaced,” Josef S. Smolen, MD, observed at annual European Congress of Rheumatology.
At low doses, GCs are highly effective as anti-inflammatory and anti-destructive agents in RA and many other diseases, said Dr. Smolen, a rheumatologist and immunologist and professor emeritus at the Medical University of Vienna, Austria.
But even after all this time, the mechanisms that lead to efficacy vs toxicity have yet to be clarified. “Such separation may provide further insights into future treatment options,” said Dr. Smolen.
His comments, made during a special session on the 75th anniversary of GCs at EULAR 2024, underscore the endless saga to manage GCs while finding better alternatives. Opinions differ on what the research says on toxicity and dosage and whether a long-term, low-dose option is viable. Alternative therapies are being studied, but those endeavors are still in the early stages of development.
While GCs are still used chronically in many patients, clinicians should always attempt to discontinue them whenever possible, Frank Buttgereit, MD, professor of rheumatology and deputy head of the Department of Rheumatology and Clinical Immunology at Charité – Universitätsmedizin Berlin, Germany, told attendees at the congress. Up to 60% of patients in registries use GCs, and many patients with early or established RA enter randomized controlled trials on GCs as maintenance therapy.
The ubiquity of GC usage stems in part from overprescribing by non-rheumatologist physicians who might not have access to or aren’t aware of newer biologics or disease-modifying antirheumatic drugs (DMARDs). “We see a lot of patients on long-term glucocorticoids, chronic use for years and years, decades of glucocorticoids,” said Giovanni Adami, MD, PhD, a rheumatologist at the University of Verona, Italy, who has coauthored several studies on the use of GCs.
Societies Agree: Discontinue as Fast as Possible
GCs have been associated with a long list of adverse events, most notably Cushing syndrome, hypertension, cardiovascular disease, osteoporosis, myopathy, peptic ulcer, adrenal insufficiency (AI), infections, mood disorders, ophthalmologic disorders such as cataracts, skin disorders, menstrual septic necrosis, and pancreatitis.
Dose matters, Dr. Smolen said, citing studies that found that cumulative GC doses of 1000 or 1100 mg increase risks. One study by German researchers found that doses above 10 mg/d significantly raised the hazard ratio for death.
Because high disease activity is also associated with an equally high mortality risk, “we have to balance this out: Active disease vs glucocorticoid use, especially in countries that have less access to modern therapies than we have in the more affluent Western regions,” Dr. Smolen said.
Rheumatology societies generally agree that clinicians should try to minimize GC use or eventually discontinue the therapy.
The American College of Rheumatology recommends not using GCs as part of the first-line treatment of RA. “And if you want to use [them], you should do that for less than 3 months, taper and discontinue as fast as possible, and use the lowest dose possible,” Dr. Adami said.
EULAR’s recommendation is more nuanced in that it allows for a lower dose but gives physicians more choice in how they want to handle GCs, Dr. Adami said. The task force added that all patients should try to taper down or discontinue as fast as possible, he said.
For GCs in the management of systemic lupus erythematosus, a EULAR task force recommended that the type and severity of organ involvement should determine dose, with a long-term goal of maintaining the dose < 5 mg/d or possibly withdrawing it.
EULAR also recommends GC bridging when initiating or changing conventional synthetic (cs) DMARDs. This effectively dismisses the use of GCs when using biologic DMARDs or targeted synthetic DMARDs. As a bridging therapy, EULAR recommends either a single parenteral dose of GC or a predefined tapering or discontinuation scheme within 3 months, when starting an oral GC.
Low-Dose Approach Gains Ground
While saying he’d be the first physician to eliminate GCs whenever possible, Dr. Buttgereit made the case before the EULAR Congress that GCs in low doses could still play a role in treatment.
Many physicians believe that very low doses between 2 and 4 mg/d are a realistic therapy option for RA, he said, adding that a mean daily usage < 5 mg could be used over a longer period with relatively low risk.
Several studies he coauthored tested the 5-mg approach. The GLORIA trial compared 5 mg/d prednisolone and placebo in 451 patients aged 65 years and older with active RA over the course of 2 years. The researchers found that patients on prednisolone had a mean Disease Activity Score in 28 joints (DAS28) that was 0.37 points lower and mean joint damage score that was 1.7 points lower than those of patients on placebo, suggesting that the GC had long-term benefits in these patients with RA.
The tradeoff was a 24% increase in the risk of having at least one adverse event of special interest, but most of these events were non-severe infections, Dr. Buttgereit said.
Another study, the SEMIRA trial, assigned 128 patients to a continued regimen of prednisone 5 mg/d for 24 weeks. Another group of 131 patients received a tapered-prednisone regimen. All patients received tocilizumab 162 mg with or without csDMARDs, maintained at stable doses.
Patients in the first cohort achieved superior disease activity control than those in the tapered regimen group. “The side effects showed that in the tapering prednisone group, there were more treatment-emergent adverse effects in this double-blind trial as compared to the continued prednisone group,” Dr. Buttgereit said.
One limitation of the SEMIRA trial was that it studied the effect of tocilizumab as a GC-sparing agent, and it didn’t consider using a tumor necrosis factor or Janus kinase (JAK) inhibitor, which might have a more potent effect on pain and GC dose reduction, Dr. Adami said. “Why do we need to use glucocorticoids if we know they might be detrimental, if we know there might be some other option in our armamentarium?”
Other studies have shown that low-dose GC protocols can be used with standard treatment, according to Sebastian E. Sattui, MD, assistant professor of medicine and director of the Vasculitis Center at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine.
“Examples of this are the LoVAS and PEXIVAS studies for antineutrophil cytoplasmic antibody-associated [ANCA] vasculitis. This has been highlighted in existing treatment recommendations for ANCA vasculitis and systemic lupus erythematosus nephritis,” Dr. Sattui said.
Two-year results from LoVAS showed noninferiority in remission induction rates and rates of relapse and significantly less frequent serious adverse events between a reduced-dose GC regimen at 0.5 mg/kg/d and conventional high-dose GC regimen at 1 mg/kg/d plus rituximab for ANCA vasculitis.
PEXIVAS demonstrated the noninferiority of a reduced-dose regimen of GCs vs a standard-dose regimen with respect to death or end-stage kidney disease in patients with severe disease involvement.
Debating the Toxicity Threshold
Are low GC dosages significantly associated with adverse events like mortality, cardiovascular, or diabetes risk? It depends on who you ask.
Much of the toxicity data on GCs come from inadequately powered or controlled studies and often refer to doses that currently are considered too high, Dr. Buttgereit said. His presentation highlighted a study from Hong Kong, a time-varying analysis of GC dose and incident risk for major adverse cardiovascular events (MACE) in more than 12,000 patients with RA. Researchers found that GC regimens ≥ 5 mg/d significantly increased the risk for MACE. Comparatively, doses below this threshold did not confer excessive risk, he said.
Low-dose GCs are lesser toxic than high-dose GCs, noted Joan Merrill, MD, a professor with the Arthritis and Clinical Immunology Research Program at The University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center, Oklahoma City. “There may be less weight gain, less chance of acne, and less risk for all the slower, more organ-threatening side effects.”
Dr. Merrill, who cares for patients with lupus, said physicians can keep lupus in check for years, using constant, low-dose GCs. “The one thing we know is that steroids work.” But over many years, damage may still occur, she cautioned.
But even a low dose could present health problems to patients. The GLORIA trial of patients with RA, which showed promising results on disease control with 5 mg/d, found an association between GCs and increased risk for infection and osteoporosis. There was a higher overall risk for adverse events related to skin, infections, and bone mineral density changes. Bone mineral density loss and fractures were more common in the GC group, Adami noted.
Surprisingly, some of the trial’s authors said patients could handle such adverse events. But what is your threshold of “acceptable?” Dr. Adami asked.
Other studies have found associations between low-dose GC regimens and adverse events. Researchers of a 2023 study reported bone mineral density loss in patients with inflammatory rheumatic musculoskeletal diseases on a 2.5-mg/d regimen. Another decade-long analysis of Medicare and Optum data found a link between serious infection and low-dose GCs in patients receiving stable DMARD therapy. Investigators reported risk even at daily doses of ≤ 5 mg.
Dr. Adami acknowledged that these studies may have “confounding by indication,” a channeling bias in which people with severe RA are more likely to be treated with GCs. For this reason, it’s a challenge to disentangle the independent role of GCs from the disease activity itself, he said.
The big question is: Why don’t these observational studies show an increased risk for adverse events with biologic drugs that are given to more severe patients? “That confirms the hypothesis that confounding by indication for GCs is minimal, and most of the risk is driven by GCs,” he said.
Tapering Options Across Diseases
Rheumatologists in the field continue to navigate GC-tapering options and treatment combinations that reduce the cumulative use of GCs over time, finding their own solutions based on the conditions they treat.
In his EULAR presentation, Dr. Buttgereit suggested that current therapeutic approaches for RA may be too narrow when they don’t consider the possibility of including very low doses of GCs.
For RA, “why shouldn’t we not do a combination of something like methotrexate plus a JAK inhibitor or a biological,” plus a very low dose of GCs < 5 mg/d, he asked.
However, Dr. Adami said he generally avoids GCs if RA disease activity is not severe (based on DAS28) and if the patient has a visual analog scale pain score < 7. “Nonetheless, even in patients with more severe disease, I would avoid GCs for more than 3 months. Usually, 1 month of steroids, tapered rapidly and discontinued.”
All patients should receive an appropriate treat-to-target strategy with csDMARDs and biologics if needed, he added.
A patient coming to clinic with difficult-to-treat RA who chronically uses GCs deserves special attention. The priority is bone protection with an anti-osteoporosis medication. “I found that JAK inhibitors, in some cases, help with the discontinuation of steroids, especially in those with residual pain. Therefore, I would think of switching medication,” Dr. Adami said.
For polymyalgia rheumatica, most clinicians will likely try to taper GCs around 52 weeks, similar to ACR/EULAR guidelines, according to Robert F. Spiera, MD, director of the Scleroderma and Vasculitis Program at Hospital for Special Surgery, New York City.
“I usually challenge patients with a more rapid taper, hoping to get them off GCs in 6 or even 4 months in some patients, recognizing that many will flare, and we will have to bump up their GC dose,” Dr. Spiera said.
For patients with lupus, GCs remain the most effective treatment, Dr. Merrill said. “The toxicities are unacceptable for long-term use. So we try to get in fast when we need them and get out as soon as possible after that, tapering down as fast as the patient can tolerate it.”
Unfortunately, that’s not always as fast as the clinician or patient hopes for, she said.
“New treatments are being developed that may help us avoid the constant use of steroids. However, it would be wonderful to see how these new safer types of steroids work in lupus,” she said.
Minimizing GCs is an important goal that should be considered and aimed for in every single patient, Dr. Sattui said. “Risk of GC toxicity should be considered in all patients, assessing [them] for cardiometabolic comorbidities, bone metabolic diseases, risk of infection, among many others.” Sticking to one specific GC-tapering protocol might not be achievable for every patient, however, based on disease characteristics, response, and other factors, he added.
Monitoring for GC toxicity is important and should occur during and after every single clinical visit, he emphasized. Patient education is critical. “Different tools have been developed and employed in clinical trials, both patient- and physician-facing instruments. Implementation to clinical practice of some of these should be the next step in order to achieve a more systematic approach.”
What to Consider for AI Symptoms
Clinicians also need to address AI in patients who are coming off GCs, Dr. Sattui said. He advised that symptoms suggestive of AI, including malaise, fatigue, nausea, and muscle and/or joint pain, should guide testing.
Even in the absence of symptoms, clinicians should consider assessing patients who have been on high doses for prolonged periods or obese or older adults who might be at a high risk for AI. “Signs to consider include weight loss, hypotension, or orthostatism,” he said.
Differentiating between AI symptoms and symptoms from the underlying disease can be a challenge. This requires a physical exam and workup, including morning serum cortisol. Collaboration with endocrinology colleagues and other treating providers is important, as well as patient education of symptoms and monitoring for possible adjustments in treating AI and other acute diseases, he said.
Dr. Smolen received research grants from AbbVie, AstraZeneca, Galapagos, and Eli Lilly. Dr. Adami received speaker fees and/or was a consultant for Galapagos, Theramex, Amgen, Eli Lilly, UCB, Fresenius Kabi, Bristol Myers Squibb, Abiogen, and Pfizer. Dr. Buttgereit’s disclosures included AbbVie, AstraZeneca, Grünenthal, Horizon Therapeutics, Mundipharma, Pfizer, and Roche. Dr. Merrill had no relevant disclosures. Dr. Spiera has been a consultant for Roche-Genentech, GlaxoSmithKline, Sanofi, ChemoCentryx, Novartis, Galderma, Cytori, AstraZeneca, Amgen, and AbbVie and received research grant support from GlaxoSmithKline, Roche-Genentech, AstraZeneca, Bristol Myers Squibb, Kadmon, Boehringer Ingelheim, Cytori, ChemoCentryx, Corbus, Novartis, Amgen, and AbbVie. Dr. Sattui reported receiving research support from AstraZeneca and GlaxoSmithKline (clinical trials), receiving consulting fees from Sanofi (funds toward research support), serving on advisory boards for Sanofi and Amgen (funds toward research support), and receiving speaker fees from Fresenius Kabi (funds toward research support).
A version of this article appeared on Medscape.com.
Now, 75 years after the first presentations were made on the “sensational” effects of cortisone in the treatment of rheumatoid arthritis (RA), glucocorticoids (GCs) are still highly relevant and widely used in the management of RA and other immune-mediated inflammatory diseases.
“It makes me smile because this is such an old drug, and we need it still so much. It still hasn’t been replaced,” Josef S. Smolen, MD, observed at annual European Congress of Rheumatology.
At low doses, GCs are highly effective as anti-inflammatory and anti-destructive agents in RA and many other diseases, said Dr. Smolen, a rheumatologist and immunologist and professor emeritus at the Medical University of Vienna, Austria.
But even after all this time, the mechanisms that lead to efficacy vs toxicity have yet to be clarified. “Such separation may provide further insights into future treatment options,” said Dr. Smolen.
His comments, made during a special session on the 75th anniversary of GCs at EULAR 2024, underscore the endless saga to manage GCs while finding better alternatives. Opinions differ on what the research says on toxicity and dosage and whether a long-term, low-dose option is viable. Alternative therapies are being studied, but those endeavors are still in the early stages of development.
While GCs are still used chronically in many patients, clinicians should always attempt to discontinue them whenever possible, Frank Buttgereit, MD, professor of rheumatology and deputy head of the Department of Rheumatology and Clinical Immunology at Charité – Universitätsmedizin Berlin, Germany, told attendees at the congress. Up to 60% of patients in registries use GCs, and many patients with early or established RA enter randomized controlled trials on GCs as maintenance therapy.
The ubiquity of GC usage stems in part from overprescribing by non-rheumatologist physicians who might not have access to or aren’t aware of newer biologics or disease-modifying antirheumatic drugs (DMARDs). “We see a lot of patients on long-term glucocorticoids, chronic use for years and years, decades of glucocorticoids,” said Giovanni Adami, MD, PhD, a rheumatologist at the University of Verona, Italy, who has coauthored several studies on the use of GCs.
Societies Agree: Discontinue as Fast as Possible
GCs have been associated with a long list of adverse events, most notably Cushing syndrome, hypertension, cardiovascular disease, osteoporosis, myopathy, peptic ulcer, adrenal insufficiency (AI), infections, mood disorders, ophthalmologic disorders such as cataracts, skin disorders, menstrual septic necrosis, and pancreatitis.
Dose matters, Dr. Smolen said, citing studies that found that cumulative GC doses of 1000 or 1100 mg increase risks. One study by German researchers found that doses above 10 mg/d significantly raised the hazard ratio for death.
Because high disease activity is also associated with an equally high mortality risk, “we have to balance this out: Active disease vs glucocorticoid use, especially in countries that have less access to modern therapies than we have in the more affluent Western regions,” Dr. Smolen said.
Rheumatology societies generally agree that clinicians should try to minimize GC use or eventually discontinue the therapy.
The American College of Rheumatology recommends not using GCs as part of the first-line treatment of RA. “And if you want to use [them], you should do that for less than 3 months, taper and discontinue as fast as possible, and use the lowest dose possible,” Dr. Adami said.
EULAR’s recommendation is more nuanced in that it allows for a lower dose but gives physicians more choice in how they want to handle GCs, Dr. Adami said. The task force added that all patients should try to taper down or discontinue as fast as possible, he said.
For GCs in the management of systemic lupus erythematosus, a EULAR task force recommended that the type and severity of organ involvement should determine dose, with a long-term goal of maintaining the dose < 5 mg/d or possibly withdrawing it.
EULAR also recommends GC bridging when initiating or changing conventional synthetic (cs) DMARDs. This effectively dismisses the use of GCs when using biologic DMARDs or targeted synthetic DMARDs. As a bridging therapy, EULAR recommends either a single parenteral dose of GC or a predefined tapering or discontinuation scheme within 3 months, when starting an oral GC.
Low-Dose Approach Gains Ground
While saying he’d be the first physician to eliminate GCs whenever possible, Dr. Buttgereit made the case before the EULAR Congress that GCs in low doses could still play a role in treatment.
Many physicians believe that very low doses between 2 and 4 mg/d are a realistic therapy option for RA, he said, adding that a mean daily usage < 5 mg could be used over a longer period with relatively low risk.
Several studies he coauthored tested the 5-mg approach. The GLORIA trial compared 5 mg/d prednisolone and placebo in 451 patients aged 65 years and older with active RA over the course of 2 years. The researchers found that patients on prednisolone had a mean Disease Activity Score in 28 joints (DAS28) that was 0.37 points lower and mean joint damage score that was 1.7 points lower than those of patients on placebo, suggesting that the GC had long-term benefits in these patients with RA.
The tradeoff was a 24% increase in the risk of having at least one adverse event of special interest, but most of these events were non-severe infections, Dr. Buttgereit said.
Another study, the SEMIRA trial, assigned 128 patients to a continued regimen of prednisone 5 mg/d for 24 weeks. Another group of 131 patients received a tapered-prednisone regimen. All patients received tocilizumab 162 mg with or without csDMARDs, maintained at stable doses.
Patients in the first cohort achieved superior disease activity control than those in the tapered regimen group. “The side effects showed that in the tapering prednisone group, there were more treatment-emergent adverse effects in this double-blind trial as compared to the continued prednisone group,” Dr. Buttgereit said.
One limitation of the SEMIRA trial was that it studied the effect of tocilizumab as a GC-sparing agent, and it didn’t consider using a tumor necrosis factor or Janus kinase (JAK) inhibitor, which might have a more potent effect on pain and GC dose reduction, Dr. Adami said. “Why do we need to use glucocorticoids if we know they might be detrimental, if we know there might be some other option in our armamentarium?”
Other studies have shown that low-dose GC protocols can be used with standard treatment, according to Sebastian E. Sattui, MD, assistant professor of medicine and director of the Vasculitis Center at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine.
“Examples of this are the LoVAS and PEXIVAS studies for antineutrophil cytoplasmic antibody-associated [ANCA] vasculitis. This has been highlighted in existing treatment recommendations for ANCA vasculitis and systemic lupus erythematosus nephritis,” Dr. Sattui said.
Two-year results from LoVAS showed noninferiority in remission induction rates and rates of relapse and significantly less frequent serious adverse events between a reduced-dose GC regimen at 0.5 mg/kg/d and conventional high-dose GC regimen at 1 mg/kg/d plus rituximab for ANCA vasculitis.
PEXIVAS demonstrated the noninferiority of a reduced-dose regimen of GCs vs a standard-dose regimen with respect to death or end-stage kidney disease in patients with severe disease involvement.
Debating the Toxicity Threshold
Are low GC dosages significantly associated with adverse events like mortality, cardiovascular, or diabetes risk? It depends on who you ask.
Much of the toxicity data on GCs come from inadequately powered or controlled studies and often refer to doses that currently are considered too high, Dr. Buttgereit said. His presentation highlighted a study from Hong Kong, a time-varying analysis of GC dose and incident risk for major adverse cardiovascular events (MACE) in more than 12,000 patients with RA. Researchers found that GC regimens ≥ 5 mg/d significantly increased the risk for MACE. Comparatively, doses below this threshold did not confer excessive risk, he said.
Low-dose GCs are lesser toxic than high-dose GCs, noted Joan Merrill, MD, a professor with the Arthritis and Clinical Immunology Research Program at The University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center, Oklahoma City. “There may be less weight gain, less chance of acne, and less risk for all the slower, more organ-threatening side effects.”
Dr. Merrill, who cares for patients with lupus, said physicians can keep lupus in check for years, using constant, low-dose GCs. “The one thing we know is that steroids work.” But over many years, damage may still occur, she cautioned.
But even a low dose could present health problems to patients. The GLORIA trial of patients with RA, which showed promising results on disease control with 5 mg/d, found an association between GCs and increased risk for infection and osteoporosis. There was a higher overall risk for adverse events related to skin, infections, and bone mineral density changes. Bone mineral density loss and fractures were more common in the GC group, Adami noted.
Surprisingly, some of the trial’s authors said patients could handle such adverse events. But what is your threshold of “acceptable?” Dr. Adami asked.
Other studies have found associations between low-dose GC regimens and adverse events. Researchers of a 2023 study reported bone mineral density loss in patients with inflammatory rheumatic musculoskeletal diseases on a 2.5-mg/d regimen. Another decade-long analysis of Medicare and Optum data found a link between serious infection and low-dose GCs in patients receiving stable DMARD therapy. Investigators reported risk even at daily doses of ≤ 5 mg.
Dr. Adami acknowledged that these studies may have “confounding by indication,” a channeling bias in which people with severe RA are more likely to be treated with GCs. For this reason, it’s a challenge to disentangle the independent role of GCs from the disease activity itself, he said.
The big question is: Why don’t these observational studies show an increased risk for adverse events with biologic drugs that are given to more severe patients? “That confirms the hypothesis that confounding by indication for GCs is minimal, and most of the risk is driven by GCs,” he said.
Tapering Options Across Diseases
Rheumatologists in the field continue to navigate GC-tapering options and treatment combinations that reduce the cumulative use of GCs over time, finding their own solutions based on the conditions they treat.
In his EULAR presentation, Dr. Buttgereit suggested that current therapeutic approaches for RA may be too narrow when they don’t consider the possibility of including very low doses of GCs.
For RA, “why shouldn’t we not do a combination of something like methotrexate plus a JAK inhibitor or a biological,” plus a very low dose of GCs < 5 mg/d, he asked.
However, Dr. Adami said he generally avoids GCs if RA disease activity is not severe (based on DAS28) and if the patient has a visual analog scale pain score < 7. “Nonetheless, even in patients with more severe disease, I would avoid GCs for more than 3 months. Usually, 1 month of steroids, tapered rapidly and discontinued.”
All patients should receive an appropriate treat-to-target strategy with csDMARDs and biologics if needed, he added.
A patient coming to clinic with difficult-to-treat RA who chronically uses GCs deserves special attention. The priority is bone protection with an anti-osteoporosis medication. “I found that JAK inhibitors, in some cases, help with the discontinuation of steroids, especially in those with residual pain. Therefore, I would think of switching medication,” Dr. Adami said.
For polymyalgia rheumatica, most clinicians will likely try to taper GCs around 52 weeks, similar to ACR/EULAR guidelines, according to Robert F. Spiera, MD, director of the Scleroderma and Vasculitis Program at Hospital for Special Surgery, New York City.
“I usually challenge patients with a more rapid taper, hoping to get them off GCs in 6 or even 4 months in some patients, recognizing that many will flare, and we will have to bump up their GC dose,” Dr. Spiera said.
For patients with lupus, GCs remain the most effective treatment, Dr. Merrill said. “The toxicities are unacceptable for long-term use. So we try to get in fast when we need them and get out as soon as possible after that, tapering down as fast as the patient can tolerate it.”
Unfortunately, that’s not always as fast as the clinician or patient hopes for, she said.
“New treatments are being developed that may help us avoid the constant use of steroids. However, it would be wonderful to see how these new safer types of steroids work in lupus,” she said.
Minimizing GCs is an important goal that should be considered and aimed for in every single patient, Dr. Sattui said. “Risk of GC toxicity should be considered in all patients, assessing [them] for cardiometabolic comorbidities, bone metabolic diseases, risk of infection, among many others.” Sticking to one specific GC-tapering protocol might not be achievable for every patient, however, based on disease characteristics, response, and other factors, he added.
Monitoring for GC toxicity is important and should occur during and after every single clinical visit, he emphasized. Patient education is critical. “Different tools have been developed and employed in clinical trials, both patient- and physician-facing instruments. Implementation to clinical practice of some of these should be the next step in order to achieve a more systematic approach.”
What to Consider for AI Symptoms
Clinicians also need to address AI in patients who are coming off GCs, Dr. Sattui said. He advised that symptoms suggestive of AI, including malaise, fatigue, nausea, and muscle and/or joint pain, should guide testing.
Even in the absence of symptoms, clinicians should consider assessing patients who have been on high doses for prolonged periods or obese or older adults who might be at a high risk for AI. “Signs to consider include weight loss, hypotension, or orthostatism,” he said.
Differentiating between AI symptoms and symptoms from the underlying disease can be a challenge. This requires a physical exam and workup, including morning serum cortisol. Collaboration with endocrinology colleagues and other treating providers is important, as well as patient education of symptoms and monitoring for possible adjustments in treating AI and other acute diseases, he said.
Dr. Smolen received research grants from AbbVie, AstraZeneca, Galapagos, and Eli Lilly. Dr. Adami received speaker fees and/or was a consultant for Galapagos, Theramex, Amgen, Eli Lilly, UCB, Fresenius Kabi, Bristol Myers Squibb, Abiogen, and Pfizer. Dr. Buttgereit’s disclosures included AbbVie, AstraZeneca, Grünenthal, Horizon Therapeutics, Mundipharma, Pfizer, and Roche. Dr. Merrill had no relevant disclosures. Dr. Spiera has been a consultant for Roche-Genentech, GlaxoSmithKline, Sanofi, ChemoCentryx, Novartis, Galderma, Cytori, AstraZeneca, Amgen, and AbbVie and received research grant support from GlaxoSmithKline, Roche-Genentech, AstraZeneca, Bristol Myers Squibb, Kadmon, Boehringer Ingelheim, Cytori, ChemoCentryx, Corbus, Novartis, Amgen, and AbbVie. Dr. Sattui reported receiving research support from AstraZeneca and GlaxoSmithKline (clinical trials), receiving consulting fees from Sanofi (funds toward research support), serving on advisory boards for Sanofi and Amgen (funds toward research support), and receiving speaker fees from Fresenius Kabi (funds toward research support).
A version of this article appeared on Medscape.com.
Now, 75 years after the first presentations were made on the “sensational” effects of cortisone in the treatment of rheumatoid arthritis (RA), glucocorticoids (GCs) are still highly relevant and widely used in the management of RA and other immune-mediated inflammatory diseases.
“It makes me smile because this is such an old drug, and we need it still so much. It still hasn’t been replaced,” Josef S. Smolen, MD, observed at annual European Congress of Rheumatology.
At low doses, GCs are highly effective as anti-inflammatory and anti-destructive agents in RA and many other diseases, said Dr. Smolen, a rheumatologist and immunologist and professor emeritus at the Medical University of Vienna, Austria.
But even after all this time, the mechanisms that lead to efficacy vs toxicity have yet to be clarified. “Such separation may provide further insights into future treatment options,” said Dr. Smolen.
His comments, made during a special session on the 75th anniversary of GCs at EULAR 2024, underscore the endless saga to manage GCs while finding better alternatives. Opinions differ on what the research says on toxicity and dosage and whether a long-term, low-dose option is viable. Alternative therapies are being studied, but those endeavors are still in the early stages of development.
While GCs are still used chronically in many patients, clinicians should always attempt to discontinue them whenever possible, Frank Buttgereit, MD, professor of rheumatology and deputy head of the Department of Rheumatology and Clinical Immunology at Charité – Universitätsmedizin Berlin, Germany, told attendees at the congress. Up to 60% of patients in registries use GCs, and many patients with early or established RA enter randomized controlled trials on GCs as maintenance therapy.
The ubiquity of GC usage stems in part from overprescribing by non-rheumatologist physicians who might not have access to or aren’t aware of newer biologics or disease-modifying antirheumatic drugs (DMARDs). “We see a lot of patients on long-term glucocorticoids, chronic use for years and years, decades of glucocorticoids,” said Giovanni Adami, MD, PhD, a rheumatologist at the University of Verona, Italy, who has coauthored several studies on the use of GCs.
Societies Agree: Discontinue as Fast as Possible
GCs have been associated with a long list of adverse events, most notably Cushing syndrome, hypertension, cardiovascular disease, osteoporosis, myopathy, peptic ulcer, adrenal insufficiency (AI), infections, mood disorders, ophthalmologic disorders such as cataracts, skin disorders, menstrual septic necrosis, and pancreatitis.
Dose matters, Dr. Smolen said, citing studies that found that cumulative GC doses of 1000 or 1100 mg increase risks. One study by German researchers found that doses above 10 mg/d significantly raised the hazard ratio for death.
Because high disease activity is also associated with an equally high mortality risk, “we have to balance this out: Active disease vs glucocorticoid use, especially in countries that have less access to modern therapies than we have in the more affluent Western regions,” Dr. Smolen said.
Rheumatology societies generally agree that clinicians should try to minimize GC use or eventually discontinue the therapy.
The American College of Rheumatology recommends not using GCs as part of the first-line treatment of RA. “And if you want to use [them], you should do that for less than 3 months, taper and discontinue as fast as possible, and use the lowest dose possible,” Dr. Adami said.
EULAR’s recommendation is more nuanced in that it allows for a lower dose but gives physicians more choice in how they want to handle GCs, Dr. Adami said. The task force added that all patients should try to taper down or discontinue as fast as possible, he said.
For GCs in the management of systemic lupus erythematosus, a EULAR task force recommended that the type and severity of organ involvement should determine dose, with a long-term goal of maintaining the dose < 5 mg/d or possibly withdrawing it.
EULAR also recommends GC bridging when initiating or changing conventional synthetic (cs) DMARDs. This effectively dismisses the use of GCs when using biologic DMARDs or targeted synthetic DMARDs. As a bridging therapy, EULAR recommends either a single parenteral dose of GC or a predefined tapering or discontinuation scheme within 3 months, when starting an oral GC.
Low-Dose Approach Gains Ground
While saying he’d be the first physician to eliminate GCs whenever possible, Dr. Buttgereit made the case before the EULAR Congress that GCs in low doses could still play a role in treatment.
Many physicians believe that very low doses between 2 and 4 mg/d are a realistic therapy option for RA, he said, adding that a mean daily usage < 5 mg could be used over a longer period with relatively low risk.
Several studies he coauthored tested the 5-mg approach. The GLORIA trial compared 5 mg/d prednisolone and placebo in 451 patients aged 65 years and older with active RA over the course of 2 years. The researchers found that patients on prednisolone had a mean Disease Activity Score in 28 joints (DAS28) that was 0.37 points lower and mean joint damage score that was 1.7 points lower than those of patients on placebo, suggesting that the GC had long-term benefits in these patients with RA.
The tradeoff was a 24% increase in the risk of having at least one adverse event of special interest, but most of these events were non-severe infections, Dr. Buttgereit said.
Another study, the SEMIRA trial, assigned 128 patients to a continued regimen of prednisone 5 mg/d for 24 weeks. Another group of 131 patients received a tapered-prednisone regimen. All patients received tocilizumab 162 mg with or without csDMARDs, maintained at stable doses.
Patients in the first cohort achieved superior disease activity control than those in the tapered regimen group. “The side effects showed that in the tapering prednisone group, there were more treatment-emergent adverse effects in this double-blind trial as compared to the continued prednisone group,” Dr. Buttgereit said.
One limitation of the SEMIRA trial was that it studied the effect of tocilizumab as a GC-sparing agent, and it didn’t consider using a tumor necrosis factor or Janus kinase (JAK) inhibitor, which might have a more potent effect on pain and GC dose reduction, Dr. Adami said. “Why do we need to use glucocorticoids if we know they might be detrimental, if we know there might be some other option in our armamentarium?”
Other studies have shown that low-dose GC protocols can be used with standard treatment, according to Sebastian E. Sattui, MD, assistant professor of medicine and director of the Vasculitis Center at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine.
“Examples of this are the LoVAS and PEXIVAS studies for antineutrophil cytoplasmic antibody-associated [ANCA] vasculitis. This has been highlighted in existing treatment recommendations for ANCA vasculitis and systemic lupus erythematosus nephritis,” Dr. Sattui said.
Two-year results from LoVAS showed noninferiority in remission induction rates and rates of relapse and significantly less frequent serious adverse events between a reduced-dose GC regimen at 0.5 mg/kg/d and conventional high-dose GC regimen at 1 mg/kg/d plus rituximab for ANCA vasculitis.
PEXIVAS demonstrated the noninferiority of a reduced-dose regimen of GCs vs a standard-dose regimen with respect to death or end-stage kidney disease in patients with severe disease involvement.
Debating the Toxicity Threshold
Are low GC dosages significantly associated with adverse events like mortality, cardiovascular, or diabetes risk? It depends on who you ask.
Much of the toxicity data on GCs come from inadequately powered or controlled studies and often refer to doses that currently are considered too high, Dr. Buttgereit said. His presentation highlighted a study from Hong Kong, a time-varying analysis of GC dose and incident risk for major adverse cardiovascular events (MACE) in more than 12,000 patients with RA. Researchers found that GC regimens ≥ 5 mg/d significantly increased the risk for MACE. Comparatively, doses below this threshold did not confer excessive risk, he said.
Low-dose GCs are lesser toxic than high-dose GCs, noted Joan Merrill, MD, a professor with the Arthritis and Clinical Immunology Research Program at The University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center, Oklahoma City. “There may be less weight gain, less chance of acne, and less risk for all the slower, more organ-threatening side effects.”
Dr. Merrill, who cares for patients with lupus, said physicians can keep lupus in check for years, using constant, low-dose GCs. “The one thing we know is that steroids work.” But over many years, damage may still occur, she cautioned.
But even a low dose could present health problems to patients. The GLORIA trial of patients with RA, which showed promising results on disease control with 5 mg/d, found an association between GCs and increased risk for infection and osteoporosis. There was a higher overall risk for adverse events related to skin, infections, and bone mineral density changes. Bone mineral density loss and fractures were more common in the GC group, Adami noted.
Surprisingly, some of the trial’s authors said patients could handle such adverse events. But what is your threshold of “acceptable?” Dr. Adami asked.
Other studies have found associations between low-dose GC regimens and adverse events. Researchers of a 2023 study reported bone mineral density loss in patients with inflammatory rheumatic musculoskeletal diseases on a 2.5-mg/d regimen. Another decade-long analysis of Medicare and Optum data found a link between serious infection and low-dose GCs in patients receiving stable DMARD therapy. Investigators reported risk even at daily doses of ≤ 5 mg.
Dr. Adami acknowledged that these studies may have “confounding by indication,” a channeling bias in which people with severe RA are more likely to be treated with GCs. For this reason, it’s a challenge to disentangle the independent role of GCs from the disease activity itself, he said.
The big question is: Why don’t these observational studies show an increased risk for adverse events with biologic drugs that are given to more severe patients? “That confirms the hypothesis that confounding by indication for GCs is minimal, and most of the risk is driven by GCs,” he said.
Tapering Options Across Diseases
Rheumatologists in the field continue to navigate GC-tapering options and treatment combinations that reduce the cumulative use of GCs over time, finding their own solutions based on the conditions they treat.
In his EULAR presentation, Dr. Buttgereit suggested that current therapeutic approaches for RA may be too narrow when they don’t consider the possibility of including very low doses of GCs.
For RA, “why shouldn’t we not do a combination of something like methotrexate plus a JAK inhibitor or a biological,” plus a very low dose of GCs < 5 mg/d, he asked.
However, Dr. Adami said he generally avoids GCs if RA disease activity is not severe (based on DAS28) and if the patient has a visual analog scale pain score < 7. “Nonetheless, even in patients with more severe disease, I would avoid GCs for more than 3 months. Usually, 1 month of steroids, tapered rapidly and discontinued.”
All patients should receive an appropriate treat-to-target strategy with csDMARDs and biologics if needed, he added.
A patient coming to clinic with difficult-to-treat RA who chronically uses GCs deserves special attention. The priority is bone protection with an anti-osteoporosis medication. “I found that JAK inhibitors, in some cases, help with the discontinuation of steroids, especially in those with residual pain. Therefore, I would think of switching medication,” Dr. Adami said.
For polymyalgia rheumatica, most clinicians will likely try to taper GCs around 52 weeks, similar to ACR/EULAR guidelines, according to Robert F. Spiera, MD, director of the Scleroderma and Vasculitis Program at Hospital for Special Surgery, New York City.
“I usually challenge patients with a more rapid taper, hoping to get them off GCs in 6 or even 4 months in some patients, recognizing that many will flare, and we will have to bump up their GC dose,” Dr. Spiera said.
For patients with lupus, GCs remain the most effective treatment, Dr. Merrill said. “The toxicities are unacceptable for long-term use. So we try to get in fast when we need them and get out as soon as possible after that, tapering down as fast as the patient can tolerate it.”
Unfortunately, that’s not always as fast as the clinician or patient hopes for, she said.
“New treatments are being developed that may help us avoid the constant use of steroids. However, it would be wonderful to see how these new safer types of steroids work in lupus,” she said.
Minimizing GCs is an important goal that should be considered and aimed for in every single patient, Dr. Sattui said. “Risk of GC toxicity should be considered in all patients, assessing [them] for cardiometabolic comorbidities, bone metabolic diseases, risk of infection, among many others.” Sticking to one specific GC-tapering protocol might not be achievable for every patient, however, based on disease characteristics, response, and other factors, he added.
Monitoring for GC toxicity is important and should occur during and after every single clinical visit, he emphasized. Patient education is critical. “Different tools have been developed and employed in clinical trials, both patient- and physician-facing instruments. Implementation to clinical practice of some of these should be the next step in order to achieve a more systematic approach.”
What to Consider for AI Symptoms
Clinicians also need to address AI in patients who are coming off GCs, Dr. Sattui said. He advised that symptoms suggestive of AI, including malaise, fatigue, nausea, and muscle and/or joint pain, should guide testing.
Even in the absence of symptoms, clinicians should consider assessing patients who have been on high doses for prolonged periods or obese or older adults who might be at a high risk for AI. “Signs to consider include weight loss, hypotension, or orthostatism,” he said.
Differentiating between AI symptoms and symptoms from the underlying disease can be a challenge. This requires a physical exam and workup, including morning serum cortisol. Collaboration with endocrinology colleagues and other treating providers is important, as well as patient education of symptoms and monitoring for possible adjustments in treating AI and other acute diseases, he said.
Dr. Smolen received research grants from AbbVie, AstraZeneca, Galapagos, and Eli Lilly. Dr. Adami received speaker fees and/or was a consultant for Galapagos, Theramex, Amgen, Eli Lilly, UCB, Fresenius Kabi, Bristol Myers Squibb, Abiogen, and Pfizer. Dr. Buttgereit’s disclosures included AbbVie, AstraZeneca, Grünenthal, Horizon Therapeutics, Mundipharma, Pfizer, and Roche. Dr. Merrill had no relevant disclosures. Dr. Spiera has been a consultant for Roche-Genentech, GlaxoSmithKline, Sanofi, ChemoCentryx, Novartis, Galderma, Cytori, AstraZeneca, Amgen, and AbbVie and received research grant support from GlaxoSmithKline, Roche-Genentech, AstraZeneca, Bristol Myers Squibb, Kadmon, Boehringer Ingelheim, Cytori, ChemoCentryx, Corbus, Novartis, Amgen, and AbbVie. Dr. Sattui reported receiving research support from AstraZeneca and GlaxoSmithKline (clinical trials), receiving consulting fees from Sanofi (funds toward research support), serving on advisory boards for Sanofi and Amgen (funds toward research support), and receiving speaker fees from Fresenius Kabi (funds toward research support).
A version of this article appeared on Medscape.com.
FROM EULAR 2024
New Drugs, Treatment Strategies Aim to Lessen Rheumatic Diseases’ Reliance on Steroids
. Selective GC receptor agonists and modulators and GC plus hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase inhibitor combination therapy are some of the approaches under consideration.
“There is growing observational data that confirms the GC-sparing effect seen in some of these clinical trials in real-world data,” said Sebastian E. Sattui, MD, assistant professor of medicine and director of the Vasculitis Center at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center, Pittsburgh.
GC minimization is an important goal, “and the data emerging from these trials should be reassuring for rheumatology providers,” Dr. Sattui said.
HSD-1 Inhibitors Under Study
11ß-Hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase type 1 (11ß-HSD1) is a tissue-specific intracellular modulator of GC action that’s been trialed for a number of rheumatic conditions. “HSD-1 deficiency or inhibition has been consistently associated with reduced GC side effects in mouse and human,” wrote the authors of a study testing the coadministration of HSD-1 inhibitor SPI-62 (clofutriben) with prednisolone in patients with polymyalgia rheumatica (PMR) to measure its impact on efficacy and toxicity.
Lead study author David Katz, PhD, chief scientific officer at Sparrow Pharmaceuticals, presented results at the at the annual European Congress of Rheumatology.
GCs are often the first-line therapy with PMR. However, it’s very difficult for patients to stop taking GCs once they start taking them. The study included patients with PMR who were taking 10 mg/d prednisolone and didn’t require a dose increase. For the study, they continued prednisolone without dose reduction for 4 weeks, receiving either SPI-62 6 mg/d or a matching placebo for 2 weeks.
During SPI-62 treatment, researchers in sequential cohorts maintained daily prednisolone doses at 10 mg, adjusted to 15 mg or adjusted to 20 mg.
A 10-mg dose of prednisolone combined with 6 mg of SPI-62 demonstrated less efficacy compared with placebo but improved upon prednisolone toxicities such as bone formation and resorption biomarkers, lipidemia, and insulin resistance. Doubling the dose to 20 mg prednisolone combined with SPI-62 achieved similar efficacy and maintained improvement of prednisolone toxicity markers.
“In patients with PMR, when we double the dose of prednisolone during coadministration with a potent HSD-1 inhibitor, we are able to have similar stability of symptoms, physical function, and systemic inflammation. At the same time, we are able to show improvements on biomarkers of bone turnover and insulin resistance,” Dr. Katz informed the EULAR 2024 audience.
An ongoing phase 2 clinical trial is testing SPI-62 in patients with endogenous Cushing syndrome. “It’s a longer-term trial, so we’re able to see at least an individual patient’s more clinical outcomes such as reversal of Cushing’s-associated myopathy and the ability of patients to discontinue all of their antidiabetic medications and yet still have good glycemic control,” he said.
Another research team from the United Kingdom explored whether AZD4017, an inhibitor of human 11ß-HSD1, could mitigate GC effects. The researchers randomly assigned 32 healthy male volunteers to AZD4017 or placebo, along with prednisolone. They reported a worsening of hepatic insulin sensitivity in the placebo group but not in the AZD4017 group, and protective effects of AZD4017 on markers of lipid metabolism and bone turnover, as well as lowered nighttime blood pressure. The results signified that coadministration of AZD4017 with prednisolone in men could be a way to reduce GC side effects.
In a Japanese phase 1/2 study, 11ß-HSD1 inhibitor S-707106 proved useful as an insulin sensitizer and antisarcopenic and anti-obesity medication in 16 patients with Cushing syndrome and autonomous cortisol secretion.
Novel Antitumor Necrosis Factor (TNF) Antibody Plus GC Receptor Modulator Conjugate
A novel antibody-drug conjugate comprising the anti-TNF monoclonal antibody adalimumab (ABBV-3373) linked to a GC receptor modulator shows promise as a GC alternative.
A notable 2022 study authored by Frank Buttgereit, MD, and other researchers assessed its safety and efficacy in a randomized, double-blind, active-controlled, proof-of-concept trial.
ABBV-3373 “was designed to potentially allow precise targeting of activated immune cells while significantly dampening inflammation and minimizing the systemic side effects associated with glucocorticoids,” according to AbbVie, its manufacturer.
A total of 48 adults with moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis receiving background methotrexate were randomized to receive either ABBV-3373 (n = 31) or adalimumab (n = 17). The novel drug at 12 weeks showed a −2.65 reduction in the Disease Activity Score in 28 joints using C-reactive protein, compared with −2.13 for adalimumab. Researchers also predicted ABBV-3373 to be more effective than adalimumab based on in-trial and historical adalimumab data.
“We have great expectations for this molecule,” said Giovanni Adami, MD, PhD, a rheumatologist at the University of Verona, Verona, Italy, who has coauthored several studies on the use of GCs. Plans are underway for a phase 3 study with ABBV-3373.
C5a and Interleukin (IL)-6 Receptor Inhibitors as GC-Sparing Drugs
Investigators in a 2021 paper explored whether the C5a receptor inhibitor avacopan could effectively treat patients with antineutrophil cytoplasmic antibody (ANCA)-associated vasculitis without the need for daily GCs, following treatment with either cyclophosphamide or rituximab. They randomized 331 patients to receive avacopan or prednisone given on a tapering schedule for 20 weeks (60 mg/d tapered to discontinuation by week 21). “Avacopan was noninferior but not superior to prednisone taper with respect to remission at week 26 and was superior to prednisone taper with respect to sustained remission at week 52,” the investigators summarized.
A longer trial should test avacopan’s safety and durability in patients with ANCA-associated vasculitis, they recommended.
Sarilumab, a human monoclonal antibody that binds IL-6 receptor alpha and blocks the IL-6 pathway, yielded good results in the phase 3 SAPHYR trial as an alternative for patients with PMR who relapse while tapering prednisone therapy.
Researchers in the SAPHYR trial randomly assigned 118 patients 1:1 to receive a twice-monthly subcutaneous injection of sarilumab over 52 weeks plus a 14-week prednisone taper or placebo plus a 52-week prednisone taper. Patients in each group received a tapered GC dose initially at 15 mg/d for 2 weeks in a blinded fashion to control for disease at baseline.
Sarilumab effectively sustained remission in patients, significantly reducing the GC dose compared with placebo.
Disease flare after clinical remission took place in 57% of patients in the placebo group, vs 24% in the sarilumab group. “The placebo-treated patients had a fairly traditional 52-week GC taper. The patients treated with sarilumab had a very rapid GC taper,” said lead study author Robert Spiera, MD, director of the Scleroderma, Vasculitis and Myositis Center at the Hospital for Special Surgery, New York City.
In his own practice, Dr. Spiera often treats his patients with new-onset PMR with a fairly rapid GC taper, akin to what was used in SAPHYR, recognizing that a portion of these patients can be successfully treated with a relatively brief course of GCs, although the majority will need to have “rescue” therapy for flares with that approach.
In SAPHYR, everyone had previously flared and started at 15 mg/d prednisone at study entry. “In my practice, I don’t always raise the prednisone to 15 mg for a PMR flare. I raise it to whatever dose is necessary to capture control of polymyalgia rheumatica symptoms as I add sarilumab. Often, that is less than 15 mg,” he clarified.
Patients with giant cell arteritis (GCA) also struggle to taper or stop using GCs. For these patients, the IL-6 receptor alpha inhibitor tocilizumab has demonstrated benefits in shortening the GC-tapering period.
In the GiACTA trial, researchers randomly assigned 251 patients in a 2:1:1:1 ratio with GCA to receive subcutaneous tocilizumab weekly or every other week, combined with a 26-week prednisone taper, or placebo combined with a prednisone taper over a period of either 26 weeks or 52 weeks. Patients in the tocilizumab arms combined with a 26-week prednisone taper had superior results with GC-free remission compared with those who underwent prednisone tapering plus placebo.
Subsequent studies have investigated the use of tocilizumab in shortening GC tapers. One pilot clinical trial assessed the use of tocilizumab monotherapy following ultrashort-term GC treatment (three pulses of 500 mg of methylprednisolone) in 18 patients with new-onset GCA. Researchers found that approximately 70% of patients were able to achieve and maintain disease remission for 52 weeks. One patient developed anterior ischemic optic neuropathy.
Another pilot study of 30 patients with GCA (50% new-onset disease, 50% relapsing disease) concluded that a year of tocilizumab combined with 8 weeks of prednisone could lead to remission. The majority of patients (77% of 30) maintained prednisone-free remission at 52 weeks, and no cases of anterior ischemic optic neuropathy were observed.
“The results of the studies mentioned above are encouraging and suggest that in the setting of IL-6 blockade treatment with tocilizumab, GC tapers shorter than 6 months may be possible. However, in order to be able to recommend short prednisone tapers in GCA, clinical trials comparing the efficacy and safety of different prednisone tapers [such as 8 vs 26 weeks] are required,” said Sebastian H. Unizony, MD, the study’s lead author and an assistant professor at Harvard Medical School and codirector of the Massachusetts General Hospital Rheumatology Vasculitis Program, Boston.
“The last several years have been a breakthrough period in GCA, which started with addition of tocilizumab to the therapeutic armamentarium against this disease and continued with several other agents showing promising results in phase 2 trials [of abatacept, mavrilimumab, and secukinumab] and a recently successful phase 3 trial with upadacitinib,” Dr. Unizony said.
Dr. Katz is a corporate officer and stockholder of Sparrow Pharmaceuticals. Dr. Adami has received speaker fees and/or has consulted for Galapagos, Theramex, Amgen, Eli Lilly, UCB, Fresenius Kabi, Bristol Myers Squibb, Abiogen, and Pfizer. Dr. Spiera has been a consultant for Roche-Genentech, GlaxoSmithKline, Sanofi, ChemoCentryx, Novartis, Galderma, Cytori, AstraZeneca, Amgen, and AbbVie, and has received research grant support from GlaxoSmithKline, Roche-Genentech, AstraZeneca, Bristol Myers Squibb, Kadmon, Boehringer Ingelheim, Cytori, ChemoCentryx, Corbus, Novartis, Amgen, and AbbVie.
A version of this article appeared on Medscape.com.
. Selective GC receptor agonists and modulators and GC plus hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase inhibitor combination therapy are some of the approaches under consideration.
“There is growing observational data that confirms the GC-sparing effect seen in some of these clinical trials in real-world data,” said Sebastian E. Sattui, MD, assistant professor of medicine and director of the Vasculitis Center at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center, Pittsburgh.
GC minimization is an important goal, “and the data emerging from these trials should be reassuring for rheumatology providers,” Dr. Sattui said.
HSD-1 Inhibitors Under Study
11ß-Hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase type 1 (11ß-HSD1) is a tissue-specific intracellular modulator of GC action that’s been trialed for a number of rheumatic conditions. “HSD-1 deficiency or inhibition has been consistently associated with reduced GC side effects in mouse and human,” wrote the authors of a study testing the coadministration of HSD-1 inhibitor SPI-62 (clofutriben) with prednisolone in patients with polymyalgia rheumatica (PMR) to measure its impact on efficacy and toxicity.
Lead study author David Katz, PhD, chief scientific officer at Sparrow Pharmaceuticals, presented results at the at the annual European Congress of Rheumatology.
GCs are often the first-line therapy with PMR. However, it’s very difficult for patients to stop taking GCs once they start taking them. The study included patients with PMR who were taking 10 mg/d prednisolone and didn’t require a dose increase. For the study, they continued prednisolone without dose reduction for 4 weeks, receiving either SPI-62 6 mg/d or a matching placebo for 2 weeks.
During SPI-62 treatment, researchers in sequential cohorts maintained daily prednisolone doses at 10 mg, adjusted to 15 mg or adjusted to 20 mg.
A 10-mg dose of prednisolone combined with 6 mg of SPI-62 demonstrated less efficacy compared with placebo but improved upon prednisolone toxicities such as bone formation and resorption biomarkers, lipidemia, and insulin resistance. Doubling the dose to 20 mg prednisolone combined with SPI-62 achieved similar efficacy and maintained improvement of prednisolone toxicity markers.
“In patients with PMR, when we double the dose of prednisolone during coadministration with a potent HSD-1 inhibitor, we are able to have similar stability of symptoms, physical function, and systemic inflammation. At the same time, we are able to show improvements on biomarkers of bone turnover and insulin resistance,” Dr. Katz informed the EULAR 2024 audience.
An ongoing phase 2 clinical trial is testing SPI-62 in patients with endogenous Cushing syndrome. “It’s a longer-term trial, so we’re able to see at least an individual patient’s more clinical outcomes such as reversal of Cushing’s-associated myopathy and the ability of patients to discontinue all of their antidiabetic medications and yet still have good glycemic control,” he said.
Another research team from the United Kingdom explored whether AZD4017, an inhibitor of human 11ß-HSD1, could mitigate GC effects. The researchers randomly assigned 32 healthy male volunteers to AZD4017 or placebo, along with prednisolone. They reported a worsening of hepatic insulin sensitivity in the placebo group but not in the AZD4017 group, and protective effects of AZD4017 on markers of lipid metabolism and bone turnover, as well as lowered nighttime blood pressure. The results signified that coadministration of AZD4017 with prednisolone in men could be a way to reduce GC side effects.
In a Japanese phase 1/2 study, 11ß-HSD1 inhibitor S-707106 proved useful as an insulin sensitizer and antisarcopenic and anti-obesity medication in 16 patients with Cushing syndrome and autonomous cortisol secretion.
Novel Antitumor Necrosis Factor (TNF) Antibody Plus GC Receptor Modulator Conjugate
A novel antibody-drug conjugate comprising the anti-TNF monoclonal antibody adalimumab (ABBV-3373) linked to a GC receptor modulator shows promise as a GC alternative.
A notable 2022 study authored by Frank Buttgereit, MD, and other researchers assessed its safety and efficacy in a randomized, double-blind, active-controlled, proof-of-concept trial.
ABBV-3373 “was designed to potentially allow precise targeting of activated immune cells while significantly dampening inflammation and minimizing the systemic side effects associated with glucocorticoids,” according to AbbVie, its manufacturer.
A total of 48 adults with moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis receiving background methotrexate were randomized to receive either ABBV-3373 (n = 31) or adalimumab (n = 17). The novel drug at 12 weeks showed a −2.65 reduction in the Disease Activity Score in 28 joints using C-reactive protein, compared with −2.13 for adalimumab. Researchers also predicted ABBV-3373 to be more effective than adalimumab based on in-trial and historical adalimumab data.
“We have great expectations for this molecule,” said Giovanni Adami, MD, PhD, a rheumatologist at the University of Verona, Verona, Italy, who has coauthored several studies on the use of GCs. Plans are underway for a phase 3 study with ABBV-3373.
C5a and Interleukin (IL)-6 Receptor Inhibitors as GC-Sparing Drugs
Investigators in a 2021 paper explored whether the C5a receptor inhibitor avacopan could effectively treat patients with antineutrophil cytoplasmic antibody (ANCA)-associated vasculitis without the need for daily GCs, following treatment with either cyclophosphamide or rituximab. They randomized 331 patients to receive avacopan or prednisone given on a tapering schedule for 20 weeks (60 mg/d tapered to discontinuation by week 21). “Avacopan was noninferior but not superior to prednisone taper with respect to remission at week 26 and was superior to prednisone taper with respect to sustained remission at week 52,” the investigators summarized.
A longer trial should test avacopan’s safety and durability in patients with ANCA-associated vasculitis, they recommended.
Sarilumab, a human monoclonal antibody that binds IL-6 receptor alpha and blocks the IL-6 pathway, yielded good results in the phase 3 SAPHYR trial as an alternative for patients with PMR who relapse while tapering prednisone therapy.
Researchers in the SAPHYR trial randomly assigned 118 patients 1:1 to receive a twice-monthly subcutaneous injection of sarilumab over 52 weeks plus a 14-week prednisone taper or placebo plus a 52-week prednisone taper. Patients in each group received a tapered GC dose initially at 15 mg/d for 2 weeks in a blinded fashion to control for disease at baseline.
Sarilumab effectively sustained remission in patients, significantly reducing the GC dose compared with placebo.
Disease flare after clinical remission took place in 57% of patients in the placebo group, vs 24% in the sarilumab group. “The placebo-treated patients had a fairly traditional 52-week GC taper. The patients treated with sarilumab had a very rapid GC taper,” said lead study author Robert Spiera, MD, director of the Scleroderma, Vasculitis and Myositis Center at the Hospital for Special Surgery, New York City.
In his own practice, Dr. Spiera often treats his patients with new-onset PMR with a fairly rapid GC taper, akin to what was used in SAPHYR, recognizing that a portion of these patients can be successfully treated with a relatively brief course of GCs, although the majority will need to have “rescue” therapy for flares with that approach.
In SAPHYR, everyone had previously flared and started at 15 mg/d prednisone at study entry. “In my practice, I don’t always raise the prednisone to 15 mg for a PMR flare. I raise it to whatever dose is necessary to capture control of polymyalgia rheumatica symptoms as I add sarilumab. Often, that is less than 15 mg,” he clarified.
Patients with giant cell arteritis (GCA) also struggle to taper or stop using GCs. For these patients, the IL-6 receptor alpha inhibitor tocilizumab has demonstrated benefits in shortening the GC-tapering period.
In the GiACTA trial, researchers randomly assigned 251 patients in a 2:1:1:1 ratio with GCA to receive subcutaneous tocilizumab weekly or every other week, combined with a 26-week prednisone taper, or placebo combined with a prednisone taper over a period of either 26 weeks or 52 weeks. Patients in the tocilizumab arms combined with a 26-week prednisone taper had superior results with GC-free remission compared with those who underwent prednisone tapering plus placebo.
Subsequent studies have investigated the use of tocilizumab in shortening GC tapers. One pilot clinical trial assessed the use of tocilizumab monotherapy following ultrashort-term GC treatment (three pulses of 500 mg of methylprednisolone) in 18 patients with new-onset GCA. Researchers found that approximately 70% of patients were able to achieve and maintain disease remission for 52 weeks. One patient developed anterior ischemic optic neuropathy.
Another pilot study of 30 patients with GCA (50% new-onset disease, 50% relapsing disease) concluded that a year of tocilizumab combined with 8 weeks of prednisone could lead to remission. The majority of patients (77% of 30) maintained prednisone-free remission at 52 weeks, and no cases of anterior ischemic optic neuropathy were observed.
“The results of the studies mentioned above are encouraging and suggest that in the setting of IL-6 blockade treatment with tocilizumab, GC tapers shorter than 6 months may be possible. However, in order to be able to recommend short prednisone tapers in GCA, clinical trials comparing the efficacy and safety of different prednisone tapers [such as 8 vs 26 weeks] are required,” said Sebastian H. Unizony, MD, the study’s lead author and an assistant professor at Harvard Medical School and codirector of the Massachusetts General Hospital Rheumatology Vasculitis Program, Boston.
“The last several years have been a breakthrough period in GCA, which started with addition of tocilizumab to the therapeutic armamentarium against this disease and continued with several other agents showing promising results in phase 2 trials [of abatacept, mavrilimumab, and secukinumab] and a recently successful phase 3 trial with upadacitinib,” Dr. Unizony said.
Dr. Katz is a corporate officer and stockholder of Sparrow Pharmaceuticals. Dr. Adami has received speaker fees and/or has consulted for Galapagos, Theramex, Amgen, Eli Lilly, UCB, Fresenius Kabi, Bristol Myers Squibb, Abiogen, and Pfizer. Dr. Spiera has been a consultant for Roche-Genentech, GlaxoSmithKline, Sanofi, ChemoCentryx, Novartis, Galderma, Cytori, AstraZeneca, Amgen, and AbbVie, and has received research grant support from GlaxoSmithKline, Roche-Genentech, AstraZeneca, Bristol Myers Squibb, Kadmon, Boehringer Ingelheim, Cytori, ChemoCentryx, Corbus, Novartis, Amgen, and AbbVie.
A version of this article appeared on Medscape.com.
. Selective GC receptor agonists and modulators and GC plus hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase inhibitor combination therapy are some of the approaches under consideration.
“There is growing observational data that confirms the GC-sparing effect seen in some of these clinical trials in real-world data,” said Sebastian E. Sattui, MD, assistant professor of medicine and director of the Vasculitis Center at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center, Pittsburgh.
GC minimization is an important goal, “and the data emerging from these trials should be reassuring for rheumatology providers,” Dr. Sattui said.
HSD-1 Inhibitors Under Study
11ß-Hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase type 1 (11ß-HSD1) is a tissue-specific intracellular modulator of GC action that’s been trialed for a number of rheumatic conditions. “HSD-1 deficiency or inhibition has been consistently associated with reduced GC side effects in mouse and human,” wrote the authors of a study testing the coadministration of HSD-1 inhibitor SPI-62 (clofutriben) with prednisolone in patients with polymyalgia rheumatica (PMR) to measure its impact on efficacy and toxicity.
Lead study author David Katz, PhD, chief scientific officer at Sparrow Pharmaceuticals, presented results at the at the annual European Congress of Rheumatology.
GCs are often the first-line therapy with PMR. However, it’s very difficult for patients to stop taking GCs once they start taking them. The study included patients with PMR who were taking 10 mg/d prednisolone and didn’t require a dose increase. For the study, they continued prednisolone without dose reduction for 4 weeks, receiving either SPI-62 6 mg/d or a matching placebo for 2 weeks.
During SPI-62 treatment, researchers in sequential cohorts maintained daily prednisolone doses at 10 mg, adjusted to 15 mg or adjusted to 20 mg.
A 10-mg dose of prednisolone combined with 6 mg of SPI-62 demonstrated less efficacy compared with placebo but improved upon prednisolone toxicities such as bone formation and resorption biomarkers, lipidemia, and insulin resistance. Doubling the dose to 20 mg prednisolone combined with SPI-62 achieved similar efficacy and maintained improvement of prednisolone toxicity markers.
“In patients with PMR, when we double the dose of prednisolone during coadministration with a potent HSD-1 inhibitor, we are able to have similar stability of symptoms, physical function, and systemic inflammation. At the same time, we are able to show improvements on biomarkers of bone turnover and insulin resistance,” Dr. Katz informed the EULAR 2024 audience.
An ongoing phase 2 clinical trial is testing SPI-62 in patients with endogenous Cushing syndrome. “It’s a longer-term trial, so we’re able to see at least an individual patient’s more clinical outcomes such as reversal of Cushing’s-associated myopathy and the ability of patients to discontinue all of their antidiabetic medications and yet still have good glycemic control,” he said.
Another research team from the United Kingdom explored whether AZD4017, an inhibitor of human 11ß-HSD1, could mitigate GC effects. The researchers randomly assigned 32 healthy male volunteers to AZD4017 or placebo, along with prednisolone. They reported a worsening of hepatic insulin sensitivity in the placebo group but not in the AZD4017 group, and protective effects of AZD4017 on markers of lipid metabolism and bone turnover, as well as lowered nighttime blood pressure. The results signified that coadministration of AZD4017 with prednisolone in men could be a way to reduce GC side effects.
In a Japanese phase 1/2 study, 11ß-HSD1 inhibitor S-707106 proved useful as an insulin sensitizer and antisarcopenic and anti-obesity medication in 16 patients with Cushing syndrome and autonomous cortisol secretion.
Novel Antitumor Necrosis Factor (TNF) Antibody Plus GC Receptor Modulator Conjugate
A novel antibody-drug conjugate comprising the anti-TNF monoclonal antibody adalimumab (ABBV-3373) linked to a GC receptor modulator shows promise as a GC alternative.
A notable 2022 study authored by Frank Buttgereit, MD, and other researchers assessed its safety and efficacy in a randomized, double-blind, active-controlled, proof-of-concept trial.
ABBV-3373 “was designed to potentially allow precise targeting of activated immune cells while significantly dampening inflammation and minimizing the systemic side effects associated with glucocorticoids,” according to AbbVie, its manufacturer.
A total of 48 adults with moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis receiving background methotrexate were randomized to receive either ABBV-3373 (n = 31) or adalimumab (n = 17). The novel drug at 12 weeks showed a −2.65 reduction in the Disease Activity Score in 28 joints using C-reactive protein, compared with −2.13 for adalimumab. Researchers also predicted ABBV-3373 to be more effective than adalimumab based on in-trial and historical adalimumab data.
“We have great expectations for this molecule,” said Giovanni Adami, MD, PhD, a rheumatologist at the University of Verona, Verona, Italy, who has coauthored several studies on the use of GCs. Plans are underway for a phase 3 study with ABBV-3373.
C5a and Interleukin (IL)-6 Receptor Inhibitors as GC-Sparing Drugs
Investigators in a 2021 paper explored whether the C5a receptor inhibitor avacopan could effectively treat patients with antineutrophil cytoplasmic antibody (ANCA)-associated vasculitis without the need for daily GCs, following treatment with either cyclophosphamide or rituximab. They randomized 331 patients to receive avacopan or prednisone given on a tapering schedule for 20 weeks (60 mg/d tapered to discontinuation by week 21). “Avacopan was noninferior but not superior to prednisone taper with respect to remission at week 26 and was superior to prednisone taper with respect to sustained remission at week 52,” the investigators summarized.
A longer trial should test avacopan’s safety and durability in patients with ANCA-associated vasculitis, they recommended.
Sarilumab, a human monoclonal antibody that binds IL-6 receptor alpha and blocks the IL-6 pathway, yielded good results in the phase 3 SAPHYR trial as an alternative for patients with PMR who relapse while tapering prednisone therapy.
Researchers in the SAPHYR trial randomly assigned 118 patients 1:1 to receive a twice-monthly subcutaneous injection of sarilumab over 52 weeks plus a 14-week prednisone taper or placebo plus a 52-week prednisone taper. Patients in each group received a tapered GC dose initially at 15 mg/d for 2 weeks in a blinded fashion to control for disease at baseline.
Sarilumab effectively sustained remission in patients, significantly reducing the GC dose compared with placebo.
Disease flare after clinical remission took place in 57% of patients in the placebo group, vs 24% in the sarilumab group. “The placebo-treated patients had a fairly traditional 52-week GC taper. The patients treated with sarilumab had a very rapid GC taper,” said lead study author Robert Spiera, MD, director of the Scleroderma, Vasculitis and Myositis Center at the Hospital for Special Surgery, New York City.
In his own practice, Dr. Spiera often treats his patients with new-onset PMR with a fairly rapid GC taper, akin to what was used in SAPHYR, recognizing that a portion of these patients can be successfully treated with a relatively brief course of GCs, although the majority will need to have “rescue” therapy for flares with that approach.
In SAPHYR, everyone had previously flared and started at 15 mg/d prednisone at study entry. “In my practice, I don’t always raise the prednisone to 15 mg for a PMR flare. I raise it to whatever dose is necessary to capture control of polymyalgia rheumatica symptoms as I add sarilumab. Often, that is less than 15 mg,” he clarified.
Patients with giant cell arteritis (GCA) also struggle to taper or stop using GCs. For these patients, the IL-6 receptor alpha inhibitor tocilizumab has demonstrated benefits in shortening the GC-tapering period.
In the GiACTA trial, researchers randomly assigned 251 patients in a 2:1:1:1 ratio with GCA to receive subcutaneous tocilizumab weekly or every other week, combined with a 26-week prednisone taper, or placebo combined with a prednisone taper over a period of either 26 weeks or 52 weeks. Patients in the tocilizumab arms combined with a 26-week prednisone taper had superior results with GC-free remission compared with those who underwent prednisone tapering plus placebo.
Subsequent studies have investigated the use of tocilizumab in shortening GC tapers. One pilot clinical trial assessed the use of tocilizumab monotherapy following ultrashort-term GC treatment (three pulses of 500 mg of methylprednisolone) in 18 patients with new-onset GCA. Researchers found that approximately 70% of patients were able to achieve and maintain disease remission for 52 weeks. One patient developed anterior ischemic optic neuropathy.
Another pilot study of 30 patients with GCA (50% new-onset disease, 50% relapsing disease) concluded that a year of tocilizumab combined with 8 weeks of prednisone could lead to remission. The majority of patients (77% of 30) maintained prednisone-free remission at 52 weeks, and no cases of anterior ischemic optic neuropathy were observed.
“The results of the studies mentioned above are encouraging and suggest that in the setting of IL-6 blockade treatment with tocilizumab, GC tapers shorter than 6 months may be possible. However, in order to be able to recommend short prednisone tapers in GCA, clinical trials comparing the efficacy and safety of different prednisone tapers [such as 8 vs 26 weeks] are required,” said Sebastian H. Unizony, MD, the study’s lead author and an assistant professor at Harvard Medical School and codirector of the Massachusetts General Hospital Rheumatology Vasculitis Program, Boston.
“The last several years have been a breakthrough period in GCA, which started with addition of tocilizumab to the therapeutic armamentarium against this disease and continued with several other agents showing promising results in phase 2 trials [of abatacept, mavrilimumab, and secukinumab] and a recently successful phase 3 trial with upadacitinib,” Dr. Unizony said.
Dr. Katz is a corporate officer and stockholder of Sparrow Pharmaceuticals. Dr. Adami has received speaker fees and/or has consulted for Galapagos, Theramex, Amgen, Eli Lilly, UCB, Fresenius Kabi, Bristol Myers Squibb, Abiogen, and Pfizer. Dr. Spiera has been a consultant for Roche-Genentech, GlaxoSmithKline, Sanofi, ChemoCentryx, Novartis, Galderma, Cytori, AstraZeneca, Amgen, and AbbVie, and has received research grant support from GlaxoSmithKline, Roche-Genentech, AstraZeneca, Bristol Myers Squibb, Kadmon, Boehringer Ingelheim, Cytori, ChemoCentryx, Corbus, Novartis, Amgen, and AbbVie.
A version of this article appeared on Medscape.com.
For One Colorado GI, Private Practice Is Anything But Routine
Lisa Mathew, MD, wants to quell any misconceptions that private practice is dull or routine. “That has not been my experience at all,” says Dr. Mathew, a partner with South Denver Gastroenterology in the suburbs of Denver, Colorado.
Nationwide, a flourishing GI private practice community engages in ongoing dialogue about improvements, navigating a changing healthcare environment, and innovation. “That has been a surprising and wonderful twist in my career,” she added.
Dr. Mathew fosters that dialogue through Gastro Broadcast, a podcast she shares with several other GI physicians. Targeted toward private GI practice, it highlights innovations within the community, providing updates on practice management and other technological advances.
In an interview, she spoke frankly about her favorite recent podcast guest, the challenges she’s faced in her career, and why her fellow GI specialists are her “tribe.”
Q: Why did you choose GI?
Dr. Mathew: In medical school at Duke University, I was considering going into ob.gyn., but academically I was a little more drawn toward internal medicine. While I was in my residency at the University of Pennsylvania, I really clicked with the gastroenterologists. I enjoyed their sense of humor. They were dealing with complex medical issues but doing so with a sense of levity and enjoyment in their work. When I entered fellowship at the University of Washington, I felt like I found my tribe. This was a group of people who really love their work, love medicine, love being able to develop their procedural skills, and keep a sense of humor about themselves. I married a cardiologist (and he’s a hilarious cardiologist), but the world of cardiology is a little more buttoned up. I like that GI is a little more relaxed.
Q: What gives you the most joy in your day-to-day practice?
Dr. Mathew: My patients. They are funny and genuine, and they allow you into these moments of vulnerability — it’s an honor to walk through that together. I’m always so grateful for the trust they put in me in those moments. As my practice has matured, it’s been incredible to watch those relationships grow, as well as begin caring for husbands, wives, sons and daughters of my patients. I enjoy being a part of my community.
Q: Can you talk about an interesting recent guest you had on your podcast? Who was it and why did he or she stand out?
Dr. Mathew: Russ Arjal, MD, AGAF, cofounder, chief medical officer and president of Telebelly Health. He’s been working on a platform for exclusively telehealth services that improves access to care; pairing patients with brick-and-mortar gastroenterology to provide any necessary procedural care, such as colonoscopy and upper endoscopy. It was a fantastic interview. I think it’s so refreshing and inspiring to see how people innovate within the field of GI. On the procedural side, you see this all the time. With my advanced endoscopy colleagues, they’re constantly pushing the boundaries of what we can do procedurally. My academic colleagues are constantly thinking through what the next best treatment is or how best can we optimize care. And, in the world of private practice, we’re thinking about practice care delivery — how to improve access and make the experience of being a patient better, with the ultimate goal of improving health outcomes.
Q: What fears did you have to push past to get to where you are in your career?
Dr. Mathew: Imposter Syndrome is a very, very common issue, maybe somewhat more for women in GI. I think it’s something that everybody wrestles with to some degree. For me, it was developing confidence not just in my clinical skills, but in learning all the complexities of running a small business. It takes time to develop confidence in your abilities and judgment. I think to some degree, that’s normal. It just takes a while to settle into whatever your chosen career path is. Having a community and strong mentors to support me has made all the difference.
Q: Describe your biggest practice-related challenge and what you are doing to address it.
Dr. Mathew: One of the greatest challenges in my career has been navigating COVID — both with just the tremendous sea change it had on our ability to practice, as well as the financial consequences to someone in private practice. Those were very challenging times to deliver the care that was needed, protect staff, and to maintain a small business. Fortunately, as with many practices across the nation, we’ve emerged through that.
We pivoted, we innovated with telehealth and other services that allowed us to care for our patients. But there were a lot of lessons learned and a lot of difficult moments.
Q: What teacher or mentor had the greatest impact on you?
Dr. Mathew: My dad has taught me the value of hard work. Being a physician just comes in tandem with hard work. And my mom, who is a nurse, has always shown the importance of empathy. Without it, everything else is a little empty. Medicine is a combination of skill and hard work, but also an ability to connect with other people. Empathy is essential to that.
Q: Describe how you would spend a free Saturday afternoon.
Dr. Mathew: We have three children who are native Coloradans so skiing is their birthright. Our entire family are diehard skiers. This is our joy. When you talk about the beach versus mountains debate, we are firmly team mountains. On a perfect Saturday afternoon, I’m on the slopes with my little crew, just tearing it up, having a great time.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Texting
Favorite city in U.S. besides the one you live in?
Washington, D.C.
Favorite breakfast?
Avocado toast
Place you most want to travel to?
South America
Favorite junk food?
Candy
Favorite season?
Winter
How many cups of coffee do you drink per day?
2 or 3
If you weren’t a gastroenterologist, what would you be?
Ski coach
Best Halloween costume you ever wore?
Bunch of grapes
Favorite type of music?
Indie folk
Favorite movie genre?
Books, not into movies
Cat person or dog person?
Neither, but I am a certified beekeeper
What song do you have to sing along with when you hear it?
Anything by Queen
Introvert or extrovert?
Extrovert with introverted tendencies
Favorite holiday?
Thanksgiving
Optimist or pessimist?
100% glass half full
Lisa Mathew, MD, wants to quell any misconceptions that private practice is dull or routine. “That has not been my experience at all,” says Dr. Mathew, a partner with South Denver Gastroenterology in the suburbs of Denver, Colorado.
Nationwide, a flourishing GI private practice community engages in ongoing dialogue about improvements, navigating a changing healthcare environment, and innovation. “That has been a surprising and wonderful twist in my career,” she added.
Dr. Mathew fosters that dialogue through Gastro Broadcast, a podcast she shares with several other GI physicians. Targeted toward private GI practice, it highlights innovations within the community, providing updates on practice management and other technological advances.
In an interview, she spoke frankly about her favorite recent podcast guest, the challenges she’s faced in her career, and why her fellow GI specialists are her “tribe.”
Q: Why did you choose GI?
Dr. Mathew: In medical school at Duke University, I was considering going into ob.gyn., but academically I was a little more drawn toward internal medicine. While I was in my residency at the University of Pennsylvania, I really clicked with the gastroenterologists. I enjoyed their sense of humor. They were dealing with complex medical issues but doing so with a sense of levity and enjoyment in their work. When I entered fellowship at the University of Washington, I felt like I found my tribe. This was a group of people who really love their work, love medicine, love being able to develop their procedural skills, and keep a sense of humor about themselves. I married a cardiologist (and he’s a hilarious cardiologist), but the world of cardiology is a little more buttoned up. I like that GI is a little more relaxed.
Q: What gives you the most joy in your day-to-day practice?
Dr. Mathew: My patients. They are funny and genuine, and they allow you into these moments of vulnerability — it’s an honor to walk through that together. I’m always so grateful for the trust they put in me in those moments. As my practice has matured, it’s been incredible to watch those relationships grow, as well as begin caring for husbands, wives, sons and daughters of my patients. I enjoy being a part of my community.
Q: Can you talk about an interesting recent guest you had on your podcast? Who was it and why did he or she stand out?
Dr. Mathew: Russ Arjal, MD, AGAF, cofounder, chief medical officer and president of Telebelly Health. He’s been working on a platform for exclusively telehealth services that improves access to care; pairing patients with brick-and-mortar gastroenterology to provide any necessary procedural care, such as colonoscopy and upper endoscopy. It was a fantastic interview. I think it’s so refreshing and inspiring to see how people innovate within the field of GI. On the procedural side, you see this all the time. With my advanced endoscopy colleagues, they’re constantly pushing the boundaries of what we can do procedurally. My academic colleagues are constantly thinking through what the next best treatment is or how best can we optimize care. And, in the world of private practice, we’re thinking about practice care delivery — how to improve access and make the experience of being a patient better, with the ultimate goal of improving health outcomes.
Q: What fears did you have to push past to get to where you are in your career?
Dr. Mathew: Imposter Syndrome is a very, very common issue, maybe somewhat more for women in GI. I think it’s something that everybody wrestles with to some degree. For me, it was developing confidence not just in my clinical skills, but in learning all the complexities of running a small business. It takes time to develop confidence in your abilities and judgment. I think to some degree, that’s normal. It just takes a while to settle into whatever your chosen career path is. Having a community and strong mentors to support me has made all the difference.
Q: Describe your biggest practice-related challenge and what you are doing to address it.
Dr. Mathew: One of the greatest challenges in my career has been navigating COVID — both with just the tremendous sea change it had on our ability to practice, as well as the financial consequences to someone in private practice. Those were very challenging times to deliver the care that was needed, protect staff, and to maintain a small business. Fortunately, as with many practices across the nation, we’ve emerged through that.
We pivoted, we innovated with telehealth and other services that allowed us to care for our patients. But there were a lot of lessons learned and a lot of difficult moments.
Q: What teacher or mentor had the greatest impact on you?
Dr. Mathew: My dad has taught me the value of hard work. Being a physician just comes in tandem with hard work. And my mom, who is a nurse, has always shown the importance of empathy. Without it, everything else is a little empty. Medicine is a combination of skill and hard work, but also an ability to connect with other people. Empathy is essential to that.
Q: Describe how you would spend a free Saturday afternoon.
Dr. Mathew: We have three children who are native Coloradans so skiing is their birthright. Our entire family are diehard skiers. This is our joy. When you talk about the beach versus mountains debate, we are firmly team mountains. On a perfect Saturday afternoon, I’m on the slopes with my little crew, just tearing it up, having a great time.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Texting
Favorite city in U.S. besides the one you live in?
Washington, D.C.
Favorite breakfast?
Avocado toast
Place you most want to travel to?
South America
Favorite junk food?
Candy
Favorite season?
Winter
How many cups of coffee do you drink per day?
2 or 3
If you weren’t a gastroenterologist, what would you be?
Ski coach
Best Halloween costume you ever wore?
Bunch of grapes
Favorite type of music?
Indie folk
Favorite movie genre?
Books, not into movies
Cat person or dog person?
Neither, but I am a certified beekeeper
What song do you have to sing along with when you hear it?
Anything by Queen
Introvert or extrovert?
Extrovert with introverted tendencies
Favorite holiday?
Thanksgiving
Optimist or pessimist?
100% glass half full
Lisa Mathew, MD, wants to quell any misconceptions that private practice is dull or routine. “That has not been my experience at all,” says Dr. Mathew, a partner with South Denver Gastroenterology in the suburbs of Denver, Colorado.
Nationwide, a flourishing GI private practice community engages in ongoing dialogue about improvements, navigating a changing healthcare environment, and innovation. “That has been a surprising and wonderful twist in my career,” she added.
Dr. Mathew fosters that dialogue through Gastro Broadcast, a podcast she shares with several other GI physicians. Targeted toward private GI practice, it highlights innovations within the community, providing updates on practice management and other technological advances.
In an interview, she spoke frankly about her favorite recent podcast guest, the challenges she’s faced in her career, and why her fellow GI specialists are her “tribe.”
Q: Why did you choose GI?
Dr. Mathew: In medical school at Duke University, I was considering going into ob.gyn., but academically I was a little more drawn toward internal medicine. While I was in my residency at the University of Pennsylvania, I really clicked with the gastroenterologists. I enjoyed their sense of humor. They were dealing with complex medical issues but doing so with a sense of levity and enjoyment in their work. When I entered fellowship at the University of Washington, I felt like I found my tribe. This was a group of people who really love their work, love medicine, love being able to develop their procedural skills, and keep a sense of humor about themselves. I married a cardiologist (and he’s a hilarious cardiologist), but the world of cardiology is a little more buttoned up. I like that GI is a little more relaxed.
Q: What gives you the most joy in your day-to-day practice?
Dr. Mathew: My patients. They are funny and genuine, and they allow you into these moments of vulnerability — it’s an honor to walk through that together. I’m always so grateful for the trust they put in me in those moments. As my practice has matured, it’s been incredible to watch those relationships grow, as well as begin caring for husbands, wives, sons and daughters of my patients. I enjoy being a part of my community.
Q: Can you talk about an interesting recent guest you had on your podcast? Who was it and why did he or she stand out?
Dr. Mathew: Russ Arjal, MD, AGAF, cofounder, chief medical officer and president of Telebelly Health. He’s been working on a platform for exclusively telehealth services that improves access to care; pairing patients with brick-and-mortar gastroenterology to provide any necessary procedural care, such as colonoscopy and upper endoscopy. It was a fantastic interview. I think it’s so refreshing and inspiring to see how people innovate within the field of GI. On the procedural side, you see this all the time. With my advanced endoscopy colleagues, they’re constantly pushing the boundaries of what we can do procedurally. My academic colleagues are constantly thinking through what the next best treatment is or how best can we optimize care. And, in the world of private practice, we’re thinking about practice care delivery — how to improve access and make the experience of being a patient better, with the ultimate goal of improving health outcomes.
Q: What fears did you have to push past to get to where you are in your career?
Dr. Mathew: Imposter Syndrome is a very, very common issue, maybe somewhat more for women in GI. I think it’s something that everybody wrestles with to some degree. For me, it was developing confidence not just in my clinical skills, but in learning all the complexities of running a small business. It takes time to develop confidence in your abilities and judgment. I think to some degree, that’s normal. It just takes a while to settle into whatever your chosen career path is. Having a community and strong mentors to support me has made all the difference.
Q: Describe your biggest practice-related challenge and what you are doing to address it.
Dr. Mathew: One of the greatest challenges in my career has been navigating COVID — both with just the tremendous sea change it had on our ability to practice, as well as the financial consequences to someone in private practice. Those were very challenging times to deliver the care that was needed, protect staff, and to maintain a small business. Fortunately, as with many practices across the nation, we’ve emerged through that.
We pivoted, we innovated with telehealth and other services that allowed us to care for our patients. But there were a lot of lessons learned and a lot of difficult moments.
Q: What teacher or mentor had the greatest impact on you?
Dr. Mathew: My dad has taught me the value of hard work. Being a physician just comes in tandem with hard work. And my mom, who is a nurse, has always shown the importance of empathy. Without it, everything else is a little empty. Medicine is a combination of skill and hard work, but also an ability to connect with other people. Empathy is essential to that.
Q: Describe how you would spend a free Saturday afternoon.
Dr. Mathew: We have three children who are native Coloradans so skiing is their birthright. Our entire family are diehard skiers. This is our joy. When you talk about the beach versus mountains debate, we are firmly team mountains. On a perfect Saturday afternoon, I’m on the slopes with my little crew, just tearing it up, having a great time.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Texting
Favorite city in U.S. besides the one you live in?
Washington, D.C.
Favorite breakfast?
Avocado toast
Place you most want to travel to?
South America
Favorite junk food?
Candy
Favorite season?
Winter
How many cups of coffee do you drink per day?
2 or 3
If you weren’t a gastroenterologist, what would you be?
Ski coach
Best Halloween costume you ever wore?
Bunch of grapes
Favorite type of music?
Indie folk
Favorite movie genre?
Books, not into movies
Cat person or dog person?
Neither, but I am a certified beekeeper
What song do you have to sing along with when you hear it?
Anything by Queen
Introvert or extrovert?
Extrovert with introverted tendencies
Favorite holiday?
Thanksgiving
Optimist or pessimist?
100% glass half full
Want a healthy diet? Eat real food, GI physician advises
What exactly is a healthy diet?
Scott Ketover, MD, AGAF, FASGE, will be the first to admit that’s not an easy question to answer. “As much research and information as we have, we don’t really know what a healthy diet is,” said Dr. Ketover, president and CEO of MNGI Digestive Health in Minneapolis, Minnesota. He was recognized by AGA this year with the Distinguished Clinician Award in Private Practice.
When patients ask questions about a healthy diet, Dr. Ketover responds with a dose of common sense: “If it’s food that didn’t exist in the year 1900, don’t eat it.” Your grandmother’s apple pie is fine in moderation, he said, but the apple pie you get at the McDonald’s drive-through could sit on your shelf for 6 months and look the same.
That is not something you should eat, he emphasizes.
“I really do believe though, that what crosses our lips and gets into our GI tract really underlies our entire health. It’s just that we don’t have enough information yet to know how we can coach people in telling them: eat this, not that,” he added.
In an interview, Dr. Ketover spoke more about the link between the gut microbiome and health, and the young patient who inspired him to become a GI physician.
Q: Why did you choose GI?
Dr. Ketover: I was a medical student working on my pediatrics rotation at Children’s Minnesota (Minneapolis Pediatrics Hospital). A 17-year-old young man who had Crohn’s disease really turned this into my lifelong passion. The patient confided in me that when he was 11, he had an ileostomy. He wore an ileostomy bag for 6 years and kept it hidden from all his friends. He was petrified of their knowing. And he told me at the age of 17 that if he knew how hard it was going to be to keep that secret, he would’ve preferred to have died rather than have the ileostomy. That got me thinking a lot about Crohn’s disease, and certainly how it affects patients. It became a very motivating thing for me to be involved in something that could potentially prevent this situation for others.
Today, we have much better treatment for Crohn’s than we did 30 years ago. So that’s all a good thing.
Q: Wellness and therapeutic diets are a specific interest of yours. Can you talk about this?
Dr. Ketover: We talk about things like Cheetos, Twinkies — those are not real foods. I do direct patients to ‘think’ when they go to the grocery store. All the good stuff is in the perimeter of the store. When you walk down the aisles, it’s all the processed food with added chemicals. It’s hard to point at specific things though and say: this is bad for you, but we do know that we should eat real food as often as we can. And I think that will contribute to our knowledge and learning about the intestinal microbiome. Again, we’re really at the beginning of our infancy of this, even though there’s lots of probiotics and things out there that claim to make you healthier. We don’t really know yet. And it’s going to take more time.
Q: What role does diet play in improving the intestinal microbiome?
Dr. Ketover: When you look at people who are healthy and who have low incidence of chronic diseases or inflammatory conditions, obesity, cancer, we’re starting to study their microbiome to see how it differs from people who have those illnesses and conditions and try to understand what the different constituents are of the microbiome. And then the big question is: Okay, so once we know that, how do we take ‘the unhealthy microbiome’ and change it to the ‘healthy microbiome’?
The only method we currently have is fecal transplant for Clostridioides difficile. And that’s just not a feasible way to change the microbiome for most people.
Some studies are going on with this. There’s been laboratory studies done with lab animals that show that fecal transplant can reverse obesity.
Q: Describe your biggest practice-related challenge and what you are doing to address it.
Dr. Ketover: The biggest challenge these days for medical practices is the relationship with the payer world and prior authorization. Where we’ve seen the greatest impact of prior authorization, unfortunately, is in the Medicare Advantage programs. Payers receive money from the federal government on plans that they can better manage the patient on, rather than Medicare. That results in a tremendous amount of prior authorization.
I get particularly incensed when I see that a lot of payers are practicing medicine without a license and they’re not relying on the professionals who are actually in the exam room with patients and doing the history and physical examination to determine what is an appropriate course of diagnosis or therapy for a patient.
It comes around every January. We have patients who are stable on meds, then their insurance gets renewed and the pharmacy formulary changes. Patients stable on various therapies are either kicked off them, or we have to go through the prior authorization process again for the same patient for the umpteenth time to keep them on a stable therapy.
How do I address that? It’s in conversations with payers and policy makers. There’s a lot going on in Washington, talking about prior authorization. I’m not sure that non-practitioners fully feel the pain that it delivers to patients.
Q: What teacher or mentor had the greatest impact on you?
Dr. Ketover: Phillip M. Kibort, MD, the pediatric physician I worked with as a medical student who really turned me on to GI medicine. We worked together on several patients and I was able to develop an appreciation for the breadth and depth of GI-related abnormalities and diseases and therapies. And I really got excited by the spectrum of opportunity that I would have as a physician to help treat patients with GI illness.
Q: What would you do differently if you had a chance?
Dr. Ketover: I’d travel more both for work and for pleasure. I really enjoy my relationships that I’ve created with lots of other gastroenterologists as well as non-physicians around policy issues. I’m involved in a couple of national organizations that talk to politicians on Capitol Hill and at state houses about patient advocacy. I would have done more of that earlier in my career if I could have.
Q: What do you like to do in your free time?
Dr. Ketover: I like to run, bike, walk. I like being outside as much as possible and enjoy being active.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Texting, very efficient
Favorite city in U.S. besides the one you live in?
Waikiki, Honolulu
Favorite breakfast?
Pancakes
Place you most want to travel to?
Australia and New Zealand
Favorite junk food?
Pretzels and ice cream
Favorite season?
Summer
How many cups of coffee do you drink per day?
2-3
If you weren’t a gastroenterologist, what would you be?
Public policy writer
Who inspires you?
My wife
Best Halloween costume you ever wore?
Cowboy
Favorite type of music?
Classic rock
Favorite movie genre?
Science fiction, space exploration
Cat person or dog person?
Dog
Favorite sport?
Football — to watch
What song do you have to sing along with when you hear it?
Bohemian Rhapsody
Introvert or extrovert?
Introvert
Optimist or pessimist?
Optimist
What exactly is a healthy diet?
Scott Ketover, MD, AGAF, FASGE, will be the first to admit that’s not an easy question to answer. “As much research and information as we have, we don’t really know what a healthy diet is,” said Dr. Ketover, president and CEO of MNGI Digestive Health in Minneapolis, Minnesota. He was recognized by AGA this year with the Distinguished Clinician Award in Private Practice.
When patients ask questions about a healthy diet, Dr. Ketover responds with a dose of common sense: “If it’s food that didn’t exist in the year 1900, don’t eat it.” Your grandmother’s apple pie is fine in moderation, he said, but the apple pie you get at the McDonald’s drive-through could sit on your shelf for 6 months and look the same.
That is not something you should eat, he emphasizes.
“I really do believe though, that what crosses our lips and gets into our GI tract really underlies our entire health. It’s just that we don’t have enough information yet to know how we can coach people in telling them: eat this, not that,” he added.
In an interview, Dr. Ketover spoke more about the link between the gut microbiome and health, and the young patient who inspired him to become a GI physician.
Q: Why did you choose GI?
Dr. Ketover: I was a medical student working on my pediatrics rotation at Children’s Minnesota (Minneapolis Pediatrics Hospital). A 17-year-old young man who had Crohn’s disease really turned this into my lifelong passion. The patient confided in me that when he was 11, he had an ileostomy. He wore an ileostomy bag for 6 years and kept it hidden from all his friends. He was petrified of their knowing. And he told me at the age of 17 that if he knew how hard it was going to be to keep that secret, he would’ve preferred to have died rather than have the ileostomy. That got me thinking a lot about Crohn’s disease, and certainly how it affects patients. It became a very motivating thing for me to be involved in something that could potentially prevent this situation for others.
Today, we have much better treatment for Crohn’s than we did 30 years ago. So that’s all a good thing.
Q: Wellness and therapeutic diets are a specific interest of yours. Can you talk about this?
Dr. Ketover: We talk about things like Cheetos, Twinkies — those are not real foods. I do direct patients to ‘think’ when they go to the grocery store. All the good stuff is in the perimeter of the store. When you walk down the aisles, it’s all the processed food with added chemicals. It’s hard to point at specific things though and say: this is bad for you, but we do know that we should eat real food as often as we can. And I think that will contribute to our knowledge and learning about the intestinal microbiome. Again, we’re really at the beginning of our infancy of this, even though there’s lots of probiotics and things out there that claim to make you healthier. We don’t really know yet. And it’s going to take more time.
Q: What role does diet play in improving the intestinal microbiome?
Dr. Ketover: When you look at people who are healthy and who have low incidence of chronic diseases or inflammatory conditions, obesity, cancer, we’re starting to study their microbiome to see how it differs from people who have those illnesses and conditions and try to understand what the different constituents are of the microbiome. And then the big question is: Okay, so once we know that, how do we take ‘the unhealthy microbiome’ and change it to the ‘healthy microbiome’?
The only method we currently have is fecal transplant for Clostridioides difficile. And that’s just not a feasible way to change the microbiome for most people.
Some studies are going on with this. There’s been laboratory studies done with lab animals that show that fecal transplant can reverse obesity.
Q: Describe your biggest practice-related challenge and what you are doing to address it.
Dr. Ketover: The biggest challenge these days for medical practices is the relationship with the payer world and prior authorization. Where we’ve seen the greatest impact of prior authorization, unfortunately, is in the Medicare Advantage programs. Payers receive money from the federal government on plans that they can better manage the patient on, rather than Medicare. That results in a tremendous amount of prior authorization.
I get particularly incensed when I see that a lot of payers are practicing medicine without a license and they’re not relying on the professionals who are actually in the exam room with patients and doing the history and physical examination to determine what is an appropriate course of diagnosis or therapy for a patient.
It comes around every January. We have patients who are stable on meds, then their insurance gets renewed and the pharmacy formulary changes. Patients stable on various therapies are either kicked off them, or we have to go through the prior authorization process again for the same patient for the umpteenth time to keep them on a stable therapy.
How do I address that? It’s in conversations with payers and policy makers. There’s a lot going on in Washington, talking about prior authorization. I’m not sure that non-practitioners fully feel the pain that it delivers to patients.
Q: What teacher or mentor had the greatest impact on you?
Dr. Ketover: Phillip M. Kibort, MD, the pediatric physician I worked with as a medical student who really turned me on to GI medicine. We worked together on several patients and I was able to develop an appreciation for the breadth and depth of GI-related abnormalities and diseases and therapies. And I really got excited by the spectrum of opportunity that I would have as a physician to help treat patients with GI illness.
Q: What would you do differently if you had a chance?
Dr. Ketover: I’d travel more both for work and for pleasure. I really enjoy my relationships that I’ve created with lots of other gastroenterologists as well as non-physicians around policy issues. I’m involved in a couple of national organizations that talk to politicians on Capitol Hill and at state houses about patient advocacy. I would have done more of that earlier in my career if I could have.
Q: What do you like to do in your free time?
Dr. Ketover: I like to run, bike, walk. I like being outside as much as possible and enjoy being active.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Texting, very efficient
Favorite city in U.S. besides the one you live in?
Waikiki, Honolulu
Favorite breakfast?
Pancakes
Place you most want to travel to?
Australia and New Zealand
Favorite junk food?
Pretzels and ice cream
Favorite season?
Summer
How many cups of coffee do you drink per day?
2-3
If you weren’t a gastroenterologist, what would you be?
Public policy writer
Who inspires you?
My wife
Best Halloween costume you ever wore?
Cowboy
Favorite type of music?
Classic rock
Favorite movie genre?
Science fiction, space exploration
Cat person or dog person?
Dog
Favorite sport?
Football — to watch
What song do you have to sing along with when you hear it?
Bohemian Rhapsody
Introvert or extrovert?
Introvert
Optimist or pessimist?
Optimist
What exactly is a healthy diet?
Scott Ketover, MD, AGAF, FASGE, will be the first to admit that’s not an easy question to answer. “As much research and information as we have, we don’t really know what a healthy diet is,” said Dr. Ketover, president and CEO of MNGI Digestive Health in Minneapolis, Minnesota. He was recognized by AGA this year with the Distinguished Clinician Award in Private Practice.
When patients ask questions about a healthy diet, Dr. Ketover responds with a dose of common sense: “If it’s food that didn’t exist in the year 1900, don’t eat it.” Your grandmother’s apple pie is fine in moderation, he said, but the apple pie you get at the McDonald’s drive-through could sit on your shelf for 6 months and look the same.
That is not something you should eat, he emphasizes.
“I really do believe though, that what crosses our lips and gets into our GI tract really underlies our entire health. It’s just that we don’t have enough information yet to know how we can coach people in telling them: eat this, not that,” he added.
In an interview, Dr. Ketover spoke more about the link between the gut microbiome and health, and the young patient who inspired him to become a GI physician.
Q: Why did you choose GI?
Dr. Ketover: I was a medical student working on my pediatrics rotation at Children’s Minnesota (Minneapolis Pediatrics Hospital). A 17-year-old young man who had Crohn’s disease really turned this into my lifelong passion. The patient confided in me that when he was 11, he had an ileostomy. He wore an ileostomy bag for 6 years and kept it hidden from all his friends. He was petrified of their knowing. And he told me at the age of 17 that if he knew how hard it was going to be to keep that secret, he would’ve preferred to have died rather than have the ileostomy. That got me thinking a lot about Crohn’s disease, and certainly how it affects patients. It became a very motivating thing for me to be involved in something that could potentially prevent this situation for others.
Today, we have much better treatment for Crohn’s than we did 30 years ago. So that’s all a good thing.
Q: Wellness and therapeutic diets are a specific interest of yours. Can you talk about this?
Dr. Ketover: We talk about things like Cheetos, Twinkies — those are not real foods. I do direct patients to ‘think’ when they go to the grocery store. All the good stuff is in the perimeter of the store. When you walk down the aisles, it’s all the processed food with added chemicals. It’s hard to point at specific things though and say: this is bad for you, but we do know that we should eat real food as often as we can. And I think that will contribute to our knowledge and learning about the intestinal microbiome. Again, we’re really at the beginning of our infancy of this, even though there’s lots of probiotics and things out there that claim to make you healthier. We don’t really know yet. And it’s going to take more time.
Q: What role does diet play in improving the intestinal microbiome?
Dr. Ketover: When you look at people who are healthy and who have low incidence of chronic diseases or inflammatory conditions, obesity, cancer, we’re starting to study their microbiome to see how it differs from people who have those illnesses and conditions and try to understand what the different constituents are of the microbiome. And then the big question is: Okay, so once we know that, how do we take ‘the unhealthy microbiome’ and change it to the ‘healthy microbiome’?
The only method we currently have is fecal transplant for Clostridioides difficile. And that’s just not a feasible way to change the microbiome for most people.
Some studies are going on with this. There’s been laboratory studies done with lab animals that show that fecal transplant can reverse obesity.
Q: Describe your biggest practice-related challenge and what you are doing to address it.
Dr. Ketover: The biggest challenge these days for medical practices is the relationship with the payer world and prior authorization. Where we’ve seen the greatest impact of prior authorization, unfortunately, is in the Medicare Advantage programs. Payers receive money from the federal government on plans that they can better manage the patient on, rather than Medicare. That results in a tremendous amount of prior authorization.
I get particularly incensed when I see that a lot of payers are practicing medicine without a license and they’re not relying on the professionals who are actually in the exam room with patients and doing the history and physical examination to determine what is an appropriate course of diagnosis or therapy for a patient.
It comes around every January. We have patients who are stable on meds, then their insurance gets renewed and the pharmacy formulary changes. Patients stable on various therapies are either kicked off them, or we have to go through the prior authorization process again for the same patient for the umpteenth time to keep them on a stable therapy.
How do I address that? It’s in conversations with payers and policy makers. There’s a lot going on in Washington, talking about prior authorization. I’m not sure that non-practitioners fully feel the pain that it delivers to patients.
Q: What teacher or mentor had the greatest impact on you?
Dr. Ketover: Phillip M. Kibort, MD, the pediatric physician I worked with as a medical student who really turned me on to GI medicine. We worked together on several patients and I was able to develop an appreciation for the breadth and depth of GI-related abnormalities and diseases and therapies. And I really got excited by the spectrum of opportunity that I would have as a physician to help treat patients with GI illness.
Q: What would you do differently if you had a chance?
Dr. Ketover: I’d travel more both for work and for pleasure. I really enjoy my relationships that I’ve created with lots of other gastroenterologists as well as non-physicians around policy issues. I’m involved in a couple of national organizations that talk to politicians on Capitol Hill and at state houses about patient advocacy. I would have done more of that earlier in my career if I could have.
Q: What do you like to do in your free time?
Dr. Ketover: I like to run, bike, walk. I like being outside as much as possible and enjoy being active.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Texting, very efficient
Favorite city in U.S. besides the one you live in?
Waikiki, Honolulu
Favorite breakfast?
Pancakes
Place you most want to travel to?
Australia and New Zealand
Favorite junk food?
Pretzels and ice cream
Favorite season?
Summer
How many cups of coffee do you drink per day?
2-3
If you weren’t a gastroenterologist, what would you be?
Public policy writer
Who inspires you?
My wife
Best Halloween costume you ever wore?
Cowboy
Favorite type of music?
Classic rock
Favorite movie genre?
Science fiction, space exploration
Cat person or dog person?
Dog
Favorite sport?
Football — to watch
What song do you have to sing along with when you hear it?
Bohemian Rhapsody
Introvert or extrovert?
Introvert
Optimist or pessimist?
Optimist