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Bupivacaine following Mohs surgery reduces opioid use, study finds
An injection of a randomized trial shows.
“Single-dose, in-office bupivacaine administration immediately following reconstructions known to be high risk for pain reduces postoperative narcotic use and acute pain during the time period when our patients have the highest levels of pain,” said first author Vanessa B. Voss, MD, of the University of Missouri–Columbia, who presented the findings at the annual meeting of the American College of Mohs Surgery.
“It was well tolerated, there were no adverse effects, and we recommend the consideration of using this in Mohs micrographic surgery reconstructions that are at the highest risk for pain,” she said.
Recent research has shown that Mohs micrographic surgeons have the highest rates of opioid prescribing of all dermatologists, with about 11% of patients undergoing a Mohs procedure prescribed the drugs for postoperative use, Dr. Voss explained.
Yet, with the ongoing opioid epidemic and even short courses of postoperative opioids placing patients at risk for addiction, the pressure is on to find alternative, nonaddictive strategies for the treatment of acute postoperative pain.
Bupivacaine is commonly used intraoperatively with other types of surgeries to reduce postoperative pain, with a favorable duration of action lasting up to 7 hours, compared with just 2-3 hours with lidocaine. And while its use in Mohs surgery is typically also intraoperative, along with lidocaine, the unique postoperative treatment approach in Mohs surgery has not been well studied, Dr. Voss noted.
To investigate, Dr. Voss and colleagues conducted the prospective, multicenter randomized trial, enrolling 174 patients undergoing Mohs micrographic surgery for skin cancer.
Patients were receiving complex flap reconstructions that have been specifically designated in an American Academy of Dermatology position statement to be high risk for pain following Mohs surgeries, and hence, more likely to involve prescriptions for opioids. These include reconstruction flaps of the scalp, ear, nose or lip, a wedge repair of the ear or lip, or a Mustarde cheek rotation flap.
The mean age of the patients was about 69 years, and about 65% were male. The two groups had no significant differences in demographics, tumor types, or repairs. They were randomized to receive either local injections of bupivacaine 0.5% (with no epinephrine) or placebo with sterile saline injection immediately following the procedure, with the total amount of injection standardized and dependent upon the flap surface area, ranging from 2.5 to 5 cm3.
For postoperative pain, all patients were prescribed acetaminophen 1,000 mg alternating with ibuprofen 400 mg, and tramadol, with instructions to only use tramadol as needed for breakthrough pain.
The reported use of narcotic analgesics by participants was significantly higher among those receiving placebo versus bupivacaine in the first 24 hours following surgery (odds ratio, 2.18; P = .03), as well as in the second 24 hours (OR, 2.18; P = .08) and at 48 hours combined (OR, 2.58; P < .01).
Those in the bupivacaine group also reported lower average pain scores, on a scale of 0-10, during the first 8-hour interval (mean difference, 1.6; P < .001). Importantly, overall, reports of pain medication use and the percentage of patients reporting pain under control were similar between groups, despite lower opioid use in the bupivacaine group.
“The percentage of patients reporting their pain to be under control was similar at all time intervals in both groups, so this means the bupivacaine group had their pain well-controlled despite fewer narcotics, with significant reductions in opioid use,” Dr. Voss noted.
Bupivacaine, though generally regarded as safe, has a reputation for being the most cardiotoxic of the local anesthetic agents; however, there were no such side effects reported in the study. Dr. Voss said the likely explanation is the use of low doses.
“In our study, we had no cardiotoxic effects when using up to 5 cc of 0.5%, which equates to 25 mg per patient,” she explained. This is considered a “very low dose,” since the maximum in the Food and Drug Administration pamphlet for local infiltration is 175 mg per patient every 3 hours, “yet is sufficient for reducing pain/narcotic use.”
She added that “surgeons must be careful to avoid accidental intravascular injection, which could increase risks of systemic toxicity, but this is very rare in the reconstruction settings described.”
Overall, the study suggests a potentially beneficial and unique nonopioid approach that is currently lacking for Mohs procedures associated with a high level of pain. “These findings offer a very effective intervention to reduce postoperative opioid use in this subset of patients,” Dr. Voss told this news organization. “There is not any other intervention that I am aware of to address this, although further study into other long-acting anesthetics may demonstrate similar effects.”
Commenting on the study, Justin J. Leitenberger, MD, session moderator, said that these “data could be impactful for reducing pain as well as the need for opioid medication after dermatologic surgery, both of which would be significant for our patients and public health outcomes.”
Among the challenges in treating pain following Mohs surgeries is that “every patient has a different pain threshold and expectation after surgery,” said Dr. Leitenberger, assistant professor of medicine and dermatology and codirector of dermatologic surgery, Mohs micrographic surgery, and laser and cosmetic surgery at Oregon Health & Science University, Portland.
“Patients undergoing larger repairs in tense areas of skin can experience increased pain and require prescription pain medication,” he said. “Bupivacaine, in this study, shows promise to provide longer lasting pain control from the surgical appointment and easier bridging to nonopioid pain control.”
Regarding the potential cardiotoxicities associated with the drug, Dr. Leitenberger agreed that the risks are low, and added that many surgeons have, in fact, switched to full use of bupivacaine, as opposed to combination with lidocaine, apparently without problems. “This is a small dose locally to the area after a procedure and I agree that the risks are minuscule,” he said.
“Of note, during national lidocaine shortages over the past few years, many practices transitioned to exclusive use of bupivacaine for the entire Mohs procedure, and [anecdotally], this transition did not result in toxicities that were reported,” Dr. Leitenberger said.
Commenting further, Vishal Patel, MD, assistant professor of dermatology and hematology/oncology at George Washington University and director of cutaneous oncology at the GW Cancer Center, both in Washington, also agreed that the benefits appear important. “The benefit from using bupivacaine is encouraging on multiple levels,” he said in an interview.
“Given all that we know about opioids and their negative side effect profile as well as their limited help in cutaneous surgery pain control, the use of long-acting anesthetics is an innovative and reasonable approach to provide pain control in the immediate postoperative window when patients tend to have the most pain,” said Dr. Patel, who is also director of dermatologic surgery at George Washington University.
“After this window, acetaminophen and ibuprofen, which have been shown when used in tandem in an alternating schedule to be superior to opioids, provides an effective pain regimen,” he said. “For larger and more pain-sensitive patients, this appears to be a promising combination.”
Dr. Voss, Dr. Leitenberger, and Dr. Patel have reported no relevant financial relationships.
A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.
An injection of a randomized trial shows.
“Single-dose, in-office bupivacaine administration immediately following reconstructions known to be high risk for pain reduces postoperative narcotic use and acute pain during the time period when our patients have the highest levels of pain,” said first author Vanessa B. Voss, MD, of the University of Missouri–Columbia, who presented the findings at the annual meeting of the American College of Mohs Surgery.
“It was well tolerated, there were no adverse effects, and we recommend the consideration of using this in Mohs micrographic surgery reconstructions that are at the highest risk for pain,” she said.
Recent research has shown that Mohs micrographic surgeons have the highest rates of opioid prescribing of all dermatologists, with about 11% of patients undergoing a Mohs procedure prescribed the drugs for postoperative use, Dr. Voss explained.
Yet, with the ongoing opioid epidemic and even short courses of postoperative opioids placing patients at risk for addiction, the pressure is on to find alternative, nonaddictive strategies for the treatment of acute postoperative pain.
Bupivacaine is commonly used intraoperatively with other types of surgeries to reduce postoperative pain, with a favorable duration of action lasting up to 7 hours, compared with just 2-3 hours with lidocaine. And while its use in Mohs surgery is typically also intraoperative, along with lidocaine, the unique postoperative treatment approach in Mohs surgery has not been well studied, Dr. Voss noted.
To investigate, Dr. Voss and colleagues conducted the prospective, multicenter randomized trial, enrolling 174 patients undergoing Mohs micrographic surgery for skin cancer.
Patients were receiving complex flap reconstructions that have been specifically designated in an American Academy of Dermatology position statement to be high risk for pain following Mohs surgeries, and hence, more likely to involve prescriptions for opioids. These include reconstruction flaps of the scalp, ear, nose or lip, a wedge repair of the ear or lip, or a Mustarde cheek rotation flap.
The mean age of the patients was about 69 years, and about 65% were male. The two groups had no significant differences in demographics, tumor types, or repairs. They were randomized to receive either local injections of bupivacaine 0.5% (with no epinephrine) or placebo with sterile saline injection immediately following the procedure, with the total amount of injection standardized and dependent upon the flap surface area, ranging from 2.5 to 5 cm3.
For postoperative pain, all patients were prescribed acetaminophen 1,000 mg alternating with ibuprofen 400 mg, and tramadol, with instructions to only use tramadol as needed for breakthrough pain.
The reported use of narcotic analgesics by participants was significantly higher among those receiving placebo versus bupivacaine in the first 24 hours following surgery (odds ratio, 2.18; P = .03), as well as in the second 24 hours (OR, 2.18; P = .08) and at 48 hours combined (OR, 2.58; P < .01).
Those in the bupivacaine group also reported lower average pain scores, on a scale of 0-10, during the first 8-hour interval (mean difference, 1.6; P < .001). Importantly, overall, reports of pain medication use and the percentage of patients reporting pain under control were similar between groups, despite lower opioid use in the bupivacaine group.
“The percentage of patients reporting their pain to be under control was similar at all time intervals in both groups, so this means the bupivacaine group had their pain well-controlled despite fewer narcotics, with significant reductions in opioid use,” Dr. Voss noted.
Bupivacaine, though generally regarded as safe, has a reputation for being the most cardiotoxic of the local anesthetic agents; however, there were no such side effects reported in the study. Dr. Voss said the likely explanation is the use of low doses.
“In our study, we had no cardiotoxic effects when using up to 5 cc of 0.5%, which equates to 25 mg per patient,” she explained. This is considered a “very low dose,” since the maximum in the Food and Drug Administration pamphlet for local infiltration is 175 mg per patient every 3 hours, “yet is sufficient for reducing pain/narcotic use.”
She added that “surgeons must be careful to avoid accidental intravascular injection, which could increase risks of systemic toxicity, but this is very rare in the reconstruction settings described.”
Overall, the study suggests a potentially beneficial and unique nonopioid approach that is currently lacking for Mohs procedures associated with a high level of pain. “These findings offer a very effective intervention to reduce postoperative opioid use in this subset of patients,” Dr. Voss told this news organization. “There is not any other intervention that I am aware of to address this, although further study into other long-acting anesthetics may demonstrate similar effects.”
Commenting on the study, Justin J. Leitenberger, MD, session moderator, said that these “data could be impactful for reducing pain as well as the need for opioid medication after dermatologic surgery, both of which would be significant for our patients and public health outcomes.”
Among the challenges in treating pain following Mohs surgeries is that “every patient has a different pain threshold and expectation after surgery,” said Dr. Leitenberger, assistant professor of medicine and dermatology and codirector of dermatologic surgery, Mohs micrographic surgery, and laser and cosmetic surgery at Oregon Health & Science University, Portland.
“Patients undergoing larger repairs in tense areas of skin can experience increased pain and require prescription pain medication,” he said. “Bupivacaine, in this study, shows promise to provide longer lasting pain control from the surgical appointment and easier bridging to nonopioid pain control.”
Regarding the potential cardiotoxicities associated with the drug, Dr. Leitenberger agreed that the risks are low, and added that many surgeons have, in fact, switched to full use of bupivacaine, as opposed to combination with lidocaine, apparently without problems. “This is a small dose locally to the area after a procedure and I agree that the risks are minuscule,” he said.
“Of note, during national lidocaine shortages over the past few years, many practices transitioned to exclusive use of bupivacaine for the entire Mohs procedure, and [anecdotally], this transition did not result in toxicities that were reported,” Dr. Leitenberger said.
Commenting further, Vishal Patel, MD, assistant professor of dermatology and hematology/oncology at George Washington University and director of cutaneous oncology at the GW Cancer Center, both in Washington, also agreed that the benefits appear important. “The benefit from using bupivacaine is encouraging on multiple levels,” he said in an interview.
“Given all that we know about opioids and their negative side effect profile as well as their limited help in cutaneous surgery pain control, the use of long-acting anesthetics is an innovative and reasonable approach to provide pain control in the immediate postoperative window when patients tend to have the most pain,” said Dr. Patel, who is also director of dermatologic surgery at George Washington University.
“After this window, acetaminophen and ibuprofen, which have been shown when used in tandem in an alternating schedule to be superior to opioids, provides an effective pain regimen,” he said. “For larger and more pain-sensitive patients, this appears to be a promising combination.”
Dr. Voss, Dr. Leitenberger, and Dr. Patel have reported no relevant financial relationships.
A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.
An injection of a randomized trial shows.
“Single-dose, in-office bupivacaine administration immediately following reconstructions known to be high risk for pain reduces postoperative narcotic use and acute pain during the time period when our patients have the highest levels of pain,” said first author Vanessa B. Voss, MD, of the University of Missouri–Columbia, who presented the findings at the annual meeting of the American College of Mohs Surgery.
“It was well tolerated, there were no adverse effects, and we recommend the consideration of using this in Mohs micrographic surgery reconstructions that are at the highest risk for pain,” she said.
Recent research has shown that Mohs micrographic surgeons have the highest rates of opioid prescribing of all dermatologists, with about 11% of patients undergoing a Mohs procedure prescribed the drugs for postoperative use, Dr. Voss explained.
Yet, with the ongoing opioid epidemic and even short courses of postoperative opioids placing patients at risk for addiction, the pressure is on to find alternative, nonaddictive strategies for the treatment of acute postoperative pain.
Bupivacaine is commonly used intraoperatively with other types of surgeries to reduce postoperative pain, with a favorable duration of action lasting up to 7 hours, compared with just 2-3 hours with lidocaine. And while its use in Mohs surgery is typically also intraoperative, along with lidocaine, the unique postoperative treatment approach in Mohs surgery has not been well studied, Dr. Voss noted.
To investigate, Dr. Voss and colleagues conducted the prospective, multicenter randomized trial, enrolling 174 patients undergoing Mohs micrographic surgery for skin cancer.
Patients were receiving complex flap reconstructions that have been specifically designated in an American Academy of Dermatology position statement to be high risk for pain following Mohs surgeries, and hence, more likely to involve prescriptions for opioids. These include reconstruction flaps of the scalp, ear, nose or lip, a wedge repair of the ear or lip, or a Mustarde cheek rotation flap.
The mean age of the patients was about 69 years, and about 65% were male. The two groups had no significant differences in demographics, tumor types, or repairs. They were randomized to receive either local injections of bupivacaine 0.5% (with no epinephrine) or placebo with sterile saline injection immediately following the procedure, with the total amount of injection standardized and dependent upon the flap surface area, ranging from 2.5 to 5 cm3.
For postoperative pain, all patients were prescribed acetaminophen 1,000 mg alternating with ibuprofen 400 mg, and tramadol, with instructions to only use tramadol as needed for breakthrough pain.
The reported use of narcotic analgesics by participants was significantly higher among those receiving placebo versus bupivacaine in the first 24 hours following surgery (odds ratio, 2.18; P = .03), as well as in the second 24 hours (OR, 2.18; P = .08) and at 48 hours combined (OR, 2.58; P < .01).
Those in the bupivacaine group also reported lower average pain scores, on a scale of 0-10, during the first 8-hour interval (mean difference, 1.6; P < .001). Importantly, overall, reports of pain medication use and the percentage of patients reporting pain under control were similar between groups, despite lower opioid use in the bupivacaine group.
“The percentage of patients reporting their pain to be under control was similar at all time intervals in both groups, so this means the bupivacaine group had their pain well-controlled despite fewer narcotics, with significant reductions in opioid use,” Dr. Voss noted.
Bupivacaine, though generally regarded as safe, has a reputation for being the most cardiotoxic of the local anesthetic agents; however, there were no such side effects reported in the study. Dr. Voss said the likely explanation is the use of low doses.
“In our study, we had no cardiotoxic effects when using up to 5 cc of 0.5%, which equates to 25 mg per patient,” she explained. This is considered a “very low dose,” since the maximum in the Food and Drug Administration pamphlet for local infiltration is 175 mg per patient every 3 hours, “yet is sufficient for reducing pain/narcotic use.”
She added that “surgeons must be careful to avoid accidental intravascular injection, which could increase risks of systemic toxicity, but this is very rare in the reconstruction settings described.”
Overall, the study suggests a potentially beneficial and unique nonopioid approach that is currently lacking for Mohs procedures associated with a high level of pain. “These findings offer a very effective intervention to reduce postoperative opioid use in this subset of patients,” Dr. Voss told this news organization. “There is not any other intervention that I am aware of to address this, although further study into other long-acting anesthetics may demonstrate similar effects.”
Commenting on the study, Justin J. Leitenberger, MD, session moderator, said that these “data could be impactful for reducing pain as well as the need for opioid medication after dermatologic surgery, both of which would be significant for our patients and public health outcomes.”
Among the challenges in treating pain following Mohs surgeries is that “every patient has a different pain threshold and expectation after surgery,” said Dr. Leitenberger, assistant professor of medicine and dermatology and codirector of dermatologic surgery, Mohs micrographic surgery, and laser and cosmetic surgery at Oregon Health & Science University, Portland.
“Patients undergoing larger repairs in tense areas of skin can experience increased pain and require prescription pain medication,” he said. “Bupivacaine, in this study, shows promise to provide longer lasting pain control from the surgical appointment and easier bridging to nonopioid pain control.”
Regarding the potential cardiotoxicities associated with the drug, Dr. Leitenberger agreed that the risks are low, and added that many surgeons have, in fact, switched to full use of bupivacaine, as opposed to combination with lidocaine, apparently without problems. “This is a small dose locally to the area after a procedure and I agree that the risks are minuscule,” he said.
“Of note, during national lidocaine shortages over the past few years, many practices transitioned to exclusive use of bupivacaine for the entire Mohs procedure, and [anecdotally], this transition did not result in toxicities that were reported,” Dr. Leitenberger said.
Commenting further, Vishal Patel, MD, assistant professor of dermatology and hematology/oncology at George Washington University and director of cutaneous oncology at the GW Cancer Center, both in Washington, also agreed that the benefits appear important. “The benefit from using bupivacaine is encouraging on multiple levels,” he said in an interview.
“Given all that we know about opioids and their negative side effect profile as well as their limited help in cutaneous surgery pain control, the use of long-acting anesthetics is an innovative and reasonable approach to provide pain control in the immediate postoperative window when patients tend to have the most pain,” said Dr. Patel, who is also director of dermatologic surgery at George Washington University.
“After this window, acetaminophen and ibuprofen, which have been shown when used in tandem in an alternating schedule to be superior to opioids, provides an effective pain regimen,” he said. “For larger and more pain-sensitive patients, this appears to be a promising combination.”
Dr. Voss, Dr. Leitenberger, and Dr. Patel have reported no relevant financial relationships.
A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.
FROM ACMS 2022
Unique residency track focuses on rural placement of graduates
BOSTON – As a former active-duty cavalry officer in the U.S. Army who served a 15-month tour in Iraq in 2003, Adam C. Byrd, MD, isn’t easily rattled.
On any given day, as the only dermatologist in his hometown of Louisville, Miss., which has a population of about 6,500, he sees 35-40 patients who present with conditions ranging from an infantile hemangioma to dermatomyositis and porphyria cutanea tarda. Being the go-to specialist for hundreds of miles with no on-site lab and no immediate personal access to Mohs surgeons and other subspecialists might unnerve some dermatologists, but not him.
“They’re a text message away, but they’re not in my office,” he said during a session on rural dermatology at the annual meeting of the American Academy of Dermatology. “I don’t have a mid-level practitioner, either. It’s just me and the residents, so it can be somewhat isolating. But in a rural area, you’re doing your patients a disservice if you can’t handle broad-spectrum medical dermatology. I consider myself a family dermatologist; I do a little bit of everything.” This includes prescribing treatments ranging from methotrexate for psoriasis, psoriatic arthritis, eczema, and other conditions; cyclosporine and azathioprine for pediatric eczema; propranolol for infantile hemangiomas; to IV infusions for dermatomyositis; phlebotomy for porphyria cutanea tarda; and biologics.
With no on-site pathology lab, Dr. Byrd sends specimens twice a week to the University of Mississippi Medical Center in Jackson via FedEx to be read. “I have to wait 3 days for results instead of 2,” he said. At the end of each workday, he personally carries microbiology samples to Winston Medical Center in Louisville – the area’s only hospital and where he was born – for processing.
After completing a 5-year integrated internal medicine-dermatology residency at the University of Minnesota in 2016, Dr. Byrd worked with Robert T. Brodell, MD, who chairs the department of dermatology at UMMC, and other university officials to open a satellite clinic in Louisville, where he provides full-spectrum skin care for Northern Mississippians. The clinic, located about 95 miles from UMMC’s “mothership” in Jackson, has become a vital training ground for the university, which created the only rural-specific dermatology residency of the 142 accredited dermatology programs in the United States. Of the three to four residents accepted per year, one is a rural track resident who spends 3-month–long rotations at rural clinic sites such as Dr. Byrd’s during each of the 3 years of general dermatology training, and the remaining 9 months of each year alongside their non–rural track coresidents.
One of the program’s rural track residents, Joshua R. Ortego, MD, worked in Dr. Byrd’s clinic during PGY-2. “It’s unique for one attending and one resident to work together for 3 months straight,” said Dr. Ortego, who grew up in Bay St. Louis on the Gulf Coast of Mississippi, which has a population of about 9,200. “Dr. Byrd learns our weaknesses and knows our strengths and areas for improvement. You get close. And there’s continuity; you see some patients back. With all the shuffling in the traditional dermatology residency model, sometimes you’re not seeing patients for follow-up appointments. But here you do.”
Rural dermatology track residents who rotate through Dr. Byrd’s Louisville clinic spend each Monday at the main campus in Jackson for a continuity clinic and didactics with non–rural track residents, “which allows for collegiality,” Dr. Ortego said. “My coresidents are like family; it would be hard to spend 3 months or even a year away from family like that.” The department foots the cost of lodging in a Louisville hotel 4 nights per week during these 3 months of training.
Dr. Ortego said that he performed a far greater number of procedures during PGY-2, compared with the averages performed in UMMC’s general dermatology rotation: 75 excisions (vs. 17), 71 repairs (vs. 15), and 23 excisions on the face or scalp (vs. none). He also cared for patients who presented with advanced disease because of access issues, and others with rare conditions. For example, in one afternoon clinic he and Dr. Byrd saw two patients with porphyria cutanea tarda, and one case each of dermatomyositis, bullous pemphigoid, and pyoderma gangrenosum. “We have an autoimmune blistering disease clinic in Jackson, but patients don’t want to drive there,” he said.
Then there are the perks that come with practicing in a rural area, including ready access to hiking, fishing, hunting, and spending time with family and friends. “Rural residents should be comfortable with the lifestyle,” he said. “Some cities don’t have the same amenities as San Francisco or Boston, but not everyone requires that. They just love where they’re from.”
The residency’s structure is designed to address the dire shortage of rural-based dermatologists in the United States. A study published in 2018 found that the difference in dermatologist density between metropolitan and rural counties in the United States increased from 3.41 per 100,000 people (3.47 vs. 0.065 per 100,000 people) in 1995 to 4.03 per 100, 000 people (4.11 vs. 0.085 per 100,000 people in 2013; P = .053). That’s about 40 times the number of dermatologists in metro areas, compared with rural areas.
Residents enrolled in UMMC’s rural dermatology track are expected to serve at least 3 years at a rural location upon graduation at a site mutually agreed upon by the resident and the UMMC. Dr. Ortego plans to practice in Bay St. Louis after completing his residency. “The idea is that you’re happy, that you’re in your hometown,” he said.
According to Dr. Byrd, the 3-year commitment brings job security to rural track residents in their preferred location while meeting the demands of an underserved population. “We are still tweaking this,” he said of the residency track, which includes plans to establish more satellite clinics in other areas of rural Mississippi. “Our department chair does not have 100% control over hiring and office expansion. We are subject to the Mississippi Institutions of Higher Learning, which is a branch of the state government. This has to be addressed at the council of chairs and university chancellor level and even state government. It can be done, but you really must be dedicated.”
Meanwhile, the effect that dermatologists like Dr. Byrd have on citizens of his area of rural Mississippi is palpable. Many refuse to travel outside of Louisville city limits to see a specialist, so when surgery for a suspicious lesion is indicated, they tell him, “You’re going to do it, or it’s not going to get done,” said Dr. Byrd, who continues to serve in the Mississippi Army National Guard as a field surgeon. “I don’t say ‘no’ a whole lot.” He refers patients to Mohs micrographic surgery colleagues in Jackson daily and is transparent with patients who hesitate to elect Mohs surgery. “I’ll say, ‘I can do the job, but there’s a higher risk of positive margins, and a Mohs surgeon could do a much better job.’”
He acknowledged that rural dermatology “isn’t for everyone. It requires a physician that has a good training foundation in medical and surgical dermatology, someone with a ‘can do’ attitude and a healthy level of confidence. I try to do the best for my patients. It’s endearing when they trust you.”
Mary Logue, MD, who practices dermatology in Minot, N.D., finds the structure of UMMC’s rural dermatology track inspiring. Upon completing her dermatology residency at the University of New Mexico, where she remains on the volunteer faculty, she had hoped to return to serve the community of Gallup, N.M., and help bridge the gap in dermatology health care access for residents of rural New Mexico, especially those on Native American reservations. That opportunity never transpired, but Dr. Logue was able to pursue her passion for rural medicine in North Dakota.
“It is my hope that more programs will implement a similar structure to UMMC’s rural dermatology track and get more dermatologists practicing in rural areas,” Dr. Logue told this news organization. “They have developed a very practical and financially sustainable model, which I think every state could benefit from.”
She added that the UMMC “has found a way to bring dermatology to disadvantaged rural communities while also addressing the problem of underrepresented minorities in medicine. Medical students of color and medical students from rural communities are the least represented groups in dermatology, but the most likely to return to their communities to practice. Every day I see patients with adverse dermatologic outcomes as a direct result of lack of access to a dermatologist. This is happening across the country, which is why the efforts of UMMC Dermatology and their department chair, Dr. Brodell, are so important.”
BOSTON – As a former active-duty cavalry officer in the U.S. Army who served a 15-month tour in Iraq in 2003, Adam C. Byrd, MD, isn’t easily rattled.
On any given day, as the only dermatologist in his hometown of Louisville, Miss., which has a population of about 6,500, he sees 35-40 patients who present with conditions ranging from an infantile hemangioma to dermatomyositis and porphyria cutanea tarda. Being the go-to specialist for hundreds of miles with no on-site lab and no immediate personal access to Mohs surgeons and other subspecialists might unnerve some dermatologists, but not him.
“They’re a text message away, but they’re not in my office,” he said during a session on rural dermatology at the annual meeting of the American Academy of Dermatology. “I don’t have a mid-level practitioner, either. It’s just me and the residents, so it can be somewhat isolating. But in a rural area, you’re doing your patients a disservice if you can’t handle broad-spectrum medical dermatology. I consider myself a family dermatologist; I do a little bit of everything.” This includes prescribing treatments ranging from methotrexate for psoriasis, psoriatic arthritis, eczema, and other conditions; cyclosporine and azathioprine for pediatric eczema; propranolol for infantile hemangiomas; to IV infusions for dermatomyositis; phlebotomy for porphyria cutanea tarda; and biologics.
With no on-site pathology lab, Dr. Byrd sends specimens twice a week to the University of Mississippi Medical Center in Jackson via FedEx to be read. “I have to wait 3 days for results instead of 2,” he said. At the end of each workday, he personally carries microbiology samples to Winston Medical Center in Louisville – the area’s only hospital and where he was born – for processing.
After completing a 5-year integrated internal medicine-dermatology residency at the University of Minnesota in 2016, Dr. Byrd worked with Robert T. Brodell, MD, who chairs the department of dermatology at UMMC, and other university officials to open a satellite clinic in Louisville, where he provides full-spectrum skin care for Northern Mississippians. The clinic, located about 95 miles from UMMC’s “mothership” in Jackson, has become a vital training ground for the university, which created the only rural-specific dermatology residency of the 142 accredited dermatology programs in the United States. Of the three to four residents accepted per year, one is a rural track resident who spends 3-month–long rotations at rural clinic sites such as Dr. Byrd’s during each of the 3 years of general dermatology training, and the remaining 9 months of each year alongside their non–rural track coresidents.
One of the program’s rural track residents, Joshua R. Ortego, MD, worked in Dr. Byrd’s clinic during PGY-2. “It’s unique for one attending and one resident to work together for 3 months straight,” said Dr. Ortego, who grew up in Bay St. Louis on the Gulf Coast of Mississippi, which has a population of about 9,200. “Dr. Byrd learns our weaknesses and knows our strengths and areas for improvement. You get close. And there’s continuity; you see some patients back. With all the shuffling in the traditional dermatology residency model, sometimes you’re not seeing patients for follow-up appointments. But here you do.”
Rural dermatology track residents who rotate through Dr. Byrd’s Louisville clinic spend each Monday at the main campus in Jackson for a continuity clinic and didactics with non–rural track residents, “which allows for collegiality,” Dr. Ortego said. “My coresidents are like family; it would be hard to spend 3 months or even a year away from family like that.” The department foots the cost of lodging in a Louisville hotel 4 nights per week during these 3 months of training.
Dr. Ortego said that he performed a far greater number of procedures during PGY-2, compared with the averages performed in UMMC’s general dermatology rotation: 75 excisions (vs. 17), 71 repairs (vs. 15), and 23 excisions on the face or scalp (vs. none). He also cared for patients who presented with advanced disease because of access issues, and others with rare conditions. For example, in one afternoon clinic he and Dr. Byrd saw two patients with porphyria cutanea tarda, and one case each of dermatomyositis, bullous pemphigoid, and pyoderma gangrenosum. “We have an autoimmune blistering disease clinic in Jackson, but patients don’t want to drive there,” he said.
Then there are the perks that come with practicing in a rural area, including ready access to hiking, fishing, hunting, and spending time with family and friends. “Rural residents should be comfortable with the lifestyle,” he said. “Some cities don’t have the same amenities as San Francisco or Boston, but not everyone requires that. They just love where they’re from.”
The residency’s structure is designed to address the dire shortage of rural-based dermatologists in the United States. A study published in 2018 found that the difference in dermatologist density between metropolitan and rural counties in the United States increased from 3.41 per 100,000 people (3.47 vs. 0.065 per 100,000 people) in 1995 to 4.03 per 100, 000 people (4.11 vs. 0.085 per 100,000 people in 2013; P = .053). That’s about 40 times the number of dermatologists in metro areas, compared with rural areas.
Residents enrolled in UMMC’s rural dermatology track are expected to serve at least 3 years at a rural location upon graduation at a site mutually agreed upon by the resident and the UMMC. Dr. Ortego plans to practice in Bay St. Louis after completing his residency. “The idea is that you’re happy, that you’re in your hometown,” he said.
According to Dr. Byrd, the 3-year commitment brings job security to rural track residents in their preferred location while meeting the demands of an underserved population. “We are still tweaking this,” he said of the residency track, which includes plans to establish more satellite clinics in other areas of rural Mississippi. “Our department chair does not have 100% control over hiring and office expansion. We are subject to the Mississippi Institutions of Higher Learning, which is a branch of the state government. This has to be addressed at the council of chairs and university chancellor level and even state government. It can be done, but you really must be dedicated.”
Meanwhile, the effect that dermatologists like Dr. Byrd have on citizens of his area of rural Mississippi is palpable. Many refuse to travel outside of Louisville city limits to see a specialist, so when surgery for a suspicious lesion is indicated, they tell him, “You’re going to do it, or it’s not going to get done,” said Dr. Byrd, who continues to serve in the Mississippi Army National Guard as a field surgeon. “I don’t say ‘no’ a whole lot.” He refers patients to Mohs micrographic surgery colleagues in Jackson daily and is transparent with patients who hesitate to elect Mohs surgery. “I’ll say, ‘I can do the job, but there’s a higher risk of positive margins, and a Mohs surgeon could do a much better job.’”
He acknowledged that rural dermatology “isn’t for everyone. It requires a physician that has a good training foundation in medical and surgical dermatology, someone with a ‘can do’ attitude and a healthy level of confidence. I try to do the best for my patients. It’s endearing when they trust you.”
Mary Logue, MD, who practices dermatology in Minot, N.D., finds the structure of UMMC’s rural dermatology track inspiring. Upon completing her dermatology residency at the University of New Mexico, where she remains on the volunteer faculty, she had hoped to return to serve the community of Gallup, N.M., and help bridge the gap in dermatology health care access for residents of rural New Mexico, especially those on Native American reservations. That opportunity never transpired, but Dr. Logue was able to pursue her passion for rural medicine in North Dakota.
“It is my hope that more programs will implement a similar structure to UMMC’s rural dermatology track and get more dermatologists practicing in rural areas,” Dr. Logue told this news organization. “They have developed a very practical and financially sustainable model, which I think every state could benefit from.”
She added that the UMMC “has found a way to bring dermatology to disadvantaged rural communities while also addressing the problem of underrepresented minorities in medicine. Medical students of color and medical students from rural communities are the least represented groups in dermatology, but the most likely to return to their communities to practice. Every day I see patients with adverse dermatologic outcomes as a direct result of lack of access to a dermatologist. This is happening across the country, which is why the efforts of UMMC Dermatology and their department chair, Dr. Brodell, are so important.”
BOSTON – As a former active-duty cavalry officer in the U.S. Army who served a 15-month tour in Iraq in 2003, Adam C. Byrd, MD, isn’t easily rattled.
On any given day, as the only dermatologist in his hometown of Louisville, Miss., which has a population of about 6,500, he sees 35-40 patients who present with conditions ranging from an infantile hemangioma to dermatomyositis and porphyria cutanea tarda. Being the go-to specialist for hundreds of miles with no on-site lab and no immediate personal access to Mohs surgeons and other subspecialists might unnerve some dermatologists, but not him.
“They’re a text message away, but they’re not in my office,” he said during a session on rural dermatology at the annual meeting of the American Academy of Dermatology. “I don’t have a mid-level practitioner, either. It’s just me and the residents, so it can be somewhat isolating. But in a rural area, you’re doing your patients a disservice if you can’t handle broad-spectrum medical dermatology. I consider myself a family dermatologist; I do a little bit of everything.” This includes prescribing treatments ranging from methotrexate for psoriasis, psoriatic arthritis, eczema, and other conditions; cyclosporine and azathioprine for pediatric eczema; propranolol for infantile hemangiomas; to IV infusions for dermatomyositis; phlebotomy for porphyria cutanea tarda; and biologics.
With no on-site pathology lab, Dr. Byrd sends specimens twice a week to the University of Mississippi Medical Center in Jackson via FedEx to be read. “I have to wait 3 days for results instead of 2,” he said. At the end of each workday, he personally carries microbiology samples to Winston Medical Center in Louisville – the area’s only hospital and where he was born – for processing.
After completing a 5-year integrated internal medicine-dermatology residency at the University of Minnesota in 2016, Dr. Byrd worked with Robert T. Brodell, MD, who chairs the department of dermatology at UMMC, and other university officials to open a satellite clinic in Louisville, where he provides full-spectrum skin care for Northern Mississippians. The clinic, located about 95 miles from UMMC’s “mothership” in Jackson, has become a vital training ground for the university, which created the only rural-specific dermatology residency of the 142 accredited dermatology programs in the United States. Of the three to four residents accepted per year, one is a rural track resident who spends 3-month–long rotations at rural clinic sites such as Dr. Byrd’s during each of the 3 years of general dermatology training, and the remaining 9 months of each year alongside their non–rural track coresidents.
One of the program’s rural track residents, Joshua R. Ortego, MD, worked in Dr. Byrd’s clinic during PGY-2. “It’s unique for one attending and one resident to work together for 3 months straight,” said Dr. Ortego, who grew up in Bay St. Louis on the Gulf Coast of Mississippi, which has a population of about 9,200. “Dr. Byrd learns our weaknesses and knows our strengths and areas for improvement. You get close. And there’s continuity; you see some patients back. With all the shuffling in the traditional dermatology residency model, sometimes you’re not seeing patients for follow-up appointments. But here you do.”
Rural dermatology track residents who rotate through Dr. Byrd’s Louisville clinic spend each Monday at the main campus in Jackson for a continuity clinic and didactics with non–rural track residents, “which allows for collegiality,” Dr. Ortego said. “My coresidents are like family; it would be hard to spend 3 months or even a year away from family like that.” The department foots the cost of lodging in a Louisville hotel 4 nights per week during these 3 months of training.
Dr. Ortego said that he performed a far greater number of procedures during PGY-2, compared with the averages performed in UMMC’s general dermatology rotation: 75 excisions (vs. 17), 71 repairs (vs. 15), and 23 excisions on the face or scalp (vs. none). He also cared for patients who presented with advanced disease because of access issues, and others with rare conditions. For example, in one afternoon clinic he and Dr. Byrd saw two patients with porphyria cutanea tarda, and one case each of dermatomyositis, bullous pemphigoid, and pyoderma gangrenosum. “We have an autoimmune blistering disease clinic in Jackson, but patients don’t want to drive there,” he said.
Then there are the perks that come with practicing in a rural area, including ready access to hiking, fishing, hunting, and spending time with family and friends. “Rural residents should be comfortable with the lifestyle,” he said. “Some cities don’t have the same amenities as San Francisco or Boston, but not everyone requires that. They just love where they’re from.”
The residency’s structure is designed to address the dire shortage of rural-based dermatologists in the United States. A study published in 2018 found that the difference in dermatologist density between metropolitan and rural counties in the United States increased from 3.41 per 100,000 people (3.47 vs. 0.065 per 100,000 people) in 1995 to 4.03 per 100, 000 people (4.11 vs. 0.085 per 100,000 people in 2013; P = .053). That’s about 40 times the number of dermatologists in metro areas, compared with rural areas.
Residents enrolled in UMMC’s rural dermatology track are expected to serve at least 3 years at a rural location upon graduation at a site mutually agreed upon by the resident and the UMMC. Dr. Ortego plans to practice in Bay St. Louis after completing his residency. “The idea is that you’re happy, that you’re in your hometown,” he said.
According to Dr. Byrd, the 3-year commitment brings job security to rural track residents in their preferred location while meeting the demands of an underserved population. “We are still tweaking this,” he said of the residency track, which includes plans to establish more satellite clinics in other areas of rural Mississippi. “Our department chair does not have 100% control over hiring and office expansion. We are subject to the Mississippi Institutions of Higher Learning, which is a branch of the state government. This has to be addressed at the council of chairs and university chancellor level and even state government. It can be done, but you really must be dedicated.”
Meanwhile, the effect that dermatologists like Dr. Byrd have on citizens of his area of rural Mississippi is palpable. Many refuse to travel outside of Louisville city limits to see a specialist, so when surgery for a suspicious lesion is indicated, they tell him, “You’re going to do it, or it’s not going to get done,” said Dr. Byrd, who continues to serve in the Mississippi Army National Guard as a field surgeon. “I don’t say ‘no’ a whole lot.” He refers patients to Mohs micrographic surgery colleagues in Jackson daily and is transparent with patients who hesitate to elect Mohs surgery. “I’ll say, ‘I can do the job, but there’s a higher risk of positive margins, and a Mohs surgeon could do a much better job.’”
He acknowledged that rural dermatology “isn’t for everyone. It requires a physician that has a good training foundation in medical and surgical dermatology, someone with a ‘can do’ attitude and a healthy level of confidence. I try to do the best for my patients. It’s endearing when they trust you.”
Mary Logue, MD, who practices dermatology in Minot, N.D., finds the structure of UMMC’s rural dermatology track inspiring. Upon completing her dermatology residency at the University of New Mexico, where she remains on the volunteer faculty, she had hoped to return to serve the community of Gallup, N.M., and help bridge the gap in dermatology health care access for residents of rural New Mexico, especially those on Native American reservations. That opportunity never transpired, but Dr. Logue was able to pursue her passion for rural medicine in North Dakota.
“It is my hope that more programs will implement a similar structure to UMMC’s rural dermatology track and get more dermatologists practicing in rural areas,” Dr. Logue told this news organization. “They have developed a very practical and financially sustainable model, which I think every state could benefit from.”
She added that the UMMC “has found a way to bring dermatology to disadvantaged rural communities while also addressing the problem of underrepresented minorities in medicine. Medical students of color and medical students from rural communities are the least represented groups in dermatology, but the most likely to return to their communities to practice. Every day I see patients with adverse dermatologic outcomes as a direct result of lack of access to a dermatologist. This is happening across the country, which is why the efforts of UMMC Dermatology and their department chair, Dr. Brodell, are so important.”
At AAD 22
Q&A with Hubert (Hugh) Greenway, MD
who was also recently selected as program director for cutaneous oncology at Scripps MD Anderson Cancer Center in San Diego. He is also a former president of the American College of Mohs Surgery.
After earning his medical degree from the Medical College of Georgia, Augusta, in 1974, Dr. Greenway was fellowship trained in Mohs skin cancer surgery by Frederic E. Mohs, MD, at the University of Wisconsin–Madison. He completed his dermatology residency at the Naval Medical Center San Diego and joined Scripps Clinic in 1983, where he launched the institution’s first Mohs surgery program, as well as a popular annual intensive course in superficial anatomy and cutaneous surgery that bears his name. He was also the first physician in the world to use interferon as a nonsurgical treatment of basal cell carcinoma.
To date, Dr. Greenway has performed more than 41,000 Mohs surgery cases and has trained 61 fellows who practice in academic and clinical settings. In 2017, he received the Frederic E. Mohs Award from the ACMS at the college’s annual meeting. He is also a past CEO of Scripps Clinic. In this Q&A, Dr. Greenway opens up about what it was like to train with Dr. Mohs, what makes a good Mohs surgeon, and why he’s excited about the future of dermatology.
I understand that you first became interested in a medical career after meeting Dr. Carl Jones, a friend of your father who was your Scoutmaster in the Boy Scouts in Georgia. What about Dr. Jones inspired you to pursue a career in medicine?
Dr. Jones was an internist/allergist in Atlanta, where I grew up. His three sons and I were friends. My dad had dealt with several medical problems being injured in World War II and subsequently undergoing a couple of kidney transplantations, so I developed an interest in medicine personally. Even though Dr. Jones was a specialist, he started out as a family doctor like I did, so he was interested in the whole person and all of his or her medical problems as opposed to those related to his specialty only. I traveled with the Boy Scouts to camp at places like Valley Forge in Pennsylvania, and Dr. Jones was involved with the medical set-ups of those large events. That also contributed to my interest in medicine.
As part of your 9-year service in the U.S. Navy, you spent 2 years as the flight surgeon at NAS Atlanta/Dobbins Air Force Base. What was your most memorable experience from that assignment?
Dobbins is a large facility with two Lockheed plants, and the Air Force had built the medical clinic, which was staffed by the Navy. Getting to know some of the active-duty members of the Air Force, the Navy, and the National Guard, and their commitment to our country, was memorable. Jimmy Carter was the president in those days. When he would fly in Dobbins, one of my jobs as the flight surgeon was to be on base when Air Force One landed or departed. One night, we had a DC-9 commercial aircraft coming from Huntsville, Ala., to Atlanta that got caught in a thunderstorm a little above 30,000 feet. Both engines went out and the aircraft essentially became a glider. The pilots tried to land on our runway but unfortunately, they ended up 4 miles short. We were heavily involved in responding to the crash, which was a tragic event. I also learned to fly (second seat) different types of aircraft during my assignment at NAS Atlanta/Dobbins Air Force Base, everything from the large C-5s to Navy fighter jets and helicopters. Coincidentally, Dr. Jones was involved with a couple of free health clinics in Atlanta when I was stationed there. Every Tuesday night, my wife (who is a nurse) and I would volunteer at a clinic in Cabbagetown, which was one of the poorer areas of Atlanta. It was a chance to give back to a group of people who didn’t have a whole lot.
In the middle your dermatology residency at Naval Medical Center San Diego, you were selected by Dr. Mohs for fellowship training in Mohs skin cancer surgery at the University of Wisconsin–Madison. What do you remember most about your training with Dr. Mohs?
Dr. Mohs was a kind, humble man who had this great idea about skin cancer. He was not a dermatologist; he was a general surgeon. The technique he developed was originally called chemosurgery because he put a chemical onto the skin. This was known as the fixed-tissue technique. Then we had a fresh-tissue technique, where we did not use the chemical, but we were able to use local anesthesia right away. That developed into the Mohs surgery we know today. Dr. Mohs did not name it that; he was very humble, but he was very proud of his technique. He was also a very hard worker. On the first day of my fellowship, I started at 7 in the morning and ended at 7 at night. It was the same for the last day of my fellowship. He also had an excellent office staff, many of whom had worked with him for many years. Patients with difficult skin cancers traveled to Madison from all over the world because there weren’t that many Mohs surgery clinics in those days. During the latter part of my fellowship, Michael McCall, MD, and I had the opportunity to remove a skin cancer from the nose of Dr. Mohs. We presented the case at a national conference, and I titled the talk “Mohs Surgery for Mohs’ Nose.”
Early in your career Dr. Mohs asked you to take over his practice, but you accepted an offer to establish the first Mohs surgery office at Scripps in San Diego instead. What convinced you to head West?
After my fellowship, I returned to San Diego to complete my residency with the Navy, where we opened a Mohs surgery clinic. Dr. Mohs came out for the ribbon cutting. During that time, I was taking care of several patients that he had treated in Wisconsin. Through that my wife and I ended up going to dinner with Cecil and Ida Green, philanthropists who made several financial gifts to Scripps Clinic – and for whom Scripps Green Hospital is named. Cecil cofounded Texas Instruments and was knighted by Queen Elizabeth. During dinner, he suggested that I stay in San Diego for a year and work at Scripps after my residency assignment with the Navy. I agreed and have been here ever since.
What do you find most interesting about Mohs surgery?
In Mohs surgery, you’re able to provide not only surgical care to eliminate the tumor, but also the pathology and the reconstruction. That was interesting to me. Dr. Mohs was not that interested in reconstruction. He was more focused on the tumor, in part because with the original fixed-tissue technique you could not do the reconstruction. You had to wait for an extra layer of tissue to separate. But with the fresh-tissue technique, you were able to provide the reconstruction that day. Mohs surgery deals with a subset of tumors that are challenging to treat. That also spiked my academic and clinical interest.
In your opinion, what’s been the most important advance in Mohs surgery to date?
In recent years, immunology has come into play, so now we have teams of clinicians in dermatology, medical oncology, surgery, and other subspecialties providing patients the best of care. In the arena of Mohs surgery itself, in the 1980s, the American College of Mohs Surgery developed a 1-year fellowship program, which enabled us to train many men and women to practice Mohs surgery. Most of them are dermatologists.
Please complete the sentence: “You can tell a good Mohs surgeon by the way he/she ...”
Treats patients, is willing to spend time with them, and shows an interest in them. One of the things we should strive for is to let patients know that they as a person are important; it’s not just the melanoma on their nose. We’re not only dealing with a skin cancer; we’re dealing with a patient who has skin cancer.
For the past 39 years, you have led Hugh Greenway’s Superficial Anatomy and Cutaneous Surgery course, which takes place every January in San Diego. What’s been key to sustaining this training course for nearly 4 decades?
There have been many people involved in its success, so it’s not just me. When I first started my practice, there really was not a focus on anatomy in the general dermatologic community. Dermatologic surgery textbooks contained very little content on surgical anatomy so I developed an interest a putting together a course that would cover some of this material. I met with Terence Davidson, MD, an otolaryngologist who was dean of continuing medical education at the University of California, San Diego. The course includes lectures from experts in many subspecialties and hands-on laboratories using cadavers to work on anatomy and surgical techniques. After about 16 years of doing the course Dr. Davidson told me: “When we started this course, as a group, the head and neck surgeons were the best to do the reconstructions on the face with skin flaps and grafts and layered closures. But now, as a group, the dermatologists are best at doing that.” That’s what we want to hear in medical education.
During the peak of the COVID-19 pandemic, what were your most significant challenges from both a clinical and a personal standpoint?
I’m fortunate to practice at a place like Scripps, where there are many resources to look at what was happening with COVID-19. Clinically, we had to put a lot of things on hold, but we tried our best to keep our cancer patients in particular in the forefront of care. It has been a challenge, but fortunately we have been able to take care of patients after a brief timeout. Many of us remember the polio vaccine back in the 1950s. Having worked overseas and at missionary hospital where we had children die of measles because they were not vaccinated gave me a larger appreciation for the importance of vaccines. I recommend all young physicians who work with me to read, “The Great Influenza: The Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History,” by John M. Barry, which recounts the 1918 flu epidemic.
Who inspires you most in your work today?
I don’t view what I do as work. Dr. Jones and Dr. Mohs continue to inspire me with what they accomplished during their careers. You have to love people and love patients. Every patient who comes to see me has a story, so I try to understand their story. One of the things I really enjoy is training the young fellows. We train three Mohs fellows per year at Scripps, and it’s a great challenge every day.
What development in dermatology are you most excited about in the next 5 years?
Dermatology will continue to evolve just like all other medical specialties. We’re going to see a large growth in telemedicine, and immunotherapy is playing a key role in dermatologic oncology. What excites me the most in medicine is the young people who enter the field willing to contribute their lives to helping others.
who was also recently selected as program director for cutaneous oncology at Scripps MD Anderson Cancer Center in San Diego. He is also a former president of the American College of Mohs Surgery.
After earning his medical degree from the Medical College of Georgia, Augusta, in 1974, Dr. Greenway was fellowship trained in Mohs skin cancer surgery by Frederic E. Mohs, MD, at the University of Wisconsin–Madison. He completed his dermatology residency at the Naval Medical Center San Diego and joined Scripps Clinic in 1983, where he launched the institution’s first Mohs surgery program, as well as a popular annual intensive course in superficial anatomy and cutaneous surgery that bears his name. He was also the first physician in the world to use interferon as a nonsurgical treatment of basal cell carcinoma.
To date, Dr. Greenway has performed more than 41,000 Mohs surgery cases and has trained 61 fellows who practice in academic and clinical settings. In 2017, he received the Frederic E. Mohs Award from the ACMS at the college’s annual meeting. He is also a past CEO of Scripps Clinic. In this Q&A, Dr. Greenway opens up about what it was like to train with Dr. Mohs, what makes a good Mohs surgeon, and why he’s excited about the future of dermatology.
I understand that you first became interested in a medical career after meeting Dr. Carl Jones, a friend of your father who was your Scoutmaster in the Boy Scouts in Georgia. What about Dr. Jones inspired you to pursue a career in medicine?
Dr. Jones was an internist/allergist in Atlanta, where I grew up. His three sons and I were friends. My dad had dealt with several medical problems being injured in World War II and subsequently undergoing a couple of kidney transplantations, so I developed an interest in medicine personally. Even though Dr. Jones was a specialist, he started out as a family doctor like I did, so he was interested in the whole person and all of his or her medical problems as opposed to those related to his specialty only. I traveled with the Boy Scouts to camp at places like Valley Forge in Pennsylvania, and Dr. Jones was involved with the medical set-ups of those large events. That also contributed to my interest in medicine.
As part of your 9-year service in the U.S. Navy, you spent 2 years as the flight surgeon at NAS Atlanta/Dobbins Air Force Base. What was your most memorable experience from that assignment?
Dobbins is a large facility with two Lockheed plants, and the Air Force had built the medical clinic, which was staffed by the Navy. Getting to know some of the active-duty members of the Air Force, the Navy, and the National Guard, and their commitment to our country, was memorable. Jimmy Carter was the president in those days. When he would fly in Dobbins, one of my jobs as the flight surgeon was to be on base when Air Force One landed or departed. One night, we had a DC-9 commercial aircraft coming from Huntsville, Ala., to Atlanta that got caught in a thunderstorm a little above 30,000 feet. Both engines went out and the aircraft essentially became a glider. The pilots tried to land on our runway but unfortunately, they ended up 4 miles short. We were heavily involved in responding to the crash, which was a tragic event. I also learned to fly (second seat) different types of aircraft during my assignment at NAS Atlanta/Dobbins Air Force Base, everything from the large C-5s to Navy fighter jets and helicopters. Coincidentally, Dr. Jones was involved with a couple of free health clinics in Atlanta when I was stationed there. Every Tuesday night, my wife (who is a nurse) and I would volunteer at a clinic in Cabbagetown, which was one of the poorer areas of Atlanta. It was a chance to give back to a group of people who didn’t have a whole lot.
In the middle your dermatology residency at Naval Medical Center San Diego, you were selected by Dr. Mohs for fellowship training in Mohs skin cancer surgery at the University of Wisconsin–Madison. What do you remember most about your training with Dr. Mohs?
Dr. Mohs was a kind, humble man who had this great idea about skin cancer. He was not a dermatologist; he was a general surgeon. The technique he developed was originally called chemosurgery because he put a chemical onto the skin. This was known as the fixed-tissue technique. Then we had a fresh-tissue technique, where we did not use the chemical, but we were able to use local anesthesia right away. That developed into the Mohs surgery we know today. Dr. Mohs did not name it that; he was very humble, but he was very proud of his technique. He was also a very hard worker. On the first day of my fellowship, I started at 7 in the morning and ended at 7 at night. It was the same for the last day of my fellowship. He also had an excellent office staff, many of whom had worked with him for many years. Patients with difficult skin cancers traveled to Madison from all over the world because there weren’t that many Mohs surgery clinics in those days. During the latter part of my fellowship, Michael McCall, MD, and I had the opportunity to remove a skin cancer from the nose of Dr. Mohs. We presented the case at a national conference, and I titled the talk “Mohs Surgery for Mohs’ Nose.”
Early in your career Dr. Mohs asked you to take over his practice, but you accepted an offer to establish the first Mohs surgery office at Scripps in San Diego instead. What convinced you to head West?
After my fellowship, I returned to San Diego to complete my residency with the Navy, where we opened a Mohs surgery clinic. Dr. Mohs came out for the ribbon cutting. During that time, I was taking care of several patients that he had treated in Wisconsin. Through that my wife and I ended up going to dinner with Cecil and Ida Green, philanthropists who made several financial gifts to Scripps Clinic – and for whom Scripps Green Hospital is named. Cecil cofounded Texas Instruments and was knighted by Queen Elizabeth. During dinner, he suggested that I stay in San Diego for a year and work at Scripps after my residency assignment with the Navy. I agreed and have been here ever since.
What do you find most interesting about Mohs surgery?
In Mohs surgery, you’re able to provide not only surgical care to eliminate the tumor, but also the pathology and the reconstruction. That was interesting to me. Dr. Mohs was not that interested in reconstruction. He was more focused on the tumor, in part because with the original fixed-tissue technique you could not do the reconstruction. You had to wait for an extra layer of tissue to separate. But with the fresh-tissue technique, you were able to provide the reconstruction that day. Mohs surgery deals with a subset of tumors that are challenging to treat. That also spiked my academic and clinical interest.
In your opinion, what’s been the most important advance in Mohs surgery to date?
In recent years, immunology has come into play, so now we have teams of clinicians in dermatology, medical oncology, surgery, and other subspecialties providing patients the best of care. In the arena of Mohs surgery itself, in the 1980s, the American College of Mohs Surgery developed a 1-year fellowship program, which enabled us to train many men and women to practice Mohs surgery. Most of them are dermatologists.
Please complete the sentence: “You can tell a good Mohs surgeon by the way he/she ...”
Treats patients, is willing to spend time with them, and shows an interest in them. One of the things we should strive for is to let patients know that they as a person are important; it’s not just the melanoma on their nose. We’re not only dealing with a skin cancer; we’re dealing with a patient who has skin cancer.
For the past 39 years, you have led Hugh Greenway’s Superficial Anatomy and Cutaneous Surgery course, which takes place every January in San Diego. What’s been key to sustaining this training course for nearly 4 decades?
There have been many people involved in its success, so it’s not just me. When I first started my practice, there really was not a focus on anatomy in the general dermatologic community. Dermatologic surgery textbooks contained very little content on surgical anatomy so I developed an interest a putting together a course that would cover some of this material. I met with Terence Davidson, MD, an otolaryngologist who was dean of continuing medical education at the University of California, San Diego. The course includes lectures from experts in many subspecialties and hands-on laboratories using cadavers to work on anatomy and surgical techniques. After about 16 years of doing the course Dr. Davidson told me: “When we started this course, as a group, the head and neck surgeons were the best to do the reconstructions on the face with skin flaps and grafts and layered closures. But now, as a group, the dermatologists are best at doing that.” That’s what we want to hear in medical education.
During the peak of the COVID-19 pandemic, what were your most significant challenges from both a clinical and a personal standpoint?
I’m fortunate to practice at a place like Scripps, where there are many resources to look at what was happening with COVID-19. Clinically, we had to put a lot of things on hold, but we tried our best to keep our cancer patients in particular in the forefront of care. It has been a challenge, but fortunately we have been able to take care of patients after a brief timeout. Many of us remember the polio vaccine back in the 1950s. Having worked overseas and at missionary hospital where we had children die of measles because they were not vaccinated gave me a larger appreciation for the importance of vaccines. I recommend all young physicians who work with me to read, “The Great Influenza: The Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History,” by John M. Barry, which recounts the 1918 flu epidemic.
Who inspires you most in your work today?
I don’t view what I do as work. Dr. Jones and Dr. Mohs continue to inspire me with what they accomplished during their careers. You have to love people and love patients. Every patient who comes to see me has a story, so I try to understand their story. One of the things I really enjoy is training the young fellows. We train three Mohs fellows per year at Scripps, and it’s a great challenge every day.
What development in dermatology are you most excited about in the next 5 years?
Dermatology will continue to evolve just like all other medical specialties. We’re going to see a large growth in telemedicine, and immunotherapy is playing a key role in dermatologic oncology. What excites me the most in medicine is the young people who enter the field willing to contribute their lives to helping others.
who was also recently selected as program director for cutaneous oncology at Scripps MD Anderson Cancer Center in San Diego. He is also a former president of the American College of Mohs Surgery.
After earning his medical degree from the Medical College of Georgia, Augusta, in 1974, Dr. Greenway was fellowship trained in Mohs skin cancer surgery by Frederic E. Mohs, MD, at the University of Wisconsin–Madison. He completed his dermatology residency at the Naval Medical Center San Diego and joined Scripps Clinic in 1983, where he launched the institution’s first Mohs surgery program, as well as a popular annual intensive course in superficial anatomy and cutaneous surgery that bears his name. He was also the first physician in the world to use interferon as a nonsurgical treatment of basal cell carcinoma.
To date, Dr. Greenway has performed more than 41,000 Mohs surgery cases and has trained 61 fellows who practice in academic and clinical settings. In 2017, he received the Frederic E. Mohs Award from the ACMS at the college’s annual meeting. He is also a past CEO of Scripps Clinic. In this Q&A, Dr. Greenway opens up about what it was like to train with Dr. Mohs, what makes a good Mohs surgeon, and why he’s excited about the future of dermatology.
I understand that you first became interested in a medical career after meeting Dr. Carl Jones, a friend of your father who was your Scoutmaster in the Boy Scouts in Georgia. What about Dr. Jones inspired you to pursue a career in medicine?
Dr. Jones was an internist/allergist in Atlanta, where I grew up. His three sons and I were friends. My dad had dealt with several medical problems being injured in World War II and subsequently undergoing a couple of kidney transplantations, so I developed an interest in medicine personally. Even though Dr. Jones was a specialist, he started out as a family doctor like I did, so he was interested in the whole person and all of his or her medical problems as opposed to those related to his specialty only. I traveled with the Boy Scouts to camp at places like Valley Forge in Pennsylvania, and Dr. Jones was involved with the medical set-ups of those large events. That also contributed to my interest in medicine.
As part of your 9-year service in the U.S. Navy, you spent 2 years as the flight surgeon at NAS Atlanta/Dobbins Air Force Base. What was your most memorable experience from that assignment?
Dobbins is a large facility with two Lockheed plants, and the Air Force had built the medical clinic, which was staffed by the Navy. Getting to know some of the active-duty members of the Air Force, the Navy, and the National Guard, and their commitment to our country, was memorable. Jimmy Carter was the president in those days. When he would fly in Dobbins, one of my jobs as the flight surgeon was to be on base when Air Force One landed or departed. One night, we had a DC-9 commercial aircraft coming from Huntsville, Ala., to Atlanta that got caught in a thunderstorm a little above 30,000 feet. Both engines went out and the aircraft essentially became a glider. The pilots tried to land on our runway but unfortunately, they ended up 4 miles short. We were heavily involved in responding to the crash, which was a tragic event. I also learned to fly (second seat) different types of aircraft during my assignment at NAS Atlanta/Dobbins Air Force Base, everything from the large C-5s to Navy fighter jets and helicopters. Coincidentally, Dr. Jones was involved with a couple of free health clinics in Atlanta when I was stationed there. Every Tuesday night, my wife (who is a nurse) and I would volunteer at a clinic in Cabbagetown, which was one of the poorer areas of Atlanta. It was a chance to give back to a group of people who didn’t have a whole lot.
In the middle your dermatology residency at Naval Medical Center San Diego, you were selected by Dr. Mohs for fellowship training in Mohs skin cancer surgery at the University of Wisconsin–Madison. What do you remember most about your training with Dr. Mohs?
Dr. Mohs was a kind, humble man who had this great idea about skin cancer. He was not a dermatologist; he was a general surgeon. The technique he developed was originally called chemosurgery because he put a chemical onto the skin. This was known as the fixed-tissue technique. Then we had a fresh-tissue technique, where we did not use the chemical, but we were able to use local anesthesia right away. That developed into the Mohs surgery we know today. Dr. Mohs did not name it that; he was very humble, but he was very proud of his technique. He was also a very hard worker. On the first day of my fellowship, I started at 7 in the morning and ended at 7 at night. It was the same for the last day of my fellowship. He also had an excellent office staff, many of whom had worked with him for many years. Patients with difficult skin cancers traveled to Madison from all over the world because there weren’t that many Mohs surgery clinics in those days. During the latter part of my fellowship, Michael McCall, MD, and I had the opportunity to remove a skin cancer from the nose of Dr. Mohs. We presented the case at a national conference, and I titled the talk “Mohs Surgery for Mohs’ Nose.”
Early in your career Dr. Mohs asked you to take over his practice, but you accepted an offer to establish the first Mohs surgery office at Scripps in San Diego instead. What convinced you to head West?
After my fellowship, I returned to San Diego to complete my residency with the Navy, where we opened a Mohs surgery clinic. Dr. Mohs came out for the ribbon cutting. During that time, I was taking care of several patients that he had treated in Wisconsin. Through that my wife and I ended up going to dinner with Cecil and Ida Green, philanthropists who made several financial gifts to Scripps Clinic – and for whom Scripps Green Hospital is named. Cecil cofounded Texas Instruments and was knighted by Queen Elizabeth. During dinner, he suggested that I stay in San Diego for a year and work at Scripps after my residency assignment with the Navy. I agreed and have been here ever since.
What do you find most interesting about Mohs surgery?
In Mohs surgery, you’re able to provide not only surgical care to eliminate the tumor, but also the pathology and the reconstruction. That was interesting to me. Dr. Mohs was not that interested in reconstruction. He was more focused on the tumor, in part because with the original fixed-tissue technique you could not do the reconstruction. You had to wait for an extra layer of tissue to separate. But with the fresh-tissue technique, you were able to provide the reconstruction that day. Mohs surgery deals with a subset of tumors that are challenging to treat. That also spiked my academic and clinical interest.
In your opinion, what’s been the most important advance in Mohs surgery to date?
In recent years, immunology has come into play, so now we have teams of clinicians in dermatology, medical oncology, surgery, and other subspecialties providing patients the best of care. In the arena of Mohs surgery itself, in the 1980s, the American College of Mohs Surgery developed a 1-year fellowship program, which enabled us to train many men and women to practice Mohs surgery. Most of them are dermatologists.
Please complete the sentence: “You can tell a good Mohs surgeon by the way he/she ...”
Treats patients, is willing to spend time with them, and shows an interest in them. One of the things we should strive for is to let patients know that they as a person are important; it’s not just the melanoma on their nose. We’re not only dealing with a skin cancer; we’re dealing with a patient who has skin cancer.
For the past 39 years, you have led Hugh Greenway’s Superficial Anatomy and Cutaneous Surgery course, which takes place every January in San Diego. What’s been key to sustaining this training course for nearly 4 decades?
There have been many people involved in its success, so it’s not just me. When I first started my practice, there really was not a focus on anatomy in the general dermatologic community. Dermatologic surgery textbooks contained very little content on surgical anatomy so I developed an interest a putting together a course that would cover some of this material. I met with Terence Davidson, MD, an otolaryngologist who was dean of continuing medical education at the University of California, San Diego. The course includes lectures from experts in many subspecialties and hands-on laboratories using cadavers to work on anatomy and surgical techniques. After about 16 years of doing the course Dr. Davidson told me: “When we started this course, as a group, the head and neck surgeons were the best to do the reconstructions on the face with skin flaps and grafts and layered closures. But now, as a group, the dermatologists are best at doing that.” That’s what we want to hear in medical education.
During the peak of the COVID-19 pandemic, what were your most significant challenges from both a clinical and a personal standpoint?
I’m fortunate to practice at a place like Scripps, where there are many resources to look at what was happening with COVID-19. Clinically, we had to put a lot of things on hold, but we tried our best to keep our cancer patients in particular in the forefront of care. It has been a challenge, but fortunately we have been able to take care of patients after a brief timeout. Many of us remember the polio vaccine back in the 1950s. Having worked overseas and at missionary hospital where we had children die of measles because they were not vaccinated gave me a larger appreciation for the importance of vaccines. I recommend all young physicians who work with me to read, “The Great Influenza: The Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History,” by John M. Barry, which recounts the 1918 flu epidemic.
Who inspires you most in your work today?
I don’t view what I do as work. Dr. Jones and Dr. Mohs continue to inspire me with what they accomplished during their careers. You have to love people and love patients. Every patient who comes to see me has a story, so I try to understand their story. One of the things I really enjoy is training the young fellows. We train three Mohs fellows per year at Scripps, and it’s a great challenge every day.
What development in dermatology are you most excited about in the next 5 years?
Dermatology will continue to evolve just like all other medical specialties. We’re going to see a large growth in telemedicine, and immunotherapy is playing a key role in dermatologic oncology. What excites me the most in medicine is the young people who enter the field willing to contribute their lives to helping others.
Safety of combining fillers and lasers in one session evaluated over 6 years
SAN DIEGO – of the filled area, results from a single-center, retrospective study showed.
“Data on the safety of pairing single-session treatment with nonablative fractional 1,927-nm thulium and/or 1,550-nm erbium laser and fillers are lacking,” Shirin Bajaj, MD, said during a clinical abstract session at the annual conference of the American Society for Laser Medicine and Surgery. “Anecdotally, we have found this to be completely safe in our high-volume laser center. We typically do fillers first, followed by laser treatment.”
For the study, Dr. Bajaj, a dermatology fellow at the Laser & Skin Surgery Center of New York, and colleagues retrospectively reviewed the charts of 638 patients who had 1,186 single‐session facial treatments with nonablative fractional 1,927-nm thulium and/or 1,550-nm erbium laser (Fraxel DUAL by Solta) and injectable hyaluronic acid filler from August 2015 to June 2021. Safety over the 6-year period was assessed by the adverse events that occurred within the first 4 weeks. The mean age of patients at the time of treatment was 60 years and 95% were female. Fitzpatrick skin types were type 1 (46.1%), type II (48.1%), type III (5.5%), and type IV (0.3%).
Most patients had 1 single‐session treatment (64.3%); the rest had 2 sessions (17.7%), 3 sessions (8%), or 4-18 sessions (10%). Most (91.2%) were treated with the 1,927-nm thulium laser, while 1.8% were treated with the 1,550-nm erbium laser; the mean total energy delivered was 1.3 kilojoules. A small number of patients (7.0%) received treatment with both lasers.
The most common area treated with filler injections were the cheeks and/or tear troughs (85.6%), followed by the perioral area and/or marionette lines (83.7%), temples (31%), nasolabial folds (25.5%), lips (24%), jawline (23.8%), chin (6.5%), forehead (1.4%), glabella and brows (0.5% each), neck (0.3%), and nose (0.1%). One syringe of filler was used in 58.7% of cases, compared with two syringes in 28.7% of cases, three syringes in 9.9% of cases, and four to six syringes in 2.8% of cases.
Dr. Bajaj reported that of the 1,186 single‐session treatments, no adverse events were recorded that were directly related to spread of filler or laser treatment of the filled area, including product migration, unexpected loss of filler volume, vascular occlusion, acute pain, cutaneous necrosis, blindness, and cutaneous burn. There were no hospital or emergency department transfers or admissions and referrals to ENT specialists or ophthalmologists for additional work‐up.
“This is at a busy cosmetic dermatology and plastic surgery practice,” Dr. Bajaj said. “Additional studies may be needed to further validate our findings.”
The study’s lead author was Jordan V. Wang, MD, who is medical research director at the Laser & Skin Surgery Center of New York.
“At most, this retrospective data confirms what we have known for years to be true: that combination treatments with injectables including fillers are safe,” Catherine M. DiGiorgio, MD, a dermatologist who practices at the Boston Center for Facial Rejuvenation, told this news organization. “This is a small study out of a single office, so that is a limitation. However, many dermatologists have performed Fraxel plus filler treatments in the same session daily for the last 10 years without any issues.”
Dr. DiGiorgio was asked to comment on the results and was not an investigator.
Dr. Bajaj reported having no financial disclosures. Dr. Wang reported that he has received grants and/or research funding from ALASTIN Skincare, Cynosure, Lutronic, Novoxel, Sofwave, Solta Medical, Blossom Innovations, Allergan, Accure Acne Inc., and Soliton. Dr. DiGiorgio reported having no relevant disclosures.
SAN DIEGO – of the filled area, results from a single-center, retrospective study showed.
“Data on the safety of pairing single-session treatment with nonablative fractional 1,927-nm thulium and/or 1,550-nm erbium laser and fillers are lacking,” Shirin Bajaj, MD, said during a clinical abstract session at the annual conference of the American Society for Laser Medicine and Surgery. “Anecdotally, we have found this to be completely safe in our high-volume laser center. We typically do fillers first, followed by laser treatment.”
For the study, Dr. Bajaj, a dermatology fellow at the Laser & Skin Surgery Center of New York, and colleagues retrospectively reviewed the charts of 638 patients who had 1,186 single‐session facial treatments with nonablative fractional 1,927-nm thulium and/or 1,550-nm erbium laser (Fraxel DUAL by Solta) and injectable hyaluronic acid filler from August 2015 to June 2021. Safety over the 6-year period was assessed by the adverse events that occurred within the first 4 weeks. The mean age of patients at the time of treatment was 60 years and 95% were female. Fitzpatrick skin types were type 1 (46.1%), type II (48.1%), type III (5.5%), and type IV (0.3%).
Most patients had 1 single‐session treatment (64.3%); the rest had 2 sessions (17.7%), 3 sessions (8%), or 4-18 sessions (10%). Most (91.2%) were treated with the 1,927-nm thulium laser, while 1.8% were treated with the 1,550-nm erbium laser; the mean total energy delivered was 1.3 kilojoules. A small number of patients (7.0%) received treatment with both lasers.
The most common area treated with filler injections were the cheeks and/or tear troughs (85.6%), followed by the perioral area and/or marionette lines (83.7%), temples (31%), nasolabial folds (25.5%), lips (24%), jawline (23.8%), chin (6.5%), forehead (1.4%), glabella and brows (0.5% each), neck (0.3%), and nose (0.1%). One syringe of filler was used in 58.7% of cases, compared with two syringes in 28.7% of cases, three syringes in 9.9% of cases, and four to six syringes in 2.8% of cases.
Dr. Bajaj reported that of the 1,186 single‐session treatments, no adverse events were recorded that were directly related to spread of filler or laser treatment of the filled area, including product migration, unexpected loss of filler volume, vascular occlusion, acute pain, cutaneous necrosis, blindness, and cutaneous burn. There were no hospital or emergency department transfers or admissions and referrals to ENT specialists or ophthalmologists for additional work‐up.
“This is at a busy cosmetic dermatology and plastic surgery practice,” Dr. Bajaj said. “Additional studies may be needed to further validate our findings.”
The study’s lead author was Jordan V. Wang, MD, who is medical research director at the Laser & Skin Surgery Center of New York.
“At most, this retrospective data confirms what we have known for years to be true: that combination treatments with injectables including fillers are safe,” Catherine M. DiGiorgio, MD, a dermatologist who practices at the Boston Center for Facial Rejuvenation, told this news organization. “This is a small study out of a single office, so that is a limitation. However, many dermatologists have performed Fraxel plus filler treatments in the same session daily for the last 10 years without any issues.”
Dr. DiGiorgio was asked to comment on the results and was not an investigator.
Dr. Bajaj reported having no financial disclosures. Dr. Wang reported that he has received grants and/or research funding from ALASTIN Skincare, Cynosure, Lutronic, Novoxel, Sofwave, Solta Medical, Blossom Innovations, Allergan, Accure Acne Inc., and Soliton. Dr. DiGiorgio reported having no relevant disclosures.
SAN DIEGO – of the filled area, results from a single-center, retrospective study showed.
“Data on the safety of pairing single-session treatment with nonablative fractional 1,927-nm thulium and/or 1,550-nm erbium laser and fillers are lacking,” Shirin Bajaj, MD, said during a clinical abstract session at the annual conference of the American Society for Laser Medicine and Surgery. “Anecdotally, we have found this to be completely safe in our high-volume laser center. We typically do fillers first, followed by laser treatment.”
For the study, Dr. Bajaj, a dermatology fellow at the Laser & Skin Surgery Center of New York, and colleagues retrospectively reviewed the charts of 638 patients who had 1,186 single‐session facial treatments with nonablative fractional 1,927-nm thulium and/or 1,550-nm erbium laser (Fraxel DUAL by Solta) and injectable hyaluronic acid filler from August 2015 to June 2021. Safety over the 6-year period was assessed by the adverse events that occurred within the first 4 weeks. The mean age of patients at the time of treatment was 60 years and 95% were female. Fitzpatrick skin types were type 1 (46.1%), type II (48.1%), type III (5.5%), and type IV (0.3%).
Most patients had 1 single‐session treatment (64.3%); the rest had 2 sessions (17.7%), 3 sessions (8%), or 4-18 sessions (10%). Most (91.2%) were treated with the 1,927-nm thulium laser, while 1.8% were treated with the 1,550-nm erbium laser; the mean total energy delivered was 1.3 kilojoules. A small number of patients (7.0%) received treatment with both lasers.
The most common area treated with filler injections were the cheeks and/or tear troughs (85.6%), followed by the perioral area and/or marionette lines (83.7%), temples (31%), nasolabial folds (25.5%), lips (24%), jawline (23.8%), chin (6.5%), forehead (1.4%), glabella and brows (0.5% each), neck (0.3%), and nose (0.1%). One syringe of filler was used in 58.7% of cases, compared with two syringes in 28.7% of cases, three syringes in 9.9% of cases, and four to six syringes in 2.8% of cases.
Dr. Bajaj reported that of the 1,186 single‐session treatments, no adverse events were recorded that were directly related to spread of filler or laser treatment of the filled area, including product migration, unexpected loss of filler volume, vascular occlusion, acute pain, cutaneous necrosis, blindness, and cutaneous burn. There were no hospital or emergency department transfers or admissions and referrals to ENT specialists or ophthalmologists for additional work‐up.
“This is at a busy cosmetic dermatology and plastic surgery practice,” Dr. Bajaj said. “Additional studies may be needed to further validate our findings.”
The study’s lead author was Jordan V. Wang, MD, who is medical research director at the Laser & Skin Surgery Center of New York.
“At most, this retrospective data confirms what we have known for years to be true: that combination treatments with injectables including fillers are safe,” Catherine M. DiGiorgio, MD, a dermatologist who practices at the Boston Center for Facial Rejuvenation, told this news organization. “This is a small study out of a single office, so that is a limitation. However, many dermatologists have performed Fraxel plus filler treatments in the same session daily for the last 10 years without any issues.”
Dr. DiGiorgio was asked to comment on the results and was not an investigator.
Dr. Bajaj reported having no financial disclosures. Dr. Wang reported that he has received grants and/or research funding from ALASTIN Skincare, Cynosure, Lutronic, Novoxel, Sofwave, Solta Medical, Blossom Innovations, Allergan, Accure Acne Inc., and Soliton. Dr. DiGiorgio reported having no relevant disclosures.
AT ASLMS 2022
Device that couples US, radiofrequency shows promise for wrinkles, skin laxity
SAN DIEGO – .
“We’ve done a lot of work with radiofrequency, and we’ve done a lot of work with ultrasound,” Suneel Chilukuri, MD, said in an interview in advance of a clinical abstract session at the annual conference of the American Society for Laser Medicine and Surgery. “The question becomes, is there truly a difference if we’re combining them together?”
To find out, Dr. Chilukuri, a dermatologist who practices in Houston, Tex., and colleagues conducted an IRB-approved trial of a new device that allows for the delivery of radiofrequency (RF) and targeted ultrasound (TUS) in a single applicator. The device, which is not yet named, has been cleared by the Food and Drug Administration and is expected to be available in the fourth quarter of 2022.
In a single‐blinded study, 21 adults were randomized to receive RF and TUS (group A), while 20 received RF alone (group B). The mean age of patients was 57 years and 38 were women. Patients in each group received four full‐face treatments delivered once per week. Dr. Chilukuri and colleagues used the ElastiMeter to quantitatively measure skin properties at baseline, 1‐month, and 3‐month follow‐up visits. They also took digital photos at each follow-up visit and applied the Fitzpatrick Wrinkle and Elastosis Scale (FWS), and the Global Aesthetic Improvement Scale (GAIS scale) to each one, in addition to performing 3D analysis.
Dr. Chilukuri reported that patients in group A showed superior improvement of skin elasticity compared with those in group B. At 3 months, the preliminary skin elasticity data showed an improvement in the periorbital region by 13.6 N/m (34.7% improvement) and 8.1 N/m (22.2% improvement) in group A and B, respectively. (N/m is a measure of elasticity.)
3D photographs also demonstrated superior results in group A, achieving an improvement of 5.3 points (27.7%) and 4.6 points (24.4%) in wrinkles and skin evenness, respectively. Those in group A achieved marked improvement in both FWS and GAIS scales, compared with their counterparts in group B, he said.
“I think this is going to be one more very useful, versatile tool in our toolbox,” Dr. Chilukuri said of the new device, noting that for both the investigators and the patients, there was greater treatment satisfaction for the areas treated with combined radiofrequency and ultrasound. “It’s something that’s effective, painless, and the treatment time is very short – approximately 10 minutes per side. It’s extremely tolerable and the results were similar to 6-month results I get with fractionated ablative resurfacing, but without the downtime, without the handholding, without any pain.”
Moreover, he added, many patients in the trial have asked to have further treatments “and are on a waiting list for when the product launches.”
He and his colleagues also observed improvements in skin hydration among patients in group A, based on readings from a MoistureMeterSC, which measures skin hydration, a finding that he characterized as “unexpected and interesting.”
Dr. Chilukuri speculated that combining TUS and RF allows for better heat dispersion into the epidermis. “If you get to the proper temperature, which is somewhere between 40 and 42 degrees, and if you can keep it for about 10 minutes, we know that there will be proper stimulation of senescent fibroblasts,” he explained.
“I can’t say that seborrheic keratosis is improved or hyperpigmentation is improved, but the heat generation leads to immediate vasodilation to improve blood flow to treated areas. That results in immediate collagen contraction as well as improved autophagy, removal of age-related cellular debris. With the long term neovascularization, you’re going to see more change with the fibroblast activity leading to collagenesis and elastogenesis.”
Use of the device is not indicated for patients with metal implants in the head and neck region, he noted. “I’d also be cautious about using it in people with melasma as the device’s mechanism is based on heat,” since current scientific evidence shows that heat can worsen melasma, he added. “For now, I recommend caution until we perform a split-face study or develop specific treatment parameters for those patients with melasma.”
“We know that skin tightening is a difficult task for a nonablative, nonsurgical device,” said Murad Alam, MD, professor and vice-chair of dermatology and chief of the section of cutaneous and aesthetic surgery at Northwestern University, Chicago, who was asked to comment on the study.
“The promise is of limited downtime, lack of scars, and minimal discomfort, but we haven’t yet had a home run. As a consequence, there’s a constant effort to develop new and better devices. This study is interesting because it shows that yes, a new and better device might be good, but let’s not overlook the idea of having multiple devices at the same time. The nice thing they’ve shown is that from a safety standpoint, using both radiofrequency and ultrasound was tolerable in terms of safety, discomfort, and downtime.”
BTL Aesthetics, the manufacturer, loaned the device used in the trial. Dr. Chilukuri reported having no other financial conflicts for this study. Dr. Alam reported having no disclosures.
SAN DIEGO – .
“We’ve done a lot of work with radiofrequency, and we’ve done a lot of work with ultrasound,” Suneel Chilukuri, MD, said in an interview in advance of a clinical abstract session at the annual conference of the American Society for Laser Medicine and Surgery. “The question becomes, is there truly a difference if we’re combining them together?”
To find out, Dr. Chilukuri, a dermatologist who practices in Houston, Tex., and colleagues conducted an IRB-approved trial of a new device that allows for the delivery of radiofrequency (RF) and targeted ultrasound (TUS) in a single applicator. The device, which is not yet named, has been cleared by the Food and Drug Administration and is expected to be available in the fourth quarter of 2022.
In a single‐blinded study, 21 adults were randomized to receive RF and TUS (group A), while 20 received RF alone (group B). The mean age of patients was 57 years and 38 were women. Patients in each group received four full‐face treatments delivered once per week. Dr. Chilukuri and colleagues used the ElastiMeter to quantitatively measure skin properties at baseline, 1‐month, and 3‐month follow‐up visits. They also took digital photos at each follow-up visit and applied the Fitzpatrick Wrinkle and Elastosis Scale (FWS), and the Global Aesthetic Improvement Scale (GAIS scale) to each one, in addition to performing 3D analysis.
Dr. Chilukuri reported that patients in group A showed superior improvement of skin elasticity compared with those in group B. At 3 months, the preliminary skin elasticity data showed an improvement in the periorbital region by 13.6 N/m (34.7% improvement) and 8.1 N/m (22.2% improvement) in group A and B, respectively. (N/m is a measure of elasticity.)
3D photographs also demonstrated superior results in group A, achieving an improvement of 5.3 points (27.7%) and 4.6 points (24.4%) in wrinkles and skin evenness, respectively. Those in group A achieved marked improvement in both FWS and GAIS scales, compared with their counterparts in group B, he said.
“I think this is going to be one more very useful, versatile tool in our toolbox,” Dr. Chilukuri said of the new device, noting that for both the investigators and the patients, there was greater treatment satisfaction for the areas treated with combined radiofrequency and ultrasound. “It’s something that’s effective, painless, and the treatment time is very short – approximately 10 minutes per side. It’s extremely tolerable and the results were similar to 6-month results I get with fractionated ablative resurfacing, but without the downtime, without the handholding, without any pain.”
Moreover, he added, many patients in the trial have asked to have further treatments “and are on a waiting list for when the product launches.”
He and his colleagues also observed improvements in skin hydration among patients in group A, based on readings from a MoistureMeterSC, which measures skin hydration, a finding that he characterized as “unexpected and interesting.”
Dr. Chilukuri speculated that combining TUS and RF allows for better heat dispersion into the epidermis. “If you get to the proper temperature, which is somewhere between 40 and 42 degrees, and if you can keep it for about 10 minutes, we know that there will be proper stimulation of senescent fibroblasts,” he explained.
“I can’t say that seborrheic keratosis is improved or hyperpigmentation is improved, but the heat generation leads to immediate vasodilation to improve blood flow to treated areas. That results in immediate collagen contraction as well as improved autophagy, removal of age-related cellular debris. With the long term neovascularization, you’re going to see more change with the fibroblast activity leading to collagenesis and elastogenesis.”
Use of the device is not indicated for patients with metal implants in the head and neck region, he noted. “I’d also be cautious about using it in people with melasma as the device’s mechanism is based on heat,” since current scientific evidence shows that heat can worsen melasma, he added. “For now, I recommend caution until we perform a split-face study or develop specific treatment parameters for those patients with melasma.”
“We know that skin tightening is a difficult task for a nonablative, nonsurgical device,” said Murad Alam, MD, professor and vice-chair of dermatology and chief of the section of cutaneous and aesthetic surgery at Northwestern University, Chicago, who was asked to comment on the study.
“The promise is of limited downtime, lack of scars, and minimal discomfort, but we haven’t yet had a home run. As a consequence, there’s a constant effort to develop new and better devices. This study is interesting because it shows that yes, a new and better device might be good, but let’s not overlook the idea of having multiple devices at the same time. The nice thing they’ve shown is that from a safety standpoint, using both radiofrequency and ultrasound was tolerable in terms of safety, discomfort, and downtime.”
BTL Aesthetics, the manufacturer, loaned the device used in the trial. Dr. Chilukuri reported having no other financial conflicts for this study. Dr. Alam reported having no disclosures.
SAN DIEGO – .
“We’ve done a lot of work with radiofrequency, and we’ve done a lot of work with ultrasound,” Suneel Chilukuri, MD, said in an interview in advance of a clinical abstract session at the annual conference of the American Society for Laser Medicine and Surgery. “The question becomes, is there truly a difference if we’re combining them together?”
To find out, Dr. Chilukuri, a dermatologist who practices in Houston, Tex., and colleagues conducted an IRB-approved trial of a new device that allows for the delivery of radiofrequency (RF) and targeted ultrasound (TUS) in a single applicator. The device, which is not yet named, has been cleared by the Food and Drug Administration and is expected to be available in the fourth quarter of 2022.
In a single‐blinded study, 21 adults were randomized to receive RF and TUS (group A), while 20 received RF alone (group B). The mean age of patients was 57 years and 38 were women. Patients in each group received four full‐face treatments delivered once per week. Dr. Chilukuri and colleagues used the ElastiMeter to quantitatively measure skin properties at baseline, 1‐month, and 3‐month follow‐up visits. They also took digital photos at each follow-up visit and applied the Fitzpatrick Wrinkle and Elastosis Scale (FWS), and the Global Aesthetic Improvement Scale (GAIS scale) to each one, in addition to performing 3D analysis.
Dr. Chilukuri reported that patients in group A showed superior improvement of skin elasticity compared with those in group B. At 3 months, the preliminary skin elasticity data showed an improvement in the periorbital region by 13.6 N/m (34.7% improvement) and 8.1 N/m (22.2% improvement) in group A and B, respectively. (N/m is a measure of elasticity.)
3D photographs also demonstrated superior results in group A, achieving an improvement of 5.3 points (27.7%) and 4.6 points (24.4%) in wrinkles and skin evenness, respectively. Those in group A achieved marked improvement in both FWS and GAIS scales, compared with their counterparts in group B, he said.
“I think this is going to be one more very useful, versatile tool in our toolbox,” Dr. Chilukuri said of the new device, noting that for both the investigators and the patients, there was greater treatment satisfaction for the areas treated with combined radiofrequency and ultrasound. “It’s something that’s effective, painless, and the treatment time is very short – approximately 10 minutes per side. It’s extremely tolerable and the results were similar to 6-month results I get with fractionated ablative resurfacing, but without the downtime, without the handholding, without any pain.”
Moreover, he added, many patients in the trial have asked to have further treatments “and are on a waiting list for when the product launches.”
He and his colleagues also observed improvements in skin hydration among patients in group A, based on readings from a MoistureMeterSC, which measures skin hydration, a finding that he characterized as “unexpected and interesting.”
Dr. Chilukuri speculated that combining TUS and RF allows for better heat dispersion into the epidermis. “If you get to the proper temperature, which is somewhere between 40 and 42 degrees, and if you can keep it for about 10 minutes, we know that there will be proper stimulation of senescent fibroblasts,” he explained.
“I can’t say that seborrheic keratosis is improved or hyperpigmentation is improved, but the heat generation leads to immediate vasodilation to improve blood flow to treated areas. That results in immediate collagen contraction as well as improved autophagy, removal of age-related cellular debris. With the long term neovascularization, you’re going to see more change with the fibroblast activity leading to collagenesis and elastogenesis.”
Use of the device is not indicated for patients with metal implants in the head and neck region, he noted. “I’d also be cautious about using it in people with melasma as the device’s mechanism is based on heat,” since current scientific evidence shows that heat can worsen melasma, he added. “For now, I recommend caution until we perform a split-face study or develop specific treatment parameters for those patients with melasma.”
“We know that skin tightening is a difficult task for a nonablative, nonsurgical device,” said Murad Alam, MD, professor and vice-chair of dermatology and chief of the section of cutaneous and aesthetic surgery at Northwestern University, Chicago, who was asked to comment on the study.
“The promise is of limited downtime, lack of scars, and minimal discomfort, but we haven’t yet had a home run. As a consequence, there’s a constant effort to develop new and better devices. This study is interesting because it shows that yes, a new and better device might be good, but let’s not overlook the idea of having multiple devices at the same time. The nice thing they’ve shown is that from a safety standpoint, using both radiofrequency and ultrasound was tolerable in terms of safety, discomfort, and downtime.”
BTL Aesthetics, the manufacturer, loaned the device used in the trial. Dr. Chilukuri reported having no other financial conflicts for this study. Dr. Alam reported having no disclosures.
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CO2 laser excision therapy for hidradenitis suppurativa shows no keloid risk
BOSTON – The use of , new research shows.
“With keloids disproportionately affecting Black and other skin of color patients, denying treatment on a notion that lacks evidentiary support further potentiates the health disparities experienced by these marginalized groups,” the researchers reported at the Annual Meeting of the Skin of Color Society Scientific Symposium (SOCS) 2022. In their retrospective study of 129 patients with HS treated with CO2 laser, “there were no cases of keloid formation,” they say.
HS, a potentially debilitating chronic inflammatory condition that involves painful nodules, boils, and abscesses, is often refractory to standard treatment. CO2 laser excision therapy has yielded favorable outcomes in some studies.
Although CO2 laser therapy is also used to treat keloids, some clinicians hesitate to use this treatment in these patients because of concerns that its use for treating HS could trigger the development of keloids.
“Many patients come in telling us they were denied [CO2 laser] surgery due to keloids,” senior author Iltefat Hamzavi, MD, a senior staff physician in the Department of Dermatology at the Henry Ford Health System, Detroit, told this news organization.
Although patients with HS are commonly treated with CO2 laser excision in his department, this treatment approach “is underused nationally,” he said.
“Of note, the sinus tunnels of hidradenitis suppurativa can look like keloids, so this might drive surgeons away from treating [those] lesions,” Dr. Hamzavi said.
To further evaluate the risk of developing keloids with the treatment, Dr. Hamzavi and his colleagues conducted a retrospective review of 129 patients with HS treated at Henry Ford who had undergone follicular destruction with CO2 laser between 2014 and 2021; 102 (79%) patients were female. The mean age was about 38 years (range, 15-78 years).
Of the patients, almost half were Black, almost 40% were White, 5% were Asian, and 3% were of unknown ethnicity.
Medical records of nine patients included diagnoses of keloids or hypertrophic scars. Further review indicated that none of the diagnoses were for keloids but were for hypertrophic scars, hypertrophic granulation tissue, an HS nodule, or contracture scar, the authors report.
“While the emergence of hypertrophic scars, hypertrophic granulation tissue, and scar contracture following CO2 laser excision therapy for hidradenitis suppurativa has been documented in the literature, existing evidence does not support postoperative keloid formation,” the authors conclude.
Because healing time with CO2 laser treatment is prolonged and there is an increase in risk of adverse events, Dr. Hamzavi underscored that “safety protocols for CO2 lasers should be followed, and wound prep instructions should be provided along with counseling on healing times.”
Regarding patient selection, he noted that “the disease should be medically stable with reduction in drainage to help control postop bleeding risk.”
The findings of the study are supported by a recent systematic review that compared outcomes and adverse effects of treatment with ablative laser therapies with nonablative lasers for skin resurfacing. The review included 34 studies and involved 1,093 patients. The conditions that were treated ranged from photodamage and acne scars to HS and post-traumatic scarring from basal cell carcinoma excision.
That review found that overall, rates of adverse events were higher with nonablative therapies (12.2%, 31 events), compared with ablative laser therapy, such as with CO2 laser (8.28%, 81 events). In addition, when transient events were excluded, ablative lasers were associated with fewer complications overall, compared with nonablative lasers (2.56% vs. 7.48%).
The authors conclude: “It is our hope that this study will facilitate continued research in this domain in an effort to combat these inequities and improve access to CO2 excision or standardized excisional therapy for hidradenitis suppurativa treatment.”
Dr. Hamzavi and the other authors have disclosed no relevant financial relationships.
A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.
BOSTON – The use of , new research shows.
“With keloids disproportionately affecting Black and other skin of color patients, denying treatment on a notion that lacks evidentiary support further potentiates the health disparities experienced by these marginalized groups,” the researchers reported at the Annual Meeting of the Skin of Color Society Scientific Symposium (SOCS) 2022. In their retrospective study of 129 patients with HS treated with CO2 laser, “there were no cases of keloid formation,” they say.
HS, a potentially debilitating chronic inflammatory condition that involves painful nodules, boils, and abscesses, is often refractory to standard treatment. CO2 laser excision therapy has yielded favorable outcomes in some studies.
Although CO2 laser therapy is also used to treat keloids, some clinicians hesitate to use this treatment in these patients because of concerns that its use for treating HS could trigger the development of keloids.
“Many patients come in telling us they were denied [CO2 laser] surgery due to keloids,” senior author Iltefat Hamzavi, MD, a senior staff physician in the Department of Dermatology at the Henry Ford Health System, Detroit, told this news organization.
Although patients with HS are commonly treated with CO2 laser excision in his department, this treatment approach “is underused nationally,” he said.
“Of note, the sinus tunnels of hidradenitis suppurativa can look like keloids, so this might drive surgeons away from treating [those] lesions,” Dr. Hamzavi said.
To further evaluate the risk of developing keloids with the treatment, Dr. Hamzavi and his colleagues conducted a retrospective review of 129 patients with HS treated at Henry Ford who had undergone follicular destruction with CO2 laser between 2014 and 2021; 102 (79%) patients were female. The mean age was about 38 years (range, 15-78 years).
Of the patients, almost half were Black, almost 40% were White, 5% were Asian, and 3% were of unknown ethnicity.
Medical records of nine patients included diagnoses of keloids or hypertrophic scars. Further review indicated that none of the diagnoses were for keloids but were for hypertrophic scars, hypertrophic granulation tissue, an HS nodule, or contracture scar, the authors report.
“While the emergence of hypertrophic scars, hypertrophic granulation tissue, and scar contracture following CO2 laser excision therapy for hidradenitis suppurativa has been documented in the literature, existing evidence does not support postoperative keloid formation,” the authors conclude.
Because healing time with CO2 laser treatment is prolonged and there is an increase in risk of adverse events, Dr. Hamzavi underscored that “safety protocols for CO2 lasers should be followed, and wound prep instructions should be provided along with counseling on healing times.”
Regarding patient selection, he noted that “the disease should be medically stable with reduction in drainage to help control postop bleeding risk.”
The findings of the study are supported by a recent systematic review that compared outcomes and adverse effects of treatment with ablative laser therapies with nonablative lasers for skin resurfacing. The review included 34 studies and involved 1,093 patients. The conditions that were treated ranged from photodamage and acne scars to HS and post-traumatic scarring from basal cell carcinoma excision.
That review found that overall, rates of adverse events were higher with nonablative therapies (12.2%, 31 events), compared with ablative laser therapy, such as with CO2 laser (8.28%, 81 events). In addition, when transient events were excluded, ablative lasers were associated with fewer complications overall, compared with nonablative lasers (2.56% vs. 7.48%).
The authors conclude: “It is our hope that this study will facilitate continued research in this domain in an effort to combat these inequities and improve access to CO2 excision or standardized excisional therapy for hidradenitis suppurativa treatment.”
Dr. Hamzavi and the other authors have disclosed no relevant financial relationships.
A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.
BOSTON – The use of , new research shows.
“With keloids disproportionately affecting Black and other skin of color patients, denying treatment on a notion that lacks evidentiary support further potentiates the health disparities experienced by these marginalized groups,” the researchers reported at the Annual Meeting of the Skin of Color Society Scientific Symposium (SOCS) 2022. In their retrospective study of 129 patients with HS treated with CO2 laser, “there were no cases of keloid formation,” they say.
HS, a potentially debilitating chronic inflammatory condition that involves painful nodules, boils, and abscesses, is often refractory to standard treatment. CO2 laser excision therapy has yielded favorable outcomes in some studies.
Although CO2 laser therapy is also used to treat keloids, some clinicians hesitate to use this treatment in these patients because of concerns that its use for treating HS could trigger the development of keloids.
“Many patients come in telling us they were denied [CO2 laser] surgery due to keloids,” senior author Iltefat Hamzavi, MD, a senior staff physician in the Department of Dermatology at the Henry Ford Health System, Detroit, told this news organization.
Although patients with HS are commonly treated with CO2 laser excision in his department, this treatment approach “is underused nationally,” he said.
“Of note, the sinus tunnels of hidradenitis suppurativa can look like keloids, so this might drive surgeons away from treating [those] lesions,” Dr. Hamzavi said.
To further evaluate the risk of developing keloids with the treatment, Dr. Hamzavi and his colleagues conducted a retrospective review of 129 patients with HS treated at Henry Ford who had undergone follicular destruction with CO2 laser between 2014 and 2021; 102 (79%) patients were female. The mean age was about 38 years (range, 15-78 years).
Of the patients, almost half were Black, almost 40% were White, 5% were Asian, and 3% were of unknown ethnicity.
Medical records of nine patients included diagnoses of keloids or hypertrophic scars. Further review indicated that none of the diagnoses were for keloids but were for hypertrophic scars, hypertrophic granulation tissue, an HS nodule, or contracture scar, the authors report.
“While the emergence of hypertrophic scars, hypertrophic granulation tissue, and scar contracture following CO2 laser excision therapy for hidradenitis suppurativa has been documented in the literature, existing evidence does not support postoperative keloid formation,” the authors conclude.
Because healing time with CO2 laser treatment is prolonged and there is an increase in risk of adverse events, Dr. Hamzavi underscored that “safety protocols for CO2 lasers should be followed, and wound prep instructions should be provided along with counseling on healing times.”
Regarding patient selection, he noted that “the disease should be medically stable with reduction in drainage to help control postop bleeding risk.”
The findings of the study are supported by a recent systematic review that compared outcomes and adverse effects of treatment with ablative laser therapies with nonablative lasers for skin resurfacing. The review included 34 studies and involved 1,093 patients. The conditions that were treated ranged from photodamage and acne scars to HS and post-traumatic scarring from basal cell carcinoma excision.
That review found that overall, rates of adverse events were higher with nonablative therapies (12.2%, 31 events), compared with ablative laser therapy, such as with CO2 laser (8.28%, 81 events). In addition, when transient events were excluded, ablative lasers were associated with fewer complications overall, compared with nonablative lasers (2.56% vs. 7.48%).
The authors conclude: “It is our hope that this study will facilitate continued research in this domain in an effort to combat these inequities and improve access to CO2 excision or standardized excisional therapy for hidradenitis suppurativa treatment.”
Dr. Hamzavi and the other authors have disclosed no relevant financial relationships.
A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.
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FDA warns about off-label use of laparoscopic device for aesthetic procedures
The .
The device is cleared by the FDA for “general use of cutting, coagulation, and ablation of soft tissue during open and laparoscopic surgical procedures” but it “has not been determined to be safe or effective for any procedure intended to improve the appearance of the skin,” according to the March 14 statement from the FDA. The statement adds that the agency has received reports describing “serious and potentially life-threatening adverse events with use of this device for certain aesthetic procedures,” including some that have required treatment in an intensive care unit. The statement does not mention whether any cases were fatal.
Adverse events that have been reported include second- and third-degree burns, infections, changes in skin color, scars, nerve damage, “significant bleeding,” and “air or gas accumulation under the skin, in body cavities, and in blood vessels.”
Manufactured by Apyx medical, the device includes a hand piece and generator and uses radiofrequency energy and helium to generate plasma, which is used to “cut, coagulate ... and eliminate soft tissue with heat during surgery,” according to the FDA.
The FDA is advising health care providers not to use the device for dermal resurfacing or skin contraction “alone or in combination with liposuction.”
The statement also advises consumers who are considering an aesthetic skin treatment with this device to consult their health care providers regarding its use – and if they have any problems or are concerned after being treated with this device, to “seek care from a licensed health care provider.”
The FDA is working with Apyx to evaluate information about the use of the device for aesthetic skin procedures and to inform consumers and health care providers about the warning.
Health care providers and consumers should report problems or complications associated with the Renuvion/J-Plasma device to the FDA’s MedWatch program.
A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.
The .
The device is cleared by the FDA for “general use of cutting, coagulation, and ablation of soft tissue during open and laparoscopic surgical procedures” but it “has not been determined to be safe or effective for any procedure intended to improve the appearance of the skin,” according to the March 14 statement from the FDA. The statement adds that the agency has received reports describing “serious and potentially life-threatening adverse events with use of this device for certain aesthetic procedures,” including some that have required treatment in an intensive care unit. The statement does not mention whether any cases were fatal.
Adverse events that have been reported include second- and third-degree burns, infections, changes in skin color, scars, nerve damage, “significant bleeding,” and “air or gas accumulation under the skin, in body cavities, and in blood vessels.”
Manufactured by Apyx medical, the device includes a hand piece and generator and uses radiofrequency energy and helium to generate plasma, which is used to “cut, coagulate ... and eliminate soft tissue with heat during surgery,” according to the FDA.
The FDA is advising health care providers not to use the device for dermal resurfacing or skin contraction “alone or in combination with liposuction.”
The statement also advises consumers who are considering an aesthetic skin treatment with this device to consult their health care providers regarding its use – and if they have any problems or are concerned after being treated with this device, to “seek care from a licensed health care provider.”
The FDA is working with Apyx to evaluate information about the use of the device for aesthetic skin procedures and to inform consumers and health care providers about the warning.
Health care providers and consumers should report problems or complications associated with the Renuvion/J-Plasma device to the FDA’s MedWatch program.
A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.
The .
The device is cleared by the FDA for “general use of cutting, coagulation, and ablation of soft tissue during open and laparoscopic surgical procedures” but it “has not been determined to be safe or effective for any procedure intended to improve the appearance of the skin,” according to the March 14 statement from the FDA. The statement adds that the agency has received reports describing “serious and potentially life-threatening adverse events with use of this device for certain aesthetic procedures,” including some that have required treatment in an intensive care unit. The statement does not mention whether any cases were fatal.
Adverse events that have been reported include second- and third-degree burns, infections, changes in skin color, scars, nerve damage, “significant bleeding,” and “air or gas accumulation under the skin, in body cavities, and in blood vessels.”
Manufactured by Apyx medical, the device includes a hand piece and generator and uses radiofrequency energy and helium to generate plasma, which is used to “cut, coagulate ... and eliminate soft tissue with heat during surgery,” according to the FDA.
The FDA is advising health care providers not to use the device for dermal resurfacing or skin contraction “alone or in combination with liposuction.”
The statement also advises consumers who are considering an aesthetic skin treatment with this device to consult their health care providers regarding its use – and if they have any problems or are concerned after being treated with this device, to “seek care from a licensed health care provider.”
The FDA is working with Apyx to evaluate information about the use of the device for aesthetic skin procedures and to inform consumers and health care providers about the warning.
Health care providers and consumers should report problems or complications associated with the Renuvion/J-Plasma device to the FDA’s MedWatch program.
A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.
High early recurrence rates with Merkel cell carcinoma
, and more than half of all patients with stage IV disease will have a recurrence within 1 year of definitive therapy, results of a new study show.
A study of 618 patients with MCC who were enrolled in a Seattle-based data repository shows that among all patients the 5-year recurrence rate was 40%. The risk of recurrence within the first year was 11% for patients with pathologic stage I disease, 33% for those with stage IIA/IIB disease, 45% for those with stage IIIB disease, and 58% for patients with pathologic stage IV MCC.
Approximately 95% of all recurrences happened within 3 years of the initial diagnosis, report Aubriana McEvoy, MD, from the University of Washington in Seattle, and colleagues.
“This cohort study indicates that the highest yield (and likely most cost-effective) time period for detecting MCC recurrence is 1-3 years after diagnosis,” they write in a study published online in JAMA Dermatology.
The estimated annual incidence of MCC in the United States in 2018 was 2,000 according to the American Cancer Society. The annual incidence rate is rising rapidly, however, and is estimated to reach 3,284 by 2025, McEvoy and colleagues write.
Although MCC is known to have high recurrence rates and is associated with a higher mortality rate than malignant melanoma, recurrence rate data are not captured by either the Surveillance, Epidemiology, and End Results (SEER) database or by the National Cancer Database. As a result, estimates of recurrence rates with MCC have been all over the map, ranging from 27% to 77%, depending on the population studied.
But as senior author Paul Nghiem, MD, PhD, professor and chair of dermatology at the University of Washington, Seattle, told this news organization, recurrence rates over time in their study were remarkably consistent.
“The biggest surprise to me was that, when we broke our nearly 20-year cohort into three 5- or 6-year chunks, every one of the groups had a 40% recurrence rate, within 1%. So we feel really confident that’s the right number,” he said.
Dr. Nghiem and colleagues report that, in contrast to patients with MCC, approximately 19% of patients with melanoma will have a recurrence, as will an estimated 5%-9% of patients with squamous cell carcinoma and 1%-10% of patients with basal cell carcinoma.
The fact that recurrence rates of MCC have remained stable over time despite presumed improvements in definitive therapy is disappointing, Dr. Nghiem acknowledged. He noted that it’s still unclear whether immunotherapy will have the same dramatic effect on survival rates for patients with MCC as it has for patients with malignant melanoma.
The high recurrence rates following definitive therapy for patients with early-stage disease was a novel finding, commented Shawn Demehri, MD, PhD, director of the high-risk skin cancer clinic at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston.
“When you’re looking at patients with stage I or stage II, and they have definitive surgery but still have recurrences at a higher rate than melanoma, it brings home the point that these are among the most aggressive tumors of the skin,” he said in an interview.
The high recurrence rates seen with MCC are attributable to a variety of factors.
“This is a rare cancer of mostly older individuals with a lot of comorbidities, and also a cancer that, even though it is a primary cancer, might be detected a little later than even a melanoma primary tumor, just because of the nature of the neuroendocrine tumor cells,” he said.
Dr. Demehri was not involved in the study.
Prospective cohort
The study cohort consisted of 618 patients with MCC. The median age of the patients was 69, and 227 (37%) were women. The patients were enrolled within 6 months of their diagnosis in the prospective data repository from 2003 through 2019. Of this group, 223 had a recurrence of MCC.
As noted, there was a high risk of recurrence within 1 year, ranging from 11% for patients with pathologic stage I tumors to 58% for those with stage IV disease, and 95% of all recurrences occurred within 3 years of definitive therapy.
To get a better picture of the natural history of MCC recurrence, the investigators studied a cohort of patients with pathologically confirmed MCC who were prospectively enrolled from January 2003 through April 2019 in a data repository maintained at the University of Washington.
In addition to disease stage, factors associated with increased recurrence risk in univariable analyses include immunosuppression (hazard ratio, 2.4; P < .001), male sex (HR, 1.9; P < .001), known primary lesion among patients with clinically detectable nodal disease (HR, 2.3; P = .001), and older age (HR, 1.1, P = .06 for each 10-year increase).
Of the 187 patients in the cohort who died during the study, 121 died from MCC. At 4 years after diagnosis, MCC-specific survival rates were 95% for patients with pathologic stage I, 84% with stage IIA/IIB, 80% with stage IIIA, 58% with stage IIIB, and 41% with stage IV.
Evidence supports close monitoring within the first 3 years for patients with stage I-II MCC. Local recurrence within or adjacent to the primary tumor scar was associated with a 5-year MCC-specific survival rate of 85%, compared with 88% of patients with stage I or II disease who did not have recurrences.
“Because more than 90% of MCC recurrences arise within 3 years, it is appropriate to adjust surveillance intensity accordingly. Stage- and time-specific recurrence data can assist in appropriately focusing surveillance resources on patients and time intervals in which recurrence risk is highest,” the authors wrote.
“If you’re a patient who has not had your cancer come back for 3, 4, or 5 years, you can really cut down on the intensity of your follow-up and scans,” Dr. Nghiem said.
“We do now have two excellent blood tests that are working very well, and we have really good ways to detect the cancer coming back early, and that’s important, because we have potentially curative therapies that tend to work better if you catch the cancer early,” he said.
The study was supported by the National Institutes of Health. Dr. Nghiem reported personal fees and institutional support outside the study from several companies and patents for Merkel cell therapies with the University of Washington and University of Denmark. Dr. Demehri has disclosed no relevant financial relationships.
A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.
, and more than half of all patients with stage IV disease will have a recurrence within 1 year of definitive therapy, results of a new study show.
A study of 618 patients with MCC who were enrolled in a Seattle-based data repository shows that among all patients the 5-year recurrence rate was 40%. The risk of recurrence within the first year was 11% for patients with pathologic stage I disease, 33% for those with stage IIA/IIB disease, 45% for those with stage IIIB disease, and 58% for patients with pathologic stage IV MCC.
Approximately 95% of all recurrences happened within 3 years of the initial diagnosis, report Aubriana McEvoy, MD, from the University of Washington in Seattle, and colleagues.
“This cohort study indicates that the highest yield (and likely most cost-effective) time period for detecting MCC recurrence is 1-3 years after diagnosis,” they write in a study published online in JAMA Dermatology.
The estimated annual incidence of MCC in the United States in 2018 was 2,000 according to the American Cancer Society. The annual incidence rate is rising rapidly, however, and is estimated to reach 3,284 by 2025, McEvoy and colleagues write.
Although MCC is known to have high recurrence rates and is associated with a higher mortality rate than malignant melanoma, recurrence rate data are not captured by either the Surveillance, Epidemiology, and End Results (SEER) database or by the National Cancer Database. As a result, estimates of recurrence rates with MCC have been all over the map, ranging from 27% to 77%, depending on the population studied.
But as senior author Paul Nghiem, MD, PhD, professor and chair of dermatology at the University of Washington, Seattle, told this news organization, recurrence rates over time in their study were remarkably consistent.
“The biggest surprise to me was that, when we broke our nearly 20-year cohort into three 5- or 6-year chunks, every one of the groups had a 40% recurrence rate, within 1%. So we feel really confident that’s the right number,” he said.
Dr. Nghiem and colleagues report that, in contrast to patients with MCC, approximately 19% of patients with melanoma will have a recurrence, as will an estimated 5%-9% of patients with squamous cell carcinoma and 1%-10% of patients with basal cell carcinoma.
The fact that recurrence rates of MCC have remained stable over time despite presumed improvements in definitive therapy is disappointing, Dr. Nghiem acknowledged. He noted that it’s still unclear whether immunotherapy will have the same dramatic effect on survival rates for patients with MCC as it has for patients with malignant melanoma.
The high recurrence rates following definitive therapy for patients with early-stage disease was a novel finding, commented Shawn Demehri, MD, PhD, director of the high-risk skin cancer clinic at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston.
“When you’re looking at patients with stage I or stage II, and they have definitive surgery but still have recurrences at a higher rate than melanoma, it brings home the point that these are among the most aggressive tumors of the skin,” he said in an interview.
The high recurrence rates seen with MCC are attributable to a variety of factors.
“This is a rare cancer of mostly older individuals with a lot of comorbidities, and also a cancer that, even though it is a primary cancer, might be detected a little later than even a melanoma primary tumor, just because of the nature of the neuroendocrine tumor cells,” he said.
Dr. Demehri was not involved in the study.
Prospective cohort
The study cohort consisted of 618 patients with MCC. The median age of the patients was 69, and 227 (37%) were women. The patients were enrolled within 6 months of their diagnosis in the prospective data repository from 2003 through 2019. Of this group, 223 had a recurrence of MCC.
As noted, there was a high risk of recurrence within 1 year, ranging from 11% for patients with pathologic stage I tumors to 58% for those with stage IV disease, and 95% of all recurrences occurred within 3 years of definitive therapy.
To get a better picture of the natural history of MCC recurrence, the investigators studied a cohort of patients with pathologically confirmed MCC who were prospectively enrolled from January 2003 through April 2019 in a data repository maintained at the University of Washington.
In addition to disease stage, factors associated with increased recurrence risk in univariable analyses include immunosuppression (hazard ratio, 2.4; P < .001), male sex (HR, 1.9; P < .001), known primary lesion among patients with clinically detectable nodal disease (HR, 2.3; P = .001), and older age (HR, 1.1, P = .06 for each 10-year increase).
Of the 187 patients in the cohort who died during the study, 121 died from MCC. At 4 years after diagnosis, MCC-specific survival rates were 95% for patients with pathologic stage I, 84% with stage IIA/IIB, 80% with stage IIIA, 58% with stage IIIB, and 41% with stage IV.
Evidence supports close monitoring within the first 3 years for patients with stage I-II MCC. Local recurrence within or adjacent to the primary tumor scar was associated with a 5-year MCC-specific survival rate of 85%, compared with 88% of patients with stage I or II disease who did not have recurrences.
“Because more than 90% of MCC recurrences arise within 3 years, it is appropriate to adjust surveillance intensity accordingly. Stage- and time-specific recurrence data can assist in appropriately focusing surveillance resources on patients and time intervals in which recurrence risk is highest,” the authors wrote.
“If you’re a patient who has not had your cancer come back for 3, 4, or 5 years, you can really cut down on the intensity of your follow-up and scans,” Dr. Nghiem said.
“We do now have two excellent blood tests that are working very well, and we have really good ways to detect the cancer coming back early, and that’s important, because we have potentially curative therapies that tend to work better if you catch the cancer early,” he said.
The study was supported by the National Institutes of Health. Dr. Nghiem reported personal fees and institutional support outside the study from several companies and patents for Merkel cell therapies with the University of Washington and University of Denmark. Dr. Demehri has disclosed no relevant financial relationships.
A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.
, and more than half of all patients with stage IV disease will have a recurrence within 1 year of definitive therapy, results of a new study show.
A study of 618 patients with MCC who were enrolled in a Seattle-based data repository shows that among all patients the 5-year recurrence rate was 40%. The risk of recurrence within the first year was 11% for patients with pathologic stage I disease, 33% for those with stage IIA/IIB disease, 45% for those with stage IIIB disease, and 58% for patients with pathologic stage IV MCC.
Approximately 95% of all recurrences happened within 3 years of the initial diagnosis, report Aubriana McEvoy, MD, from the University of Washington in Seattle, and colleagues.
“This cohort study indicates that the highest yield (and likely most cost-effective) time period for detecting MCC recurrence is 1-3 years after diagnosis,” they write in a study published online in JAMA Dermatology.
The estimated annual incidence of MCC in the United States in 2018 was 2,000 according to the American Cancer Society. The annual incidence rate is rising rapidly, however, and is estimated to reach 3,284 by 2025, McEvoy and colleagues write.
Although MCC is known to have high recurrence rates and is associated with a higher mortality rate than malignant melanoma, recurrence rate data are not captured by either the Surveillance, Epidemiology, and End Results (SEER) database or by the National Cancer Database. As a result, estimates of recurrence rates with MCC have been all over the map, ranging from 27% to 77%, depending on the population studied.
But as senior author Paul Nghiem, MD, PhD, professor and chair of dermatology at the University of Washington, Seattle, told this news organization, recurrence rates over time in their study were remarkably consistent.
“The biggest surprise to me was that, when we broke our nearly 20-year cohort into three 5- or 6-year chunks, every one of the groups had a 40% recurrence rate, within 1%. So we feel really confident that’s the right number,” he said.
Dr. Nghiem and colleagues report that, in contrast to patients with MCC, approximately 19% of patients with melanoma will have a recurrence, as will an estimated 5%-9% of patients with squamous cell carcinoma and 1%-10% of patients with basal cell carcinoma.
The fact that recurrence rates of MCC have remained stable over time despite presumed improvements in definitive therapy is disappointing, Dr. Nghiem acknowledged. He noted that it’s still unclear whether immunotherapy will have the same dramatic effect on survival rates for patients with MCC as it has for patients with malignant melanoma.
The high recurrence rates following definitive therapy for patients with early-stage disease was a novel finding, commented Shawn Demehri, MD, PhD, director of the high-risk skin cancer clinic at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston.
“When you’re looking at patients with stage I or stage II, and they have definitive surgery but still have recurrences at a higher rate than melanoma, it brings home the point that these are among the most aggressive tumors of the skin,” he said in an interview.
The high recurrence rates seen with MCC are attributable to a variety of factors.
“This is a rare cancer of mostly older individuals with a lot of comorbidities, and also a cancer that, even though it is a primary cancer, might be detected a little later than even a melanoma primary tumor, just because of the nature of the neuroendocrine tumor cells,” he said.
Dr. Demehri was not involved in the study.
Prospective cohort
The study cohort consisted of 618 patients with MCC. The median age of the patients was 69, and 227 (37%) were women. The patients were enrolled within 6 months of their diagnosis in the prospective data repository from 2003 through 2019. Of this group, 223 had a recurrence of MCC.
As noted, there was a high risk of recurrence within 1 year, ranging from 11% for patients with pathologic stage I tumors to 58% for those with stage IV disease, and 95% of all recurrences occurred within 3 years of definitive therapy.
To get a better picture of the natural history of MCC recurrence, the investigators studied a cohort of patients with pathologically confirmed MCC who were prospectively enrolled from January 2003 through April 2019 in a data repository maintained at the University of Washington.
In addition to disease stage, factors associated with increased recurrence risk in univariable analyses include immunosuppression (hazard ratio, 2.4; P < .001), male sex (HR, 1.9; P < .001), known primary lesion among patients with clinically detectable nodal disease (HR, 2.3; P = .001), and older age (HR, 1.1, P = .06 for each 10-year increase).
Of the 187 patients in the cohort who died during the study, 121 died from MCC. At 4 years after diagnosis, MCC-specific survival rates were 95% for patients with pathologic stage I, 84% with stage IIA/IIB, 80% with stage IIIA, 58% with stage IIIB, and 41% with stage IV.
Evidence supports close monitoring within the first 3 years for patients with stage I-II MCC. Local recurrence within or adjacent to the primary tumor scar was associated with a 5-year MCC-specific survival rate of 85%, compared with 88% of patients with stage I or II disease who did not have recurrences.
“Because more than 90% of MCC recurrences arise within 3 years, it is appropriate to adjust surveillance intensity accordingly. Stage- and time-specific recurrence data can assist in appropriately focusing surveillance resources on patients and time intervals in which recurrence risk is highest,” the authors wrote.
“If you’re a patient who has not had your cancer come back for 3, 4, or 5 years, you can really cut down on the intensity of your follow-up and scans,” Dr. Nghiem said.
“We do now have two excellent blood tests that are working very well, and we have really good ways to detect the cancer coming back early, and that’s important, because we have potentially curative therapies that tend to work better if you catch the cancer early,” he said.
The study was supported by the National Institutes of Health. Dr. Nghiem reported personal fees and institutional support outside the study from several companies and patents for Merkel cell therapies with the University of Washington and University of Denmark. Dr. Demehri has disclosed no relevant financial relationships.
A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.
FROM JAMA DERMATOLOGY
Dermatologists driving use of vascular lasers in the Medicare population
In addition, as a proportion of Medicare charges submitted that were reimbursed, the highest reimbursements were for dermatologists and those in the Western geographic region.
Those are among the key findings from an analysis that aimed to characterize trends in use and reimbursement patterns of vascular lasers in the Medicare-insured population.
“There are several modalities for vascular laser treatment, including the pulse dye laser, the frequency doubled KTP laser, and others,” presenting author Partik Singh, MD, MBA, said during a virtual abstract session at the annual meeting of the American Society for Dermatologic Surgery. “Laser treatment of vascular lesions may sometimes be covered by insurance, depending on the indication, but little is known about how and which clinicians are taking advantage of this covered treatment.”
Dr. Singh, a 2nd-year dermatology resident at the University of Rochester Medical Center, and coauthor Mara Weinstein Velez, MD, extracted data from the 2012-2018 Medicare Public Use File, which includes 100% fee-for-service, non–Medicare Advantage claims based on CPT codes, yet no information on patient data, clinical context, or indications. Outcomes of interest were total vascular laser claims per year, annual vascular laser claims per clinician, annual clinicians using vascular lasers, accepted reimbursements defined by the allowed charge or the submitted charge to Medicare, and clinical specialties and geographic location.
The researchers found that more than half of clinicians who used vascular lasers during the study period were dermatologists (55%), followed by general surgeons (6%), family practice/internal medicine physicians (5% each) and various others. Use of vascular lasers among all clinicians increased 10.5% annually during the study period, from 3,786 to 6,883, and was most pronounced among dermatologists, whose use increased 18.4% annually, from 1,878 to 5,182. “Nondermatologists did not have a big change in their overall utilization rate, but they did have a steady utilization of vascular lasers, roughly at almost 2,000 claims per year,” Dr. Singh said.
The researchers also observed that the use of vascular lasers on a per-clinician basis increased 7.4% annually among all clinicians during the study period, from 77.3 to 118.7. This was mostly driven by dermatologists, whose per-clinician use increased 10.4% annually, from 81.7 to 148.7. Use by nondermatologists remained about stable, with just a 0.1% increase annually, from 73.4 to 74. In addition, the number of clinicians who billed for vascular laser procedures increased 2.9% annually between 2012 and 2018, from 49 to 58. This growth was driven mostly by dermatologists, who increased their billing for vascular laser procedures by 7.2% annually, from 23 to 35 clinicians.
In other findings, dermatologists were reimbursed at 68.3% of submitted charges, compared with 59.3% of charges submitted by other clinicians (P = .0001), and reimbursement rates were greatest in the Western geographic region of the United States vs. the Northeast, Midwest, and Southern regions (73.1% vs. 50.2%, 65.4%, and 55.3%, respectively; P < .0001).
“Use of vascular lasers is increasing primarily among dermatologists, though there is steady use of these procedures by nondermatologists,” Dr. Singh concluded. “Medicare charges were more often fully reimbursed when billed by dermatologists and those in the Western U.S., perhaps suggesting a better familiarity with appropriate indications and better administrative resources for coverage of vascular laser procedures.”
After the meeting, Dr. Singh acknowledged certain limitations of the analysis, including the fact that it “was limited only to Medicare Part B fee-for-service claims, not including Medicare Advantage,” he told this news organization. “Our conclusions do not necessarily hold true for Medicaid or commercial insurers, for instance. Moreover, this dataset doesn’t provide patient-specific information, such as the indication for the procedure. Further studies are needed to characterize utilization of various lasers in not only Medicare beneficiaries, but also those with Medicaid, private insurance, and patients paying out-of-pocket. Additionally, study is also needed to explain why these differences in reimbursement hold true.”
The researchers reported having no relevant financial disclosures.
In addition, as a proportion of Medicare charges submitted that were reimbursed, the highest reimbursements were for dermatologists and those in the Western geographic region.
Those are among the key findings from an analysis that aimed to characterize trends in use and reimbursement patterns of vascular lasers in the Medicare-insured population.
“There are several modalities for vascular laser treatment, including the pulse dye laser, the frequency doubled KTP laser, and others,” presenting author Partik Singh, MD, MBA, said during a virtual abstract session at the annual meeting of the American Society for Dermatologic Surgery. “Laser treatment of vascular lesions may sometimes be covered by insurance, depending on the indication, but little is known about how and which clinicians are taking advantage of this covered treatment.”
Dr. Singh, a 2nd-year dermatology resident at the University of Rochester Medical Center, and coauthor Mara Weinstein Velez, MD, extracted data from the 2012-2018 Medicare Public Use File, which includes 100% fee-for-service, non–Medicare Advantage claims based on CPT codes, yet no information on patient data, clinical context, or indications. Outcomes of interest were total vascular laser claims per year, annual vascular laser claims per clinician, annual clinicians using vascular lasers, accepted reimbursements defined by the allowed charge or the submitted charge to Medicare, and clinical specialties and geographic location.
The researchers found that more than half of clinicians who used vascular lasers during the study period were dermatologists (55%), followed by general surgeons (6%), family practice/internal medicine physicians (5% each) and various others. Use of vascular lasers among all clinicians increased 10.5% annually during the study period, from 3,786 to 6,883, and was most pronounced among dermatologists, whose use increased 18.4% annually, from 1,878 to 5,182. “Nondermatologists did not have a big change in their overall utilization rate, but they did have a steady utilization of vascular lasers, roughly at almost 2,000 claims per year,” Dr. Singh said.
The researchers also observed that the use of vascular lasers on a per-clinician basis increased 7.4% annually among all clinicians during the study period, from 77.3 to 118.7. This was mostly driven by dermatologists, whose per-clinician use increased 10.4% annually, from 81.7 to 148.7. Use by nondermatologists remained about stable, with just a 0.1% increase annually, from 73.4 to 74. In addition, the number of clinicians who billed for vascular laser procedures increased 2.9% annually between 2012 and 2018, from 49 to 58. This growth was driven mostly by dermatologists, who increased their billing for vascular laser procedures by 7.2% annually, from 23 to 35 clinicians.
In other findings, dermatologists were reimbursed at 68.3% of submitted charges, compared with 59.3% of charges submitted by other clinicians (P = .0001), and reimbursement rates were greatest in the Western geographic region of the United States vs. the Northeast, Midwest, and Southern regions (73.1% vs. 50.2%, 65.4%, and 55.3%, respectively; P < .0001).
“Use of vascular lasers is increasing primarily among dermatologists, though there is steady use of these procedures by nondermatologists,” Dr. Singh concluded. “Medicare charges were more often fully reimbursed when billed by dermatologists and those in the Western U.S., perhaps suggesting a better familiarity with appropriate indications and better administrative resources for coverage of vascular laser procedures.”
After the meeting, Dr. Singh acknowledged certain limitations of the analysis, including the fact that it “was limited only to Medicare Part B fee-for-service claims, not including Medicare Advantage,” he told this news organization. “Our conclusions do not necessarily hold true for Medicaid or commercial insurers, for instance. Moreover, this dataset doesn’t provide patient-specific information, such as the indication for the procedure. Further studies are needed to characterize utilization of various lasers in not only Medicare beneficiaries, but also those with Medicaid, private insurance, and patients paying out-of-pocket. Additionally, study is also needed to explain why these differences in reimbursement hold true.”
The researchers reported having no relevant financial disclosures.
In addition, as a proportion of Medicare charges submitted that were reimbursed, the highest reimbursements were for dermatologists and those in the Western geographic region.
Those are among the key findings from an analysis that aimed to characterize trends in use and reimbursement patterns of vascular lasers in the Medicare-insured population.
“There are several modalities for vascular laser treatment, including the pulse dye laser, the frequency doubled KTP laser, and others,” presenting author Partik Singh, MD, MBA, said during a virtual abstract session at the annual meeting of the American Society for Dermatologic Surgery. “Laser treatment of vascular lesions may sometimes be covered by insurance, depending on the indication, but little is known about how and which clinicians are taking advantage of this covered treatment.”
Dr. Singh, a 2nd-year dermatology resident at the University of Rochester Medical Center, and coauthor Mara Weinstein Velez, MD, extracted data from the 2012-2018 Medicare Public Use File, which includes 100% fee-for-service, non–Medicare Advantage claims based on CPT codes, yet no information on patient data, clinical context, or indications. Outcomes of interest were total vascular laser claims per year, annual vascular laser claims per clinician, annual clinicians using vascular lasers, accepted reimbursements defined by the allowed charge or the submitted charge to Medicare, and clinical specialties and geographic location.
The researchers found that more than half of clinicians who used vascular lasers during the study period were dermatologists (55%), followed by general surgeons (6%), family practice/internal medicine physicians (5% each) and various others. Use of vascular lasers among all clinicians increased 10.5% annually during the study period, from 3,786 to 6,883, and was most pronounced among dermatologists, whose use increased 18.4% annually, from 1,878 to 5,182. “Nondermatologists did not have a big change in their overall utilization rate, but they did have a steady utilization of vascular lasers, roughly at almost 2,000 claims per year,” Dr. Singh said.
The researchers also observed that the use of vascular lasers on a per-clinician basis increased 7.4% annually among all clinicians during the study period, from 77.3 to 118.7. This was mostly driven by dermatologists, whose per-clinician use increased 10.4% annually, from 81.7 to 148.7. Use by nondermatologists remained about stable, with just a 0.1% increase annually, from 73.4 to 74. In addition, the number of clinicians who billed for vascular laser procedures increased 2.9% annually between 2012 and 2018, from 49 to 58. This growth was driven mostly by dermatologists, who increased their billing for vascular laser procedures by 7.2% annually, from 23 to 35 clinicians.
In other findings, dermatologists were reimbursed at 68.3% of submitted charges, compared with 59.3% of charges submitted by other clinicians (P = .0001), and reimbursement rates were greatest in the Western geographic region of the United States vs. the Northeast, Midwest, and Southern regions (73.1% vs. 50.2%, 65.4%, and 55.3%, respectively; P < .0001).
“Use of vascular lasers is increasing primarily among dermatologists, though there is steady use of these procedures by nondermatologists,” Dr. Singh concluded. “Medicare charges were more often fully reimbursed when billed by dermatologists and those in the Western U.S., perhaps suggesting a better familiarity with appropriate indications and better administrative resources for coverage of vascular laser procedures.”
After the meeting, Dr. Singh acknowledged certain limitations of the analysis, including the fact that it “was limited only to Medicare Part B fee-for-service claims, not including Medicare Advantage,” he told this news organization. “Our conclusions do not necessarily hold true for Medicaid or commercial insurers, for instance. Moreover, this dataset doesn’t provide patient-specific information, such as the indication for the procedure. Further studies are needed to characterize utilization of various lasers in not only Medicare beneficiaries, but also those with Medicaid, private insurance, and patients paying out-of-pocket. Additionally, study is also needed to explain why these differences in reimbursement hold true.”
The researchers reported having no relevant financial disclosures.
FROM ASDS 2021
Elevated mortality seen in Merkel cell patients from rural areas
This paradox was discovered in an analysis of data from the Surveillance, Epidemiology, and End Results (SEER) Program that primary author Bryan T. Carroll, MD, PhD, and colleagues presented during a virtual abstract session at the annual meeting of the American Society for Dermatologic Surgery.
“MCC is a rare and aggressive neoplasm of the skin with high mortality,” said coauthor Emma Larson, MD, a dermatology clinical research fellow at University Hospitals of Cleveland. “Previous studies have demonstrated that MCC survival is lower in low–dermatologist density areas. Associations are difficult to characterize without historical staging data aggregated from large registries. We hypothesized that decreased MCC survival is associated with rural counties.”
The researchers used 18 registries from the November 2019 SEER database to retrospectively evaluate adults who were diagnosed with MCC between 2004 and 2015 as confirmed by positive histology. Study endpoints were SEER historic stage at diagnosis and 5-year survival. MCC cases were stratified by 2013 USDA urban-rural continuum codes, which defines metropolitan counties as those with a population of 1 million or more, urban counties as those with a population of less than 1 million, and rural counties as nonmetropolitan counties not adjacent to a metropolitan area.
A total of 6,291 cases with a mean age of 75 years were included in the final analysis: 3,750 from metro areas, 2,235 from urban areas, and 306 from rural areas. A higher proportion of MCC patients from rural areas were male (69% vs. 62% from metro areas and 64% from urban areas) and white (97% vs. 95% and 96%, respectively). “This may contribute to differences in MCC care,” Dr. Larson said. “However, we also found that there is an increased incidence of locally staged disease in rural areas (51%) than in metro (44%) or urban (45%) areas (P = .02). In addition, fewer lymph node surgeries were performed in rural (50%) and urban (51%) areas than in metro areas (45%; P = .01).”
Overall survival was worse among patients in rural areas (a mean of 34 months), compared with those in urban (a mean of 41 months) and metro areas (a mean of 47 months; P = .02). “This may be due to the fact that rural counties have the higher risk factors for MCC incidence and death, but when we account for the confounders, including sex, age, race, and MCC stage, we still found a difference in overall survival in rural counties, compared to metro and urban counties,” Dr. Larson said.
Dr. Carroll, an associate professor of dermatology at University Hospitals of Cleveland, characterized the finding as “not what you’d expect with a higher incidence of local disease. Therefore, there is the potential for mis-staging in rural counties, where we did see that the interrogation of lymph nodes was done less frequently than in urban centers, which were more aligned with National Comprehensive Cancer Network guidelines during this time period. Still, after correction, rural location is still associated with a higher MCC mortality. There is a need for us to further interrogate what the causes are for this disparity in care between rural and urban centers.”
The other study authors were Dustin DeMeo and Christian Scheufele, MD. The researchers reported having no relevant financial disclosures.
This paradox was discovered in an analysis of data from the Surveillance, Epidemiology, and End Results (SEER) Program that primary author Bryan T. Carroll, MD, PhD, and colleagues presented during a virtual abstract session at the annual meeting of the American Society for Dermatologic Surgery.
“MCC is a rare and aggressive neoplasm of the skin with high mortality,” said coauthor Emma Larson, MD, a dermatology clinical research fellow at University Hospitals of Cleveland. “Previous studies have demonstrated that MCC survival is lower in low–dermatologist density areas. Associations are difficult to characterize without historical staging data aggregated from large registries. We hypothesized that decreased MCC survival is associated with rural counties.”
The researchers used 18 registries from the November 2019 SEER database to retrospectively evaluate adults who were diagnosed with MCC between 2004 and 2015 as confirmed by positive histology. Study endpoints were SEER historic stage at diagnosis and 5-year survival. MCC cases were stratified by 2013 USDA urban-rural continuum codes, which defines metropolitan counties as those with a population of 1 million or more, urban counties as those with a population of less than 1 million, and rural counties as nonmetropolitan counties not adjacent to a metropolitan area.
A total of 6,291 cases with a mean age of 75 years were included in the final analysis: 3,750 from metro areas, 2,235 from urban areas, and 306 from rural areas. A higher proportion of MCC patients from rural areas were male (69% vs. 62% from metro areas and 64% from urban areas) and white (97% vs. 95% and 96%, respectively). “This may contribute to differences in MCC care,” Dr. Larson said. “However, we also found that there is an increased incidence of locally staged disease in rural areas (51%) than in metro (44%) or urban (45%) areas (P = .02). In addition, fewer lymph node surgeries were performed in rural (50%) and urban (51%) areas than in metro areas (45%; P = .01).”
Overall survival was worse among patients in rural areas (a mean of 34 months), compared with those in urban (a mean of 41 months) and metro areas (a mean of 47 months; P = .02). “This may be due to the fact that rural counties have the higher risk factors for MCC incidence and death, but when we account for the confounders, including sex, age, race, and MCC stage, we still found a difference in overall survival in rural counties, compared to metro and urban counties,” Dr. Larson said.
Dr. Carroll, an associate professor of dermatology at University Hospitals of Cleveland, characterized the finding as “not what you’d expect with a higher incidence of local disease. Therefore, there is the potential for mis-staging in rural counties, where we did see that the interrogation of lymph nodes was done less frequently than in urban centers, which were more aligned with National Comprehensive Cancer Network guidelines during this time period. Still, after correction, rural location is still associated with a higher MCC mortality. There is a need for us to further interrogate what the causes are for this disparity in care between rural and urban centers.”
The other study authors were Dustin DeMeo and Christian Scheufele, MD. The researchers reported having no relevant financial disclosures.
This paradox was discovered in an analysis of data from the Surveillance, Epidemiology, and End Results (SEER) Program that primary author Bryan T. Carroll, MD, PhD, and colleagues presented during a virtual abstract session at the annual meeting of the American Society for Dermatologic Surgery.
“MCC is a rare and aggressive neoplasm of the skin with high mortality,” said coauthor Emma Larson, MD, a dermatology clinical research fellow at University Hospitals of Cleveland. “Previous studies have demonstrated that MCC survival is lower in low–dermatologist density areas. Associations are difficult to characterize without historical staging data aggregated from large registries. We hypothesized that decreased MCC survival is associated with rural counties.”
The researchers used 18 registries from the November 2019 SEER database to retrospectively evaluate adults who were diagnosed with MCC between 2004 and 2015 as confirmed by positive histology. Study endpoints were SEER historic stage at diagnosis and 5-year survival. MCC cases were stratified by 2013 USDA urban-rural continuum codes, which defines metropolitan counties as those with a population of 1 million or more, urban counties as those with a population of less than 1 million, and rural counties as nonmetropolitan counties not adjacent to a metropolitan area.
A total of 6,291 cases with a mean age of 75 years were included in the final analysis: 3,750 from metro areas, 2,235 from urban areas, and 306 from rural areas. A higher proportion of MCC patients from rural areas were male (69% vs. 62% from metro areas and 64% from urban areas) and white (97% vs. 95% and 96%, respectively). “This may contribute to differences in MCC care,” Dr. Larson said. “However, we also found that there is an increased incidence of locally staged disease in rural areas (51%) than in metro (44%) or urban (45%) areas (P = .02). In addition, fewer lymph node surgeries were performed in rural (50%) and urban (51%) areas than in metro areas (45%; P = .01).”
Overall survival was worse among patients in rural areas (a mean of 34 months), compared with those in urban (a mean of 41 months) and metro areas (a mean of 47 months; P = .02). “This may be due to the fact that rural counties have the higher risk factors for MCC incidence and death, but when we account for the confounders, including sex, age, race, and MCC stage, we still found a difference in overall survival in rural counties, compared to metro and urban counties,” Dr. Larson said.
Dr. Carroll, an associate professor of dermatology at University Hospitals of Cleveland, characterized the finding as “not what you’d expect with a higher incidence of local disease. Therefore, there is the potential for mis-staging in rural counties, where we did see that the interrogation of lymph nodes was done less frequently than in urban centers, which were more aligned with National Comprehensive Cancer Network guidelines during this time period. Still, after correction, rural location is still associated with a higher MCC mortality. There is a need for us to further interrogate what the causes are for this disparity in care between rural and urban centers.”
The other study authors were Dustin DeMeo and Christian Scheufele, MD. The researchers reported having no relevant financial disclosures.
FROM ASDS 2021